Giant sonic boom felt and heard in Indianapolis Indiana(meteor? mass devastation Info blocade

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Just so you know, "beforeitsnews" is one of the most well known hoax news websites in existence. It is basically a blog where anyone can submit a "news" story, or just a giant hoax, and as long as it's not spam the editors would post it on the website.

Originally posted by Tecumte
I know it's been mentioned here before here, but seems the question is still being asked (as now a homocide investigation), was Dion Longworth possible a target by accident or intent?


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I suppose anything is possible. Stranger things have happened.

My feeling on it is the occupants of where the explosion originated-have some explaining to do.

Search warrants executed. I wonder if they're looking for any sign of the furniture that was in the house when real estate photos were taken several months ago. It would be interesting indeed if some of that furniture turned up at a different location, because that would suggest that someone emptied out the house before it mysteriously blew up.

I hope they've subpoena'd cellphone records and pings from everyone involved since the first "furnace trouble" was hinted at several weeks ago. It would be interesting to see if cell phones placed any of these people anywhere else than where they claimed to have been during times of interest.

"This was no accident, white van involved" more coming later, White van has been found and inspected...2 men walking away from the house quickly a couple of hours before explosion, getting in to white van owned by homeowners boyfriend... Neighbors interviewed tonight say, "they are not surprised"

Doesn't matter what the guy in press conference said, The Investigation was a criminal/and homicide investigation from day one, that's Standard Operating Procedure for most "accidental" death, when I found my father crushed to death by a large machine last December, it was investigated by IMPD homicide detectives as a homicide before deeming it accidental.

Home owner M.Shirley and Boyfriend had left day of explosion to go to casino in ohio, they Boarded the cat, and had a hotel room for the daughter to stay at, they didn't "plan" on being gone overnight...So why board a cat, why the hotel room?
Two men seen running for house shortly before explosion and entering white panel van owned by the boyfriend.

Just remember..Baddmove said it first..lol

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Oh Yea!

Folks,
Based on the the new revelation of this NOT being a gas leak, but now an investigation into homicide -

I'll take this time to make a humble recommendation to the staff / moderators here:

I'd like to respectfully petition the staff / moderators here to move this thread out of the "Grey Area" and into a more appropriate forum, for continued discussion. On the basis that there is clearly nothing "accidental" with this explosion at all.

JMHO.

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I bet coc aine was involved in the whole story.

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I'll second that. However, whether or not it is moved out of the gray area, I hope ATS members are active and do not let this die!

Originally posted by baddmove
Just remember..Baddmove said it first..lol

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Oh Yea!

Very good intuition there my friend!

I'll be interesting to find out what type of explosives were used. I said all along the explosion was too big to be natural gas. Plus the gas company said there wasn't a gas leak.

It it hasn't been posted:

news.yahoo.com...


I had a feeling explosives were a part of this mess. If it was a car bomb, however, those cars literally disintegrated

It's probably not worth much, but I saw a screen grab (can't link to rival forums) of a comment made on the RTV 6 website, saying one of the neighbours mentioned two men carrying out appliances the day of the explosion, I'm assuming that would be to the white van.
Anyone see any info on the state of the insurance policy and who holds it? Is the ex-husband still part-owner of the house?
They could of course still be innocent and just have circumstances against them, but to not fully explore the possibility would be a failure.

It was a bird, it was a plane, it was a explosion, it was a earthquake, it was a meteor, it was a train crash.

Best to keep our eye out for a cover up. They knew a natural gas explosion wasn't going to fly from the start. Now where will they come up with military grade explosive?

Originally posted by mrnotobc
Best to keep our eye out for a cover up. They knew a natural gas explosion wasn't going to fly from the start. Now where will they come up with military grade explosive?

I don't think they sell that at walmart.

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They still believe it was a gas explosion...

The only thing the gas company said was that there were no gas leaks leading to the house. So they were determining if the gas leak was at some point in the house and have yet to confirm or deny that.

Yes, a gas explosion CAN cause the damage you see. So you can stop saying otherwise.

Originally posted by illuminated0ne
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They still believe it was a gas explosion...

The only thing the gas company said was that there were no gas leaks leading to the house. So they were determining if the gas leak was at some point in the house and have yet to confirm or deny that.

Yes, a gas explosion CAN cause the damage you see. So you can stop saying otherwise.

edit on 20-11-2012 by illuminated0ne because: (no reason given)

Very unlikely. For one thing there wasn't any gas leaking when the authorities got there to investigate. If it was caused by a gas leak you would have had a gas pipe blowing gas out full blast. Wasn't happening. Also it's not going to blow the house next door into little pieces.

It's sounding like they've decided to use a gas leak as an excuse though, but no explanation why they didn't find a gas leak on site. Gas leak won't fly.

Originally posted by mrnotobc

Very unlikely. For one thing there wasn't any gas leaking when the authorities got there to investigate. If it was caused by a gas leak you would have had a gas pipe blowing gas out full blast. Wasn't happening.

That's a good point, but do you know this for sure? It seems common-sensical enough, but if the leak was from the appliance, when that blew, did the pipe supply have a cut off? Can you find out?

Also it's not going to blow the house next door into little pieces.

It might, you have no way of knowing this, circumstances may have just aligned perfectly for that to happen. Gas experts seem to say it's theoretically possible, just unusual for an accidental leak, and not seen before. It's a new record if it was an accidental gas leak from the one house.
Also there's no reason for explosions to be symmetrical outside of laboratory conditions, it would have been 'guided' by the structure and had a direction more one way than the other, at least in the epicenter.
If the gas was deliberately leaked to optimum levels that would make this destruction even more likely.

If you're saying cover-up, you mean the authorities are puzzled, but suspect something they don't want the public to know about, like an object from above? (because the authorities wouldn't still be investigating this much if they were the cause).

Can anyone find that doppler radar that showed the explosion and get the frames from a couple of seconds before the explosion, to check for incoming objects? That is, if doppler radar would detect and show a fast moving object, I don't know for sure.

Gas leak won't fly.

It's still totally within the realms of possibility, but when you find a reason that proves it's not, please let us know.

www.fox59.com...

...
Police, fire and insurance investigators continue their probe into the explosion that killed Jennifer and Dion Longworth, neighbors of Shirley and Leonard who lived in the Perry Township home.
Shirley and Leonard were at the Hollywood Casino in Lawrenceburg when the explosion occurred.

For the first time, Fox59 News is getting a look inside the Shirley home before the blast.
When Shirley listed her home for sale in March 2011, a real estate agent took pictures of the property and its contents.
The photos depict a tastefully and comfortably decorated two-story, four-bedroom home.
Shown in the photos are tables, chairs, couches, beds and kitchen appliances—items investigators are looking for as they comb through the debris at Shirley’s home.
A disclosure form filed with the listing and signed by Shirley indicates no problems with the home’s gas furnace, water heater or fireplace or its electric stove and oven.
Shirley first listed the home for nearly $189,000. The price dropped to $149,000 before the home was taken off the market this past spring.
The filing contains notice that, “Seller discloses that the sale of this property will require lender approval of a short sale,” which would require Shirley to put up cash to complete the deal.
A source indicates that a short sale this past summer fell through due to Shirley’s inability to provide $30,000 as part of the bargain.
...
Upon the finding of the National Transportation Safety Board that the gas lines of Citizens Energy were not to blame for the blast, Indianapolis Homeland Security Chief Gary Coons said, “Our investigators believe natural gas is involved. They are currently in the process of recovering the appliances from the destroyed homes to help determine the cause. Based on the NTSB statement, our focus is on the houses and appliances.” Investigators have also recovered the gas meter from the home. They will test it to determine if it registered an unusual spike in natural gas usage the day of the blast.

Originally posted by delusion

Originally posted by mrnotobc

Very unlikely. For one thing there wasn't any gas leaking when the authorities got there to investigate. If it was caused by a gas leak you would have had a gas pipe blowing gas out full blast. Wasn't happening.

That's a good point, but do you know this for sure? It seems common-sensical enough, but if the leak was from the appliance, when that blew, did the pipe supply have a cut off? Can you find out?

Also it's not going to blow the house next door into little pieces.

It might, you have no way of knowing this, circumstances may have just aligned perfectly for that to happen. Gas experts seem to say it's theoretically possible, just unusual for an accidental leak, and not seen before. It's a new record if it was an accidental gas leak from the one house.
Also there's no reason for explosions to be symmetrical outside of laboratory conditions, it would have been 'guided' by the structure and had a direction more one way than the other, at least in the epicenter.
If the gas was deliberately leaked to optimum levels that would make this destruction even more likely.

If you're saying cover-up, you mean the authorities are puzzled, but suspect something they don't want the public to know about, like an object from above? (because the authorities wouldn't still be investigating this much if they were the cause).

Can anyone find that doppler radar that showed the explosion and get the frames from a couple of seconds before the explosion, to check for incoming objects? That is, if doppler radar would detect and show a fast moving object, I don't know for sure.

Gas leak won't fly.

It's still totally within the realms of possibility, but when you find a reason that proves it's not, please let us know.

edit on 20-11-2012 by delusion because: (no reason given)

Sorry still don't buy your long winded crap I'm wait for the real report.
Just saying