Everyone Who Voted for Obama is a Traitor to the US

Originally posted by AuranVector
Now we are well on the way to "democratic" socialism and the death of the America I grew up in.

In Germany (I am born there) we have "democratic socialism". I guess there is also some forms of "democratic socialism" in countries such as Sweden, Norway etc.

Funny, how Germany right now is dominating entire Europe and how wonderful "democratic socialism" works in Norway, Sweden etc. I can tell you, maybe you should visit one day....but prepare for a SHOCK because compared to the hardships in the US and elsewhere, this might look like a surreal Disneyland to you.

And by the way..."democratic socialism"...while having the "oh so hated" name "socialism" in it, is nothing else than capitalism, but with SOME problematic aspects of it addressed and improved.

If you had democratic socialism such as in Norway or Sweden...you would now be the RICHEST, most powerful country on this planet without any of the problems facing America today....

YOUR problem is that you don't see democratic socialism as a chance to improve, but rather as a something negative.

reply to post by AuranVector


If we're still alive?? That really is a bit much. We have seen our fair share of really terrible and really ineffective presidents....and you know what, the USA has survived. Hate the president for all I care, trash him, call him crap if it makes you feel better, that's your opinion and your entitled to it. You however need to have some faith in America as a whole that is populated by people.... America is not the president, or congress, or supreme court. America is people, and we will overcome any collapse, and any bad president that's thrown at us. People who disrespect Americans as a nation are those who are traitorous, not those who simply cast a ballot... People like you.

Stop the hate, channel your anger and frustration for something positive and stop spewing venom everywhere.

Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by Cuervo

 

if you look back on 2008 on ATS, similar threads popped up, and just like them, this would be a history.


As a Canadian, i think this is a good thing. Oh well, at least there is LESS chance for Iran to get wiped out of face of earth, and Less chance for America to be Israel's bi**h.

I voted for McCain in 2008 because I knew Obama would be a disaster for the US. And, unfortunately, I was right.

The "doom & gloom" threads about Obama have not diminished since 2008, they have proliferated.

Now that Obama doesn't have to worry about being re-elected, he will be much freer about doing what he really wants -- none of it good for the US or its citizens.

NO ONE is elected as US president who isn't Israel's bi**h.

Originally posted by jacksmoke
reply to post by AuranVector

 

Its okay Auran, wallow in your political doom porn. Rush and Glenn will give you marching orders tomorrow.

On the other hand, maybe, just maybe you'll learn to respect other peoples opinions (even if you don't agree with them) and learn why they voted they way they did. Maybe the people you don't agree with have some knowledge or view that you haven't thought of.

Learning about different things, from different people is good, spinning yourself into a doom spiral because you are listening to the same pundits over and over and over again is bad.

Hope you feel better tomorrow

I have NEVER listened to Rush. Have not read anything from Glenn in over a year.

Enlighten me. Tell me why you voted for Obama.

Originally posted by flexy123

Originally posted by AuranVector
Now we are well on the way to "democratic" socialism and the death of the America I grew up in.

In Germany (I am born there) we have "democratic socialism". I guess there is also some forms of "democratic socialism" in countries such as Sweden, Norway etc.

Funny, how Germany right now is dominating entire Europe and how wonderful "democratic socialism" works in Norway, Sweden etc. I can tell you, maybe you should visit one day....but prepare for a SHOCK because compared to the hardships in the US and elsewhere, this might look like a surreal Disneyland to you.

And by the way..."democratic socialism"...while having the "oh so hated" name "socialism" in it, is nothing else than capitalism, but with SOME problematic aspects of it addressed and improved.

If you had democratic socialism such as in Norway or Sweden...you would now be the RICHEST, most powerful country on this planet without any of the problems facing America today....

YOUR problem is that you don't see democratic socialism as a chance to improve, but rather as a something negative.

edit on 6-11-2012 by flexy123 because: (no reason given)

edit on 6-11-2012 by flexy123 because: (no reason given)

Sorry I don't agree with you. I lived in Europe for seven years.

The US is NOT Germany or Norway or Sweden and NEVER will be even if "democratic" socialism is forced on us. There is NO comparison.

Originally posted by Osiris1953
reply to post by AuranVector

 

If we're still alive?? That really is a bit much. We have seen our fair share of really terrible and really ineffective presidents....and you know what, the USA has survived. Hate the president for all I care, trash him, call him crap if it makes you feel better, that's your opinion and your entitled to it. You however need to have some faith in America as a whole that is populated by people.... America is not the president, or congress, or supreme court. America is people, and we will overcome any collapse, and any bad president that's thrown at us. People who disrespect Americans as a nation are those who are traitorous, not those who simply cast a ballot... People like you.

Stop the hate, channel your anger and frustration for something positive and stop spewing venom everywhere.

You misunderstood my statement. When I said "if we're still alive" I am referring to us as individuals.
I may not be alive to see the next four years unfold. You may not be alive to see the next four years unfold.

As for having faith in Americans, too many Americans are clueless about what has been happening to their country. If they had a clue, they would NEVER have voted for someone as EVIL as Obama.

It's too late to stop the decline. If you chose to bury your head in the sand, you're free to do so.

Originally posted by AuranVector


Sorry I don't agree with you. I lived in Europe for seven years.

The US is NOT Germany or Norway or Sweden and NEVER will be even if "democratic" socialism is forced on us. There is NO comparison.

If you're so unhappy with the US, why didn't you stay there?

reply to post by AuranVector


My conscience is clean. If your demo voted for Obama, I'm laughing in your face come economic hardship. Tried to save your butt, so expect some good natured jibes coming your way come lay off time

reply to post by davjan4


ummm....no...Obama won popular vote

Originally posted by synnergy
I am not convinced that one person can make a real difference in this mess were in.

Wasn't completely sure what candidate was better than the other, we know who really rules.

However, I will leave you with a comment I read on an FB post.

"If any of you are voting for or supporting Mitt Romney today, I want you to go find the nearest woman, look her in the eyes and tell her, “I am voting for Mitt Romney because my tax break matters more than your healthcare and well being. I would rather save a few dollars than make sure you continue to have equal pay for the jobs you do. I do not feel guilty about stripping you of your fundamental rights.”
I want you to find the nearest gay couple and tell them, “My personal beliefs mean more to me than your lifestyle. I am perfectly okay with someone legally and forcefully divorcing you for my own selfish views.”
I want you to find the nearest orphaned child and say, “We are going to flood the adoption system and the odds of you getting adopted are going to plummet. We will not allow gay couples to adopt you, and we will cut the support budget for parents that would like to take care of you, making your adoption even more unlikely. You will probably rot in the system until your eighteenth birthday.”
I want you to find the nearest rape victim and tell them, “Your rape was a gift from God. It was meant to happen and you have no right to be upset. With my vote today, I will make sure that the man who forcefully sexually assaulted you will have parental rights over the child you are no longer allowed to abort.” and then kindly realize that your reasons for voting for that awful man are pure bull#"


There are many things at stake, but she has a point.

My God, you're serious? These are artificial "issues" promoted by the Dems to distract the clueless.

The real issues are the economy and national security, Obama's MAJOR FAILS.

This is typical crap from petty minded Obots.

reply to post by AuranVector


Okay.

1. Dow is up 65% in 4 years
2. Private sector hiring is up
3. State budgets have tightened and are more efficient.
4. Fewer state employees, also the reason why unemployment is stagnant
5. Top 500 companies have more cash on hte balance sheets the at anytime in history
6.Bin Laden is dead
7. out of Iraq
8. Out of Afghanistan in a year or 2
9.Iran reasonably contained
10. better relations with allies
11.Has not touched the issue of gun control


What I would like to see:

Glass-Stegall re-implimented, as it was originally written
Legal hemp
end to Bush era tax cuts
Increase in capital gains tax rate
Various enviromental regulations.

If you want I can sight sources, reports and other verified, peer reviewed material as to why what I lised are good things for the country.

reply to post by jacksmoke


Election's over dude. Like I said before - lookin' forward to laughing in the face of people who fared the worse the last 4 years. Good for the people who bought stocks at the lowest low though. I'll pat them on the back. People living with 15% unemployment? LOL.

I think a vote at a third party potential holds the most integrity, over a vote for a Romney you might not agree with. Withholding a vote is also noble under the circumstances, as to say the whole show is not amusing to watch, and not participating in their facade. It's maybe best moving on, not concerning much with what corrupt leaders are doing, since our outlets to sway anything of political importance seem so locked away from us. The laws of compensation usually provide us an ample helping of something else in our paths where we can make the difference. Or, the secret to patience is doing something else in the meantime (anon)...

reply to post by snusfanatic


The OP of this thread asked why I voted for Obama.

Yup, Its over, I just wanted to clarify why a 2nd term isn't the end of the world for someone who is deeply trouble by the result

Originally posted by snusfanatic
reply to post by AuranVector

 

My conscience is clean. If your demo voted for Obama, I'm laughing in your face come economic hardship. Tried to save your butt, so expect some good natured jibes coming your way come lay off time

edit on 7-11-2012 by snusfanatic because: (no reason given)

Is this post addressed to me? Did you read the OP?

reply to post by AuranVector


I proudly voted for Obama. Not just this year but 4 years ago. And '98, and 2000, and '02, and...

Not once did I make the wrong choice. He was a great State Senator for me, a great US Senator for me, and a great President for me. Just because losing has made you lose your fear-addled mind doesn't make those with a differing and educated opinion "traitors". Tone down your rhetoric, it makes you look foolish.

Originally posted by Sissel

Originally posted by AuranVector


Sorry I don't agree with you. I lived in Europe for seven years.

The US is NOT Germany or Norway or Sweden and NEVER will be even if "democratic" socialism is forced on us. There is NO comparison.

If you're so unhappy with the US, why didn't you stay there?

edit on 7-11-2012 by Sissel because: (no reason given)

This is a perfect example of how dishonest Obots twist things to their purpose.
Why would I stay in Europe? I'm an American.
I'm unhappy with the people clueless enough to vote for a man (Obama) who will destroy my country.

reply to post by jacksmoke


Oh I know it's not the end of the world. I JUST lived through 4 years of Obama. So clearly I can live through 4 more. For the people who don't though

Originally posted by jacksmoke
reply to post by AuranVector

 

Okay.

1. Dow is up 65% in 4 years
2. Private sector hiring is up
3. State budgets have tightened and are more efficient.
4. Fewer state employees, also the reason why unemployment is stagnant
5. Top 500 companies have more cash on hte balance sheets the at anytime in history
6.Bin Laden is dead
7. out of Iraq
8. Out of Afghanistan in a year or 2
9.Iran reasonably contained
10. better relations with allies
11.Has not touched the issue of gun control


What I would like to see:

Glass-Stegall re-implimented, as it was originally written
Legal hemp
end to Bush era tax cuts
Increase in capital gains tax rate
Various enviromental regulations.

If you want I can sight sources, reports and other verified, peer reviewed material as to why what I lised are good things for the country.

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. I don't happen to agree with you (Glass-Stegall maybe).
Sounds like you're swallowing the mainstream media pablum whole.

Originally posted by LuckyLucian
reply to post by AuranVector

 

I proudly voted for Obama. Not just this year but 4 years ago. And '98, and 2000, and '02, and...

Not once did I make the wrong choice. He was a great State Senator for me, a great US Senator for me, and a great President for me. Just because losing has made you lose your fear-addled mind doesn't make those with a differing and educated opinion "traitors". Tone down your rhetoric, it makes you look foolish.

My rhetoric only sounds foolish to people who do NOT understand how the US is being destroyed.

It will become clearer to all soon.