Giant sonic boom felt and heard in Indianapolis Indiana(meteor? mass devastation Info blocade

Originally posted by ChesterJohn
does anyone know what kind of damage could be done with a 50 gallon drum of gun powder and other drums of chemicals mixed say like sodium nitrate and MethylEthylkeytone? Could it do this type of damage if set off by a cell phone timer.

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I was thinking along these lines too, but it appears that the blast might have taken place between the two houses. I'm thinking "What If" this explosion happened in a van? Where I live people have been steeling gas from gas stations by tapping into the large storage tanks. The people who've been doing this action have been using vans.

It's just a thought.

Greenwood teacher, husband killed in southeast side explosion
The Longworth family said Dion and Jennifer Longworth, died following the explosion.

Originally posted by diesel_actual

Originally posted by Tecumte

Originally posted by diesel_actual
The Fire shortly after the explosion

I don't know, maybe it's just me, maybe too much late night ATS sites,

but the for sale sign in that pic looks like a prop for whatever reason maybe just for taking a picture. It just deosn't look like what I would expect hanging in that way outside a home in that area.

I believe the for sale sign is for the house across the street...common to see this "for sale by owner signs" here

sure,I understand, a for sale sign like that isn't unusual, just the way it seems attached to some board with dark paint like spots on it and hanging like that, probably nothing, but one wonders sometimes if photographers add a little artistic touch to pics to make them a bit more interesting.

Originally posted by BinarySamurai
Video from 1 mile away www.youtube.com...

If that video is directly and truthfully correlated with the event, that "sound" doesn't match the amount of damage.

Not in the very least, which would lead to even more questions.

Nevertheless, judging by the amount of damage, it would seem like some kind of very powerful device/explosion.

Meth labs and methane gas leaks don't seem to properly explain the evidence shown, and the palpable feeling of strangeness about this entire situation, including the frighteningly eery pictures from last night.


Scalar technology, nuclear devices, spontaneous combustion?

Who knows, and if it is something that isn't easily explained and forgotten, it will be simply explained and forgotten.

It's the deal-with-it approach that we've all grown so very accustomed too.

I think its fair to say this explosion was caused by gas.

U.S. Rep. Andre Carson, who represents the area, said he had been told a bomb or meth lab explosion had been ruled out.

source: www.newstimes.com...

An investigation was under way, said Bacon, who would not rule a gas leak in or out.

source: www.dailymail.com...

Initial reports suggested a gas leak led to the explosion but investigators said they are looking at all possibilities.

source: www.fox59.com...

Originally posted by ToadInAHole
Grass ends up scortched , the fire brigade was there pretty soon yes ,but i think their priority would be to put out the house fires , not the grass.

I doubt it spread into the roads as there is clearly a plastic "wheelie" bin and clothes in the images of the debri.

Do a few google image searches on house fires, and have a look at the grass.
Didn't find any good examples my self, but heres a one anyway:
www.theage.com.au...

Text Guys me and my friend were hunting in Rock Island Tennessee the same night this happened and seen this HUGE light streak that lasted about 6 seconds in the sky. At first we thought it was a shooting star but no, it left a long trail of orange and it was VERY bright. But after 6 seconds it seemed like it burned out because the light got super bright then went out. I think this, let's say "meteor" and this is connected. This is something bigger getting covered up.

I have no idea if it was a natural gas explosion or not. But it does sound like a house full of such a natural gas / air mix would produce a huge explosion that might be powerful enough to do this much damage or more.

reply to post by ikonoklast


The biggest mystery to me is how were only two people killed?

Not saying I am upset (that is awesome) but after seeing those pictures,, Where the heck was everybody?

Perhaps someone wanted to collect on insurance as mentioned above, If so they must have really fudged the numbers when coming up with how much gas would be needed to total the house,

Originally posted by diesel_actual
Greenwood teacher, husband killed in southeast side explosion
The Longworth family said Dion and Jennifer Longworth, died following the explosion.

Yeah but then it goes on to say -> " Family members announced a Greenwood school teacher and her husband were the two killed in an explosion on the city's southeast side. "

Faux news , what else can i say.

Originally posted by Hijinx
reply to post by akira6968

 

I would expect a different blast pattern and less fire if this was the case though.

But what, exactly, would you expect? Because you can not say with any certainty (for this argument presuming it was a drone) that:

1- It was an MQ-1, and therefore..
2- The payload it may have dropped. Which, by the way, the AGM-114 is not the only bomb the MQ-1 carries, precisely. There are variants of it, including one designed to blow # up in a way that "reaches around corners" or some crap, and really f's things up.

Also, remember the biggest fire didn't start until AFTER the explosion, according to witnesses (particularly one guy that ran into that mess to save someone). And of course we'll hear no more of it....since the witnesses are forbidden to leave or speak to any media.

Local news here wsil had a video of the gas people saying that gas leak HAS been ruled out...

So no gas leak
No meth lab
No plane crash

Report also said cars were melted......what would cause cars to melt? Would a regular fire do that?

reply to post by akira6968


That's so weird you said that...I just told my husband the same thing...after 10 pm news said gas leak was ruled out...I said.." We ' ll never hear about this story again" .....all of it has been weird.

For those of you asking for pictures of the area before the explosion - here ya go.

Going by this picture after the blast:



Here is a reduced size screenshot from bing maps (birdseye) which appears to match the angle somewhat. If you pay attention between the two photos, many of the obvious details of the homes match up.



Images aside,
Now I've gotta say, while digging into this... I found a few things that I'm not sure of, and possibly some things that have my spidey senses on high alert.

Based on the info I've read, the home that exploded was either not occupied (vacant) or the residents just weren't at home at the time. The assumed address where this originated is 8349 Fieldfare Way, but I can't be 100% sure of that.



Strangely, that comes back to one Monserrate R. Shirly. (sic) What is so strange about that you might ask? Well, I did do a little sleuthing on that name, and find references (aka's) to a Monserrate Roman / Moncy Shirley. So what?

Well, take a look at this: NASA Microbiologist.
here

If her house was the source of the explosion, then what? It could be as simple as an indoor gas leak, that ultimately went boom. I just don't see that happening without neighbors smelling it. I for one wouldn't rule out nefarious things on this case, sabotage included. After all, there is a history with microbiologists and odd deaths... just sayin'

Originally posted by Tallone

As to the force of the explosion, well it is winter, and it was 11 pm at night. People close windows and close doors to keep in the warmth, and if it was gas that means an accumulation of it that exploded. The velocity of the material would have done damage to the neighboring houses, the shock wave was immense judging from the area of damage.

Two explanations why gas would be leaking.
1. The local gas company had simply cut costs to the bone over the years. It had failed to maintain or upgrade old infrastructure in the area.
2. People may have been playing with the gas line to get more out of it, or to get it for free. Times are hard after all.

Get ready for the big investigation that whitewashes the city office and the local gas company, and pins the blame on the couple that died.

I live in Indianapolis.... The weather has been strangely nice all year.
Last night temperatures were in the low 70's. It's 65 degrees right now. The windows in our house have been open for days to let in the breeze.... People are not cranking their furnaces with windows closed right now.
In that neighborhood, you aren't going to find people trying to save a dollar by tweaking a gas line, imo.

To whomever requested source from Citizen's energy stating that there was no detection of a gas leak.
Here is the www.youtube.com...




I find it strange that the explosion went off at EXACTLY 11:10 PM


to me that implies a timed explosive more than anything else. most people here assume that it was the result of a large scale methlab.



here is a pic of the explosion showing up on Doppler weather radar

People with gas lines piped directly into their house are dumb.
Has to be the dumbest thing I can think of darwin award?

Look how distressed this lady is,
www.wishtv.com...

seems like she's in distressed or being forced to do something she doesn't want to do.

reply to post by Neopan100


The type and degree of damages is not equivalent to a standard meth lab fire/explosion.

Can someone do a quick calculation:

How much pressure does it take to blow in doors and garage doors upwards of 100 feet away? That's the kind of damage a very very large bomb would make, but the thing is, that house looks like it was obliterated. The outward explosion and effects would definitely indicate a significantly powerful explosion.

I'm guessing those other home's doors and garage doors/windows, roughly 60-100 feet away, were exposed to a blast overpressure of roughly 3 psi.

According to an article in the journal Toxicological Sciences, "Blast overpressure (BOP), also known as high energy impulse noise, is a damaging outcome of explosive detonations and firing of weapons. Exposure to BOP shock waves alone results in injury predominantly to the hollow organ systems such as auditory, respiratory, and gastrointestinal systems."

2 pounds per square inch (14 kPa)

Residential structures collapse
Brick walls destroyed
Injuries common
Fatalities may occur

"Four (4) miles away from the epicenter the blast of 1 MT Bomb, overpressure is 6 pounds per square inch."

I'm guessing the explosion was something equivalent to a bunch of C4:

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by azoth88

What does that radar mean?

Looks interesting, but what does it mean.

"According to records and Burnett, who lives across the street, Monserrate R. Shirley lives at the other destroyed home. Shirley was contacted by telephone Sunday but also declined an interview." usa today

Originally posted by Neopan100
Local news here wsil had a video of the gas people saying that gas leak HAS been ruled out...

So no gas leak
No meth lab
No plane crash

Report also said cars were melted......what would cause cars to melt? Would a regular fire do that?

Where, a couple of people have said this but no links. I've got several references saying that this was likely caused by gas.. What cars are melted? I see no melted cars in the several pictures that have come out.

Originally posted by Maskander
Look how distressed this lady is,
www.wishtv.com...

seems like she's in distressed or being forced to do something she doesn't want to do.

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of course she is distressed, her house just got F*cked up, do you know if your hownowners policy covers someelse home exploding causing damage to yours?