Dr. Semir Osmanagich Regarding Pyramids Found All Over the World

Originally posted by bowtomonkey
reply to post by Harte

 

I'm still unconvinced. I would like to know more about the claims before I go ahead and assume that they were mined in South America. It seems a little odd for a man heavily involved with archeology to make a claim that takes so little proof to verify. I read he used the description "Green Jade".

I was responding to a quote from one of his books that was provided by Mary Rose.

In that quote, he made the nephrite claim.

That is, unless Mary Rose did a little editing of his words (for no reason.)

the fact you knew that the origin of gems is readily discoverable is your own in-admission. You say I was trying to find a weakness but you flatter yourself to think I care. You were acting stupid so that you could feed your ego. I'm not trying to be "right" and if you haven't noticed I have nothing to prove to you.

I've noticed that you choose to stand up for a lying scumbag, even in the face of overwhelming evidence of his lie.

Harte

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I've noticed that you choose to stand up for a lying scumbag, even in the face of overwhelming evidence of his lie.

You're right. I'm somewhat interested in why you chose to call a man you don't know a scumbag. It will add to my other curiosity, why you chose to think pyramids are worthless mounds. I wonder why you scorn the researchers as well as play down the intrigue.

You use strong language and seem quite passionate about the findings of this kind of research.

Originally posted by Mary Rose

Originally posted by bowtomonkey
He is talking about soul memory.

The memory of being killed can be in the cells.

That's not my understanding. The memory of past generations can be in the cells for certain and the etheric body will show an imprint of being killed as represented by the soul.

In this case the memory can be represented by the cells but the soul will not imprint something like the body / mind complex and the body will only read something like the body organism and so, represent it the best it can.

The etheric body should dispel the focus and I think etheric matter is more the issue. At least that's the way I think I works, but it seems that anything is possible.

At a guess, I suppose you could force a past memory into a future life by being born into your genealogy and setting up cues, (plus working behind the veil). It would take some hefty magic to enact and I'm sure that's not what you're talking about. The thought spooks me ;P

Ed. If you see my last point and you think there is any amount of deliberate action to keep the memory of being killed it already has a different meaning than the matter of dying because the issue of death has gone beyond the grave in the process.

reply to post by bowtomonkey


I'm sorry you've lost me.

My point is one thing only: The cells in the area of the body where a person was attacked can be sensitive to and "remember" the trauma from a past-life. This is probably off-topic for this thread, however.

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I was trying to suggest that the imprint on the cell is not a memory as such, or if it is, it is a genetic memory (that may seem like a past life).

reply to post by bowtomonkey


It doesn't make any sense that an imprint on the cells of a specific area of the body that received a blow of some kind would be handed down genetically because your parents and grandparents, etc., have nothing to do with your past lives.

Here are some great pictures of the Bosnian pyramids.

I honestly think that anyone who thinks these are natural formations needs glasses and/or medication.

I suggest we discuss who made them and why and ignore other posts trying to distract from these topics, especially those pursuing a debunking agenda.

Any thoughts on these questions OP?

reply to post by Mary Rose


Yes but I'm making a distinction. I don't know how certain you are of the facts but there is a difference.

The soul imprint isn't an organic memory. We have karma from past lives, yet even that isn't linear. We are newly formed and our past karma 'influences' us and our perspective. In the same way an old wound will not be the same thing. I just can't see how it can be more than a resonance, but I can ask about this if you like. I'll see a guy tonight who would know as he would be able to see and recognize the injury.

When I say it is genetic, I mean that in this case there can be passed-on cell memory. In my understanding if you are sure you have an injury that feels like something you experienced before in a past life. If you are sure and can see if the injury is not an interpretation, you are looking at genetic memory, even if it feels like a past life.

I think both are equally possible.

If it is a past life, well it's a representation, like your spleen hurts because you were knifed in the abdomen leaving you with a trust issue that is remembered in your spleen eg. The pain being a tell tale sign. Seems like a cellular memory but the memory is representation, like you've looked at a shadow of the aether which resonates into place, as you allow it to, and the soul resonance too is something familiar with the present therefore tangible, but none of it is real in our ordinary sense.

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I'm not talking about a soul imprint in general and I didn't say it was organic. This is not a discussion about the soul vs. the organism/cells/physical body.

The fact is, all the parts have the whole within them. All the physical cells are integrated with the soul and with the universe in general. Including past lives. There can be cases where it is clear from the evidence that an injury in a past life manifests in the present life. If I could remember the video or article where I learned that, I would post it, but I can't remember.

However, I don't think this is related to this thread.

Posted 12/5/12 @ 7:18 AM
Posted 12/5/12 @ 9:34 AM

I bought this book and I've come to an interesting passage.

It is in Chapter Ten "More Harmonics of Stonehenge":

In my last book, The Bridge to Infinity, I asked the question, "Who built Stonehenge and why did they build it?" . . .

In my second book, Harmonic 695, I suggested the probability that Stonehenge could have been designed as a gigantic crystal set—a massive geometric device constructed in ancient times to serve as a transmitter and receiver of signals from the heavens. . . .

Now, several years later, I have the recently completed unified tables to use in order to carry out a more comprehensive survey. . . .

At this stage I will demonstrate how Stonehenge has been placed on a geometric position which gives a very accurate correlation with the unified tables. . . .

. . . This single coordinate indicates without doubt that the stone complex was constructed on a position which harmonises with the gravitational forces of the unified fields of the Earth. How could this possibly be so, unless the construction and positioning were carried out with the help of extremely advanced mathematical and technical knowledge at the time? We are just rediscovering this knowledge which was known to our ancestors.

Originally posted by Mary Rose
I bought this book and I've come to an interesting passage.

From Chapter Eleven "The Harmonics of Rennes-le Château":

. . . It did not take me much time to discover that British and geometric measures are interlinked. The secret is hidden in the relationship between the radiius and circumference of a circle. . . .

I bought this book and I've come to an interesting passage.

From Chapter 24 "The Strange Stone Spheres":

There are still many areas of the earth's surface that have not been completely explored; particularly in the dense jungles of South America. In recent years many artifacts and ruins of ancient buildings have been discovered which, until now, have been buried under thick carpets of forest undergrowth. Indications are that an unknown civilization thrived in these regions in the distant past which had access to a high level of technology. Some of the massive stone constructions and artifacts found would be difficult, if not impossible, for modern engineers and builders to reproduce today.

One particular mystery concerns the method of production and purpose of hundreds of artificial stone balls found in the jungle and mountain areas of the central American state of Costa Rica. . . .

Originally posted by Mary Rose
I bought this book and I've come to an interesting passage.

From the Epilogue:

. . . In the past, thousands of my books were destroyed without explanation, and my work was virtually forced off the market. . . .

Sounds like what happened to Wilhelm Reich.

Very telling.

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE


I definitely agree that one must simply observe. I have to admit, though, that without the help of Dr. Osmanagich's insights I may not have figured this out by myself by observing. Just like 9-11. When I watched the towers fall, I didn't figure out for myself that I was observing controlled demolition. But listening to experts made me see the light.

Anyway, I don't know who built them. All I know, with absolute confidence, again, because I do a lot of research and I pay attention to the movers and shakers of this world who speak out, is that there has been a previous advanced civilization on planet Earth, and at this point in history, humanity is having this revealed to us. I'm praying that in my lifetime I am going to get to see the benefits of advanced technology.

Originally posted by Mary Rose
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

 

I definitely agree that one must simply observe. I have to admit, though, that without the help of Dr. Osmanagich's insights I may not have figured this out by myself by observing. Just like 9-11. When I watched the towers fall, I didn't figure out for myself that I was observing controlled demolition. But listening to experts made me see the light.

Anyway, I don't know who built them. All I know, with absolute confidence, again, because I do a lot of research and I pay attention to the movers and shakers of this world who speak out, is that there has been a previous advanced civilization on planet Earth, and at this point in history, humanity is having this revealed to us. I'm praying that in my lifetime I am going to get to see the benefits of advanced technology.

Yes, I bought into the 9/11 myth for far too many years as well. Oh well, better late than never to wake up.

Have you read or listened to the audiobook of David Wilcock's the "Point Source Investigations"? He talks greatly about many of the ancient pyramids, fascinating info, after reading this book you will never look at the world in the same way. He has been subject to a smear campaign online, and if you read the book it is obvious why - much secret, hidden info is revealed.

Peace

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

David Wilcock's the "Point Source Investigations

There's some pretty crazy stuff in there. I figure all you need is a lack of bias and you can be conscious of anything anywhere ... and understand. Plus for all the possible answers we wish we might have all we needed was the correct question.

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You're talking about The Source Field Investigations? I have that book. I was very impressed with the amount of research he put in to it.

One thing that's tricky with theorizing about physics is whether or not to build upon the work of Einstein, etc. In the book David supports what he's saying about time being affected by the energy we move through by referencing the 1971 Hafele and Keating experiment with the four atomic clocks.That conflicted with what I'd heard Eugene Mallove say in an interview: "Time dilation is not part of the universe." Also, another source I've read, Challenging Modern Physics by Al Kelly details thorough research done on that experiment and he exposes that results were falsified.

But I like David Wilcock, despite the fact that I'm amazed by his lack of humility sometimes. I think his heart is in the right place and that he has a lot of knowledge to share.

Originally posted by bowtomonkey
reply to post by Harte

 

I've noticed that you choose to stand up for a lying scumbag, even in the face of overwhelming evidence of his lie.

You're right. I'm somewhat interested in why you chose to call a man you don't know a scumbag. It will add to my other curiosity, why you chose to think pyramids are worthless mounds. I wonder why you scorn the researchers as well as play down the intrigue.

He is a lying scumbag, that's why:

. Osmanagić has claimed that the dig involved an international team of archaeologists from Australia, Austria, Ireland, Scotland and Slovenia.[6] However, many archaeologists he named have stated they had not agreed to participate and were never at the site.[7] The dig began in April 2006, and has involved reshaping the hill to make it look like a Mayan step pyramid.

Source: wiki

And:

In "Bosnian 'Pyramids' Update," which was posted on June 14, 2006, I commented on the news stories concerning geologist Aly Abd Alla Barakat, who was said to be from the Egyptian Mineral Resource Authority. According to the stories, Barakat declared that the hill was indeed a pyramid, though a "primitive" one. Was Barakat there officially? What was his expertise? The news stories said that he was "sent by Cairo" (Reuters, June 5) and that he was an "expert in pyramids" (Deutsche Presse-Agentur, June 2). Barakat, we were told, had sent his report to Zahi Hawass, secretary general of Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities, who had "recommended him to the foundation leading the excavation work" (Agence France-Presse, June 12). Taking it all together, you might believe that Barakat had been dispatched by Dr. Hawass. Could that be true?

Unable to confirm any of this, I asked Dr. Hawass directly. Concerning Barakat, he states: "Mr. Barakat, the Egyptian geologist working with Mr. Osmanagic, knows nothing about Egyptian pyramids. He was not sent by the SCA, and we do not support or concur with his statements." The supposed pyramid, Dr. Hawass says, is "evidently a natural geologic formation" and that "Apart from its general outline, this hill bears absolutely no resemblance to the Egyptian pyramids." He concludes that, "Mr. Osmanic's theories are purely hallucinations on his part, with no scientific backing."

Click here for Dr. Hawass' letter.
Meanwhile, Canadian archaeologist Chris Mundigler, whose name had been mentioned as a foreign expert scheduled to work on the "pyramid" excavation, has written to ARCHAEOLOGY, saying that he does not endorse and never agreed to work on the project.

Source: Archaeology Emag


He invited fellow fringie Robert Schoch to inspect the place. Schoch didn't report what Osmie wanted, so he trashed him
There are seven pages at that link that describe the entire episode in chronological order.

Like I said - scumbag. Lying scumbag.

Originally posted by bowtomonkey
You use strong language and seem quite passionate about the findings of this kind of research.

"This kind of research" is a fraudulent moneygrab perpetuated by an ex sheetmetal salesman from Texas. There is enough ignorance in the world. We certainly don't need people expanding on it - especially for money.

Harte

There is a new video published by BosnianPyramidsTV on YouTube: "Bosnian Pyramids Edge TV Sara Acconci and Nigel Grace":

Published on Dec 14, 2012

Alex G talks to Sara Acconci and Nigel Grace about the discovery of the Bosnian Pyramid and explain how these structures are awakening new conciousness and their relationship to evolution and the universe. Edge TV

Nigel Grace is a researcher and volunteer.

Originally posted by Mary Rose
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

 

You're talking about The Source Field Investigations? I have that book. I was very impressed with the amount of research he put in to it.

One thing that's tricky with theorizing about physics is whether or not to build upon the work of Einstein, etc. In the book David supports what he's saying about time being affected by the energy we move through by referencing the 1971 Hafele and Keating experiment with the four atomic clocks.That conflicted with what I'd heard Eugene Mallove say in an interview: "Time dilation is not part of the universe." Also, another source I've read, Challenging Modern Physics by Al Kelly details thorough research done on that experiment and he exposes that results were falsified.

But I like David Wilcock, despite the fact that I'm amazed by his lack of humility sometimes. I think his heart is in the right place and that he has a lot of knowledge to share.

Oops I botched that title, you have the correct one.

Looks like you have done your homework. I've really only been awake to all these alternatives to our current mainstream science for less than a year, so I have much catching up to do. I will check out these other references you mentioned.

However, given that it seems we know so little when it comes to the Universe, I would take absolutes such as "Time dilation is not part of the Universe" with a grain of salt.

I would agree that David Wilcock does have some ego - but as you said his heart is in the right place - and has pulled together an amazing amount of interrelated and important research.

Peace