Giant sonic boom felt and heard in Indianapolis Indiana(meteor? mass devastation Info blocade

Originally posted by Trillium


Sorry still don't buy your long winded crap I'm wait for the real report.
Just saying

I'm not trying to sell it it, jerk.

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Say hello to mr fraud (In relation to the explosion)

Originally posted by illuminated0ne
reply to post by Tecumte

 

Just so you know, "beforeitsnews" is one of the most well known hoax news websites in existence. It is basically a blog where anyone can submit a "news" story, or just a giant hoax, and as long as it's not spam the editors would post it on the website.

A 'hoax' site you say...hmmm.. where anyone can submit a story (you mean like here on ATS, where people can post about anything , not the hoax part, lol), well, not sure the site is any more of a hoax than CNN, CBS, FAUX, etc. where Project Mockingbird tells the herd how and what to think based upon controlled press reporting. In any case though the question is still a valid one regarding whether Dion Longworth *might* have been an intentional target for whatever reason.

But like most of us early on in this thread questioned, "insurance fraud" seems extremely (the most) likely *IF* the info coming out of the controlled press is accurate and not disinfo put there to lead people away from the deeper story, and that's always a BIG IF. WE should have all learned form the 'official' 9-11 hoax reporting from the corporate press or the press psyops leadup to the Iraq war, just how much disinfo and lying the press can do whenever the controllers want to move the herd in a certain direction, always best to maintain a good deal of scepticism nowdays from info coming from most any sites news service. The "white van ' story may be real, but maybe not, seems plausible but still too early to tell for sure. It could be a white elephant instead.

Originally posted by mrnotobc
Very unlikely. For one thing there wasn't any gas leaking when the authorities got there to investigate. If it was caused by a gas leak you would have had a gas pipe blowing gas out full blast. Wasn't happening.

How do you know? Where you there when the firefighters showed up? In the event of a house fire, firefighters turn the gas off to the house. Yes, gas would be coming out of the gas pipe, but the flame would be no bigger than 1 foot high. Unless you have proof of your statement, then it is invalid.

Originally posted by mrnotobc
Also it's not going to blow the house next door into little pieces.

Oh yes it is!! Let gas leak into a closed room for 24 hours, then ignite it. It would create a blast overpressure up to 8psi which would destroy the house, and the house next to it.

Originally posted by mrnotobc
It's sounding like they've decided to use a gas leak as an excuse though, but no explanation why they didn't find a gas leak on site. Gas leak won't fly.

Again, you are not listening. It's sounding like you are misinterpreting what was said to support your beliefs. The NTSB said there was no gas leaks in the main lines leading to the house only. That is because the NTSB was only worried the main lines leading to the house's gas meter which is their jurisdiction. They HAVE NOT confirmed yet if there was a leak AFTER the house's meter, which they are still investigating.

reply to post by Tecumte


Yes, "beforeitsnews" was almost banned from ATS, and is banned on other discussion forums, because it is constantly the source of "Sorcha Faal" and other banned hoaxers like "Michael Cohen". It really is a haven for fake news... There is a reason it's called "before it's news"... because it's not real news... If you can find better sources I recommend it.

One of the problems with this being attributed to household gas buildup, is the supply line size. While a typical 3/4" residential line might feed enough gas to blow up a house, in other gas explosions approaching the magnitude seen here, the lines were more like 30". If a house was filling with gas a certain amount would escape continually (which, by the way, was not smelled by anyone here).

reply to post by sprtpilot


You should educate yourself a little about gas buildup in and around buildings that are both completely sealed and or have a vent. Natural gas is lighter than air and gets stuck in pockets in the ceilings of building, vents or no vents, it is possible for gas to build up in a house even with an open window. So your post is not only highly inaccurate, it is also misleading. Even 3/4 inch gas lines leaking for long periods of time in a somewhat vented house can cause explosions similar to and even large than what we see in Indianapolis.

www.gexcon.com...

Two in custody.

www.fox59.com...

It's not looking good...

Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry said investigators were specifically looking for information about a white van seen in the neighborhood the day of the explosion, which a source told RTV6 had been impounded at a south side motel called the Cavalier's Resort, near Thompson Road and U.S. 31, a few days after the explosion.

RTV6 confirmed that Mark Leonard, the boyfriend of Monserrate Shirley, who owned the home that exploded, worked as grounds and security manager at the facility.

Originally posted by illuminated0ne

Oh yes it is!! Let gas leak into a closed room for 24 hours, then ignite it. It would create a blast overpressure up to 8psi which would destroy the house, and the house next to it.

8 psi blast over pressure?

Pressure Effects[3]
10 pounds per square inch (69 kPa): Reinforced concrete buildings severely damaged, Severe heart and lung damage, Limbs can be blown off
4 pounds per square inch (28 kPa): Most buildings collapse except concrete buildings, Injuries universal, Fatalities occur
2 pounds per square inch (14 kPa): Residential structures collapse Brick walls destroyed Injuries common Fatalities may occur [edit]Overpressure calculation (explosive)

I'd say the blast overpressure was closer to 2-4 psi. 8 psi is on the level of a very powerful bomb. I don't believe methane inside of a house without pressurization over standard atmospheric pressure could do this, unless the mixture was enhanced with something more potent.

However, according to recent reports, it's looking like they may have intentionally let gas out into the house. For how long, who may know, but this could turn out to be a gas explosion if the conditions were hastened (aka intentional gas leak).

Originally posted by delusion
It's not looking good...

Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry said investigators were specifically looking for information about a white van seen in the neighborhood the day of the explosion, which a source told RTV6 had been impounded at a south side motel called the Cavalier's Resort, near Thompson Road and U.S. 31, a few days after the explosion.

RTV6 confirmed that Mark Leonard, the boyfriend of Monserrate Shirley, who owned the home that exploded, worked as grounds and security manager at the facility.

So Montserrate Shirley's boyfriend, Mark Leonard, is now highly suspect as a part of the cause for the incident it would seem. Perhaps he hired someone to do some dirty work?

Either way, they need to look for explosives residue inside that van. Gotta cover all bases!

so it slooking like a tempering/homocide now

around here it will always be known as the "indianapolis drone strike"

lol

deny ignorance indeed

reply to post by syrinx high priest


www.fox59.com...

Police have two people in custody for questioning following the deadly explosion on the city's south side. Officials confirmed Tuesday that gas was intentionally released into a home at the center of the investigation. The resulting explosion killed two Richmond Hill residents and injured seven others.

Looks like it may have been an intentional gas ignition.

Originally posted by illuminated0ne
reply to post by Tecumte

 

Yes, "beforeitsnews" was almost banned from ATS, and is banned on other discussion forums, because it is constantly the source of "Sorcha Faal" and other banned hoaxers like "Michael Cohen". It really is a haven for fake news... There is a reason it's called "before it's news"... because it's not real news... If you can find better sources I recommend it.

Again though and I'll just mention this, you might be right, but also (as you may know) placing a 'legit' story on Sorcha Faal like sites is a great way to get people to look in a different direction, just saying...and that old Mockingbird is smart, very smart.

Anyway, that story there at the "beforeitsnews" site simply asks the same question others here including myself were asking (and I imagine perhaps a detective or two) so that's why I linked it, the simple question was it possible if this was a homicide, could there have been any intended targets, and if so why? Not an extremely unusual question in a homicide investigation as I'm sure you realize.

But thanks for the heads up on the BIN site, I usually read most everything with a fairly cautious eye, The site seems a little bit like rense (but not nearly as sourced) with a cross of Alex Jones and perhaps God Like Prod. thrown in, I think people can find a lot of realy credible cutting up to date ideas on many alt sites but you have to tread the usual obstacles, many it seems not placed by accident. It's a jungle out there.

Originally posted by ProperlyErrant
reply to post by syrinx high priest

 

www.fox59.com...

Police have two people in custody for questioning following the deadly explosion on the city's south side. Officials confirmed Tuesday that gas was intentionally released into a home at the center of the investigation. The resulting explosion killed two Richmond Hill residents and injured seven others.

Looks like it may have been an intentional gas ignition.

edit on 20-11-2012 by ProperlyErrant because: (no reason given)

that's pure evil. I was wondering how so much gas could get in there before they smelled it. I'm a propane gas tech. I wonder how they did it. assuming they didn't want to be anywhere near the inside of that place, they may have disconnected the line at the meter, and maybe just attached a hose to it and stuffed it thru a window

evil

Originally posted by syrinx high priest

Originally posted by ProperlyErrant
reply to post by syrinx high priest

 

www.fox59.com...

Police have two people in custody for questioning following the deadly explosion on the city's south side. Officials confirmed Tuesday that gas was intentionally released into a home at the center of the investigation. The resulting explosion killed two Richmond Hill residents and injured seven others.

Here's a quote from that link:

Sources indicate to Fox59 News that the meter was in tact and data was recovered from it. The data revealed there was a surge of gas introduced into the house the day of the explosion.

Now of course in the Fox piece they were mentioning 'intentionally released' .hmmmm.. I'm not sure the two *automatically* equate, (at this point), seems premature, but perhaps they may in time be-- shown-- too.




Looks like it may have been an intentional gas ignition.

edit on 20-11-2012 by ProperlyErrant because: (no reason given)

that's pure evil. I was wondering how so much gas could get in there before they smelled it. I'm a propane gas tech. I wonder how they did it. assuming they didn't want to be anywhere near the inside of that place, they may have disconnected the line at the meter, and maybe just attached a hose to it and stuffed it thru a window

evil

Now they are looking at Bob Leonard who is the brother of Mark Leonard who is Monserrate Shirley's boyfriend. Seems they raided his trailer. This whole story is just weird! Especially lately.

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reply to post by illuminated0ne


Would you be a fireman? Maybe a gas worker?

I asked a gentleman about this situation. He was both.

I have also spoken to insurance agents.

While it is possible to have the house burn to the ground.

It is also possible for the house to detonate (not usually this level though)..

The area around the house would ONLY be burned. NOT flattened. In the gas fires he has dealt with, neighboring houses are usually damaged on the side closest the fire but still standing.

Gas leak has been ruled out.

Personally, I can rule out a faulty appliance due to multiple safeties they now have (that house was fairly new).

Its really not such a big deal if it is one of these "meteors" that have been pounding us lately....unless they are harbingers of something worse.

Louisiana, Cali, and a few other western states plus Devon England have had the exact same situations (short of a house being hit). Sky flash, big explosion, ground trembles.

Hell, it might actually have been a screw up with a drone or a bad bomb run going to the bomb range in the area. regardless, the ptb wont fess and we can only speculate.

"Gas leak has been ruled out. "

If you mean an accidental one then, yeah.

Officials: Gas intentionally released into home in south side explosion, two in custody
9:04 p.m. EST, November 20, 2012 I
Indianapolis Police have two people in custody for questioning following the deadly explosion on the city's south side. Fox59 has confirmed Bob Leonard and David Gill are being questioned by police.
Officials confirmed Tuesday that gas was intentionally released into a home at the center of the investigation. The resulting explosion killed two Richmond Hill residents and injured seven others.
Sources indicate to Fox59 News that the meter was in tact and data was recovered from it. The data revealed there was a surge of gas introduced into the house the day of the explosion.
Additionally, neighbors said they saw a white van that belonged to Mark Leonard, boyfriend of homeowner Moncy Shirley, pull up to the home the day of the explosion. Two unknown men were spotted walking quickly away from the home.
One of the men who was taken into custody Tuesday was picked up in the 4100 block of Rybolt. The other man was taken into custody at Glen Highland Heights Trailer Park on Foltz Road. Fox59 has learned police are looking for a third person to bring into custody for questioning.
Police conducted a search warrant at the home of one of the men taken in for questioning. Neighbors said police took golf clubs, gun shells and an artillery box.

www.fox59.com...

Latest News Story On Indystar

Law enforcement officials told The Indianapolis Star on Tuesday that they suspect gas was intentionally released into a Richmond Hill home before a spark caused it to explode, setting off the chain of blasts in the Southeastside subdivision that killed two people.

Authorities said the fumes seeped from a manipulated pipe or stove and gathered within the house at 8349 Fieldfare Way, until a small spark ignited it.

“The place was full of gas,” a source close to the investigation told The Star, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

A second law enforcement source told The Star that remote detonation is the leading theory now of how the Nov. 10 blast occurred, but more investigation is needed before they can be sure.

Neither source would say what evidence led them in that direction.

The law enforcement sources would not say whether authorities had zeroed in on a particular suspect but said the person had at least a rudimentary understanding of how to cause explosions.

Just passing on the latest news.

I'll leave it up to others whether to believe it or not. It does seem like the most likely scenario to me, though the intensity and effects of the explosion boggles the mind compared to other gas explosions in homes that have been referenced in this thread. It will be interesting to hear more.