Dr. Semir Osmanagich Regarding Pyramids Found All Over the World

Originally posted by Hanslune

Lots of little and large floods, no world wide biblical style flood

Considering the bible only covered a mass a little larger than the US, I can't really argue this point.

It is a region specific history book. Every region and its peoples' mythos has their similar flood story tied a recreation story.

Originally posted by stirling
World wide civilistaion of advANCED NATURE EXISTED =/- 17000 YRS AGO

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days.

Originally posted by zroth
reply to post by Hanslune

 

Interesting broad stroke denial. First phase of truth..Everything is false. I won't spend too much time, as you seem convicted in your reality. I do appreciate the response though and time will tell what really happened.

Carl Jung supports the flood theory in the collective subconscious of humanity's common fear of drowning.

That would suggest that trauma ect ect is recorded somewhere in DNA and passed down.

reply to post by Logarock


Most spiritual teachings suggest that the hall of records (past, present and future) are always available to well tuned antennas.

I wouldn't want to speculate though because there is no evidence to support anything beyond the 5 senses for this crowd here.

Hanslune............. Please elaborate a bit on the quote below from this post , because I am personally skeptical of this claim - Thank you.............

Nope AE culture rose to civilization in slow steps, the 'fastest' civilization was the Sumerian which went from neolithic villages to cities in the short time frame of 300+ years.

I know Sam personally, he is an extraordinary person. He is an achiever, and has long list of his accomplishments. Very nice and very intelligent as they come Sam is, and he has told me some stories I could not believe. He is so sincere in wanting you to see and understand what is out there.

Originally posted by gmonundercover
Hanslune............. Please elaborate a bit on the quote below from this post , because I am personally skeptical of this claim - Thank you.............

Nope AE culture rose to civilization in slow steps, the 'fastest' civilization was the Sumerian which went from neolithic villages to cities in the short time frame of 300+ years.

edit on 8-11-2012 by gmonundercover because: (no reason given)

I have read where the oldest royal tomb ever found was near Sumeria. The tomb was found to contain well made gold/copper alloy, harps ect. the layout is the same basic royal tomb layout found worldwide.....dead servants,horse, dog to lead them through the underworld, yet they cant account for the lack of antecedence. Theres no progression to account for the alloy for example. Very same alloy was found in Peru royal tombs. Its as if these folks showed up out of nowhere with a good all around skill set.

Hancock and Buval, hurrah!

But, having a pyramid on every continent, all about the same geological time, would mean an advanced civilization during that time period, with worldwide sailing. Modern archeology will NEVER accept that.

Therefore, it can't be true. So they say.

I do really think there was a Ancient Civilization Around that had similaritys
10,000 20 ,000 40,000 years ago ... Modern Man has been on this Earth 250,000 years

as my thread

The Comparison of the Connection of the Old & New World Similaritys
www.abovetopsecret.com...

as there is a Connection with Native American Mohawk and Vikings

& North American Cree Indian & SAMI aka Laplanders Extreme similiartys yet Oceans Apart

Maybe there is a reason for the invasion by the USA (or some black group) of ancient sites in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc... with technology that no one will admit exists.

Maybe the USA (or some black group) has been using techniques like Remote Viewing and other methods maybe more advanced to learn about these ancient technologies, how they work, their sources of power, and how to reproduce them.

Sure would make a good fiction book.

What was that saying about truth, strangeness and fiction?

reply to post by Hanslune

no 'connected global citizenship'

Agreed. The connection between all these cultures that built pyramids is... waaait for it... gravity. How high you can pile stones at what slope is directly dependent upon the force of gravity... and that force is equally applied everywhere on the globe. So yah, all these structures appear similarly constructed. Magic didn't do it, Aliens didn't do it men did it. The more powerful the ruling class, the more control they exerted over their kingdoms, the bigger and higher the pile.

And what are the biggest most prevalent piles in the world? Waaait for it... head stones, in a grave yard, in Egypt.

Thats it. Richest most powerful oppressive leaders in that era had to out do each other and build bigger and taller headstones for themselves on the backs of the people. They were full of themselves and sought to memorialize their imagined greatness and name for eternity. Bah...

They are head stones in a graveyard, thats all.

There, I just demystified the Egyptian Pyramids. Like "I Pet Goat II" did at the end of the cartoon when "sun bolts" crumbled the Pyramids.

6:27 in...

Originally posted by Logarock

Originally posted by stirling
World wide civilistaion of advANCED NATURE EXISTED =/- 17000 YRS AGO

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days.

So were Neanderthals and various other near human species

Interesting arguments. Although, the problem with many of the above responses is that many people assume by default that there is one explanation for a civilized trait, and not multiple.

Yes it is plausible that there was an ancient world-spanning sea-faring civilization of people that carried knowledge around to the populated continents, and it is also plausible that the pyramid was considered an apex design at the time, and was used by many cultures for this reason. Just as there are triangular roofed homes in America, and triangular roofed homes in Moscow, one cannot say that the design of a triangular roof was sent from American to Moscow in the early years of this country, although it is plausible just as much as the other argument.

Just my 2 cents. I like this thread but I don't like seeing answers from 1-tracked minds.

I don't think he's a fraud, i think he believes wht he thinks he sees.

But those bosnian pyramids are not pyramids, IMHO, he is wrong on that one.


QV.

Originally posted by qvision
I don't think he's a fraud, i think he believes wht he thinks he sees.

But those bosnian pyramids are not pyramids, IMHO, he is wrong on that one.


QV.

Thanks for your opinion. He has a PhD in archeology, not to mention spent the better portion of his life there for the past 5 years or so.

Do you have a PhD in archeology? Have you visited the Bosnian pyramid?

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE


Appeal to authority. There are plenty of other professors out there that say Osmanagic is wrong. What makes Osmanagic's views more valuable than their's?

Originally posted by Mary Rose
When I did a search previous to starting this thread I got threads going back to 2006 with some bad press regarding Osmanagic. The word "fraud" appears.

I don't think he's a fraud.

Then you are far too gullible.

Mark Rose refers to the following quotations from Osmanagić's book The World of the Maya, which he suggests includes "bizarre notions", such as that "the Maya and others are descended from Atlanteans who came from the Pleiades."

“ It is my theory that the Maya should be considered watchmakers of the cosmos whose mission it is to adjust the Earthly frequency and bring it into accordance with the vibrations of our Sun ... Their ancestors, the civilizations of Atlantis and Lemuria, erected the first temples on energy potent points of the Planet. Their most important function was to serve as a gateway to other worlds and dimensions."[4]

Source

And the above-mentioned article by Mark Rose in Archaeology Magazine:

But time and again the media reports say that Osmanagic has spent 15 years studying the pyramids of Latin America. What is not included in the reports is how Osmanagic interprets those structures and the cultures that built them. Had anyone bothered to investigate, they would have found rather bizarre notions in Osmanagic's book The World of the Maya (Gorgias Press, Euphrates imprint, 2005; $29.95). I had a look at the online edition of it (accessible on Osmanagic's "Alternative History" website at www.alternativnahistorija.com).

A couple of brief passages will convey the gist of Osmanagic's beliefs:

Ordinary watchmakers repair our watches and put them into accordance with Earthly time. It is my theory that the Maya should be considered watchmakers of the cosmos whose mission it is to adjust the Earthly frequency and bring it into accordance with the vibrations of our Sun. Once the Earth begins to vibrate in harmony with the Sun, information will be able to travel in both directions without limitation. And then we will be able to understand why all ancient peoples worshipped the Sun and dedicated their rituals to this. The Sun is the source of all life on this planet and the source of all information and knowledge. ...And with a frequency in harmony, the Earth will, via the Sun, be connected with the center of our Galaxy. These facts become exceptionally important when we realize that we are rapidly approaching December 2012, a date which the Maya have marked as the time of arrival of the Galactic Energy Cluster which will enlighten us.

SNIP

Many cultures around the world, from India, Sumeria, Egypt, Peru, the Indians of North and Central America, the Inca and the Maya, call themselves the "Children of the Sun" or the "children of light." Their ancestors, the civilizations of Atlantis and Lemuria, erected the first temples on energy potent point of the Planet. Their most important function was to serve as a gateway to other worlds and dimensions.

Source: Archaeology Magazine

There's much more at that page concerning this fraudster.

Harte

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by Hanslune
Lemuria never existed and we know to the day when it was made up

Swap the made up name and story of Lemuria with the myths about Mu and now we're talking....

Can you provide a legitimate "myth" about Mu?

Harte

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE

Originally posted by qvision
I don't think he's a fraud, i think he believes wht he thinks he sees.

But those bosnian pyramids are not pyramids, IMHO, he is wrong on that one.


QV.

Thanks for your opinion. He has a PhD in archeology, not to mention spent the better portion of his life there for the past 5 years or so.

Do you have a PhD in archeology? Have you visited the Bosnian pyramid?

You are misinformed.

His PhD is in Sociology and he's a retired metalworking contractor from Texas. Houston, IIRC.

Harte

The people in charge want us to believe there is only one way things evolved over the last three thousand years. This belief by us keeps them in charge, and we cannot question them because they have created a necessity for proof to challenge them. If something cannot be explained rationally with the proof they have then it is common sense to say that something else was occurring. If there is no proof yet it does not mean that it did not occur and that their theory which has proof is real. It just means that there has been no evidence found as of yet that has been applied to the theory. Evidence could be sitting in someones field and look as if it is a hundred years old. If there is an advanced race in our past, I am sure some of our technology was once theirs also.