Oh God, please don't let Romney win!

reply to post by randyvs


Here let me sum it up for you:

Bush/Cheney
deregulation
military-industrial buildup
crony-capitalism
Bush Jr
torture
Devil

Romney
Mormon
rigged game
Bain Capital
Mormonism..Just creeps me out
God
big business
ruling elite
crony-capitalist
stuffed suit
cowtow
ruling elite
special interests
not even that smart
God
Bush/Cheney
pilfering
rich
greedy
Amen

The OP is a clown car of leftist buzz words. Thankfully you are in Canada and cant vote here. You would be contributing to what is wrong with America as of late.

Originally posted by schuyler
Oh, God, please don't let Obama win. If he does, the US will be destroyed as we know it. A stifling government will rip the country of its wealth and turn it into a third world backwater.

That's hyperbole, but here's the thing, you actually believe that, and that too makes a lot of us nervous, that you can be so easily swayed that Obama's a communist who represents the loss of everything the Republic stands for, it's absurd. Given what he inherited, he actually hasn't done such a bad job and now the US is poised on the cusp of a recovery and is in the process already of recovering.

How precisely did this mess happen in the first place? Anyone here ever heard of something called the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933? No I didn't think so.

why do you believe it matters who wins? You are given two "choices" where to choose but in reality they are just the same, bought and paid by corporations & military industrial complex. And when the elections are over it is business as usual.

Originally posted by 11235813213455
reply to post by randyvs

 

Here let me sum it up for you:

Bush/Cheney
deregulation
military-industrial buildup
crony-capitalism
Bush Jr
torture
Devil

Romney
Mormon
rigged game
Bain Capital
Mormonism..Just creeps me out
God
big business
ruling elite
crony-capitalist
stuffed suit
cowtow
ruling elite
special interests
not even that smart
God
Bush/Cheney
pilfering
rich
greedy
Amen

The OP is a clown car of leftist buzz words. Thankfully you are in Canada and cant vote here. You would be contributing to what is wrong with America as of late.

Actually, that was a pretty good summation, but those aren't just leftist buzzwords, but words associated with a deep and even grave concern for our friends and neighbors to the south.

I've seen other people interviewed on this question, other non-US citizens around the world, and they too express much the same sentiment, including incredulity at just how close this race really is. Do you remember when Bush/Cheney was voted in for a 2ND term of office after the first four years on the basis of the war on terror and insecurity - it's much the same thing now. We just can't believe what we're seeing and trust me, we are GLUED to the coverage and are watching very closely because this does effect the very nature and the heart and soul and character of a once beloved nation and friend.

Originally posted by schuyler
Oh, God, please don't let Obama win. If he does, the US will be destroyed as we know it. A stifling government will rip the country of its wealth and turn it into a third world backwater. Obama is such a gutless coward that it just makes me sick.

When I see this sentiment, I always wonder.....

How can Obama be both a gutless coward, and a cunning socialist slyly taking over the country? How can he be both a poor leader, and also a brilliant savvy misleader that is putting his agenda into motion right in front of our very eyes?

I mean, either is is completely inept, in which case all this blame is misplaced, or he is to blame for all this bad direction of the country, but he deserves props for taking over the government single-handedly in a single term and undoing 200 years of Democracy!

Originally posted by raivo
why do you believe it matters who wins? You are given two "choices" where to choose but in reality they are just the same, bought and paid by corporations & military industrial complex. And when the elections are over it is business as usual.

There ought to be a third party, and an alteration of the system so that third party and independants can actually mount a successful campaign, but there IS a difference here and a choice whose contrast is actually rather sharp or stark.

I realize it's the standard operating reaction/response here at ATS and at places like Alex Jones' Prison Planet to say that both parties are simply dual manifestations of precisely the very same monster, and while that may be true to an extent, it's not really true in the fullest sense. It's easy to say, but it's too simplistic, and most people realize that, I think..

We are entering into a new type of global village founded on principals of mutality and a collaborative, multilateral/multinational, enlightened mutual best interest, not a unipolar USA USA USA (chanted with fists).

Romney represents a retrograde movement by the USA straight back to the Bush Jr. days, maybe even Bush Jr. 2.0 on steroids.

Originally posted by NewAgeMan

Originally posted by Dreine
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What you said, except exactly the opposite, since I'm an American and I DO live here

Second line, and seconding the first...

Yes, but according to your avatar, you're an Imperial Trooper for the Evil Empire..

Well played sir!

However, even the Emperor is afraid of what Obama would do with another term... the Dark Side awaits.

Seriously though, Obama's record is enough for me to say that I have had enough of his particular brand of 'change' and have early voted for his opponent. I gave Obama my vote in 2008, but not this time.

Originally posted by Common Good
Just how moderate and friendly is the world today under Obama?

You want more?

You want a defeated America. An America you can roll over on.

Americans dont.

America has entirely different problems than pondering over a "defeated" America. And not one i know, in Western European countries, has an interest in a "defeated" America. I am NOT living in Tehran, just as a side-note..and I think many others don't either. What you say does not make any sense.

You brought on the # on your own account, with military spending up the wazoo and a screwed up "social system" which doesn't even deserve such a name. You defeated yourself, so to speak.

Let Romney become president, and see what will happen. You will get a "picture book" capitalist in the most negative sense, with NO SUPPORT whatsoever from other countries. The support for Romney in Europe is in the single percentage digits, as you may already know. No one will profit from a defeated America. And people all over are scared because they see you running into disaster, blind. Agreeing with the OP, it's a shame that the race (allegedly) is even so close with a small chance Romney might become president. All it's left here would be to buy TONS of popcorn and watching America go down. There is nothing funny about it, sadly.

reply to post by NewAgeMan

but there IS a difference here and a choice whose contrast is actually rather sharp or stark.

Explain it to me then. First he said his first act would be to appeal Obamacare, but then after facing some criticism, he said he would keep the good parts, but he failed to say what those were. In fact, what he will do is tweak Obamacare to be similar to what he did in PA, and then he will tout it as a victory, when really it is a failure.

He plans to cut taxes on corporations, which I agree with, but in reality he is adopting pieces of the Ryan plan, but by the time it gets through the House and Senate it will be stripped down and be similar to what we already have. Just like the Super Committee didn't work, the Ryan plan won't work either. The plan is not a big enough change, it is just a tweak, and it will be toothless before it makes it back to Romney's desk.

Please show me any major differences between the candidates.

reply to post by NewAgeMan


You want a WEAK America .. One you can control.. NO THANK YOU .. we need A STRONG America one you and ever other country are AFRAID TO SCREW WITH.. SO stay over there on your own land.. with your own health care plan...

Originally posted by darkhorserider
Please show me any major differences between the candidates.

I'll get back to you on that. RIght now I have to get back to work to keep food on the table and a roof over my head.

One thing I'll say right now is that Obama's been president and has already had the opportunity to learn from his mistakes and now's not the time to change horses midstream.

OTOH, Romney might be better at working across the isle, because as it sits the irrational hatred for all things Obama is so strong that we'll be looking at another 4 years of virtual gridlock in the house and senate.

Originally posted by hollwd
reply to post by NewAgeMan

 

You want a WEAK America .. One you can control.. NO THANK YOU .. we need A STRONG America one you and ever other country are AFRAID TO SCREW WITH.. SO stay over there on your own land.. with your own health care plan...

No that's not true. What we want is a REAL and authentic America who's self-confidence in itself has been restored, but not a mere "rah rah" bandaid incapable of healing the wound that cut deep. We want a healthy and vibrant and compassionate America, the one we USED to know prior to the 1st decade of the 21st century, a decade I like to refer to as the "oh oh's".

reply to post by NewAgeMan

One thing I'll say right now is that Obama's been president and has already had the opportunity to learn from his mistakes and now's not the time to change horses midstream.

This I agree with entirely.

As for the gridlock, I think that is the best case scenario. Gridlock means no more erosion of our liberties. I think the best thing that could happen to the American people, would be for the Congress to take 4 years off work.

In fact, if a politician ran on the platform of only repealing useless laws and preventing any new legislation from passing, I think they would win in a landslide!

Originally posted by hollwd
reply to post by NewAgeMan

 

You want a WEAK America .. One you can control.. NO THANK YOU .. we need A STRONG America one you and ever other country are AFRAID TO SCREW WITH.. SO stay over there on your own land.. with your own health care plan...

Yes, you are right. You should actually increase your military spending, since the billions already spent per month are not enough. That'll sure do it. Lol. Just funny that "an America no one wants to screw with" is not even an issue, the problem of America is not a lack of power or strength, the problem of America is its economy. But, maybe, you lived behind a rock over the last 15 years?

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
Hi, I'm a Canadian citizen so I'm not voting, ...

Hi, I'm an American so I don't care who you foreigners want as OUR POTUS.

That being said .. why you are so in LUV with Obama is beyond me. There is virtually no difference between the last two years of Bush43 and the four years of Obama. Obama has lied and lied .. He's just like any other politician.

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You would not have went to Assumption College in Massachusetts for Grad School by any chance, would you?

I knew a Canadian guy there who made a post like this about G.W. Bush too... this sounds familiar. I am not saying that all Canadians think alike, but this is too much of a coincidence.

reply to post by schuyler


Although I will not vote for him, I believe Obama will win. He has brainwashed most of the country's young people into believing that he is the best person for the job. It amazes me, because I put him right there with Bush. He spent more, and jobs are the same... so is he any better? No.

Time for plan B.

Originally posted by darkhorserider
reply to post by NewAgeMan

 

It makes no difference who wins.

If Romney wins, the black folks riot, we invade Syria and Iran, but the economy starts to recover a little bit.

If Obama wins, the economy tanks, the working folks and small business people pack up shop and apply for government benefits, but the world breathes a sigh of relief, and nobody gets bombed right away. Oh, except for Iran and Syria, because if we don't do it Israel still will.

Wow another person who listens to political rhetoric instead of denying ignorance.

Corporate profits have been up every year since Obama took office:



Many on welfare do work. However due to corporate greed their income cannot supply the basic needs.

Note the decrease in unit labor costs. In other words, while we have a jobs crisis, corporations are still pulling in dough, while not hiring and not increasing wages. The good news is profits have dramatically dropped since 2010, so maybe, finally, these corporations will have to add to payrolls to make more money.

Check out who is raking it in again on domestic profits for Q4 and thank you Jesus for more free money from operation twist. Ya got it, our lovely bailed out Banksters otherwise known as the financial sector. Of course those profits were not passed onto workers in Q4 2011.

www.economicpopulist.org...

A key to understanding this growth of income inequality—and the disappointing increases in workers’ wages and compensation and middle-class incomes—is understanding the divergence of pay and productivity. Productivity growth has risen substantially over the last few decades but the hourly compensation of the typical worker has seen much more modest growth, especially in the last 10 years or so. The gap between productivity and the compensation growth for the typical worker has been larger in the “lost decade” since the early 2000s than at any point in the post-World War II period. In contrast, productivity and the compensation of the typical worker grew in tandem over the early postwar period until the 1970s.

www.epi.org...

Others who threaten to riot:

Potok agreed with some Klan members' view that President Obama had been the Klan's most effective recruiting tool in the past four or five years.

While violence was the calling card of the old Klan, Howard repeatedly said the Klan had moved on from that tactic. Yet he and others freely talked about a looming race war if Obama was re-elected. The KKK and other groups call it "the storm."

abcnews.go.com...

I think red states have more to lose if Romney wins:

As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red States — the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut — are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill.[

Take a look at the difference between federal spending on any given state and the federal taxes received from that state. We measure the difference as a dollar amount: Federal Spending per Dollar of Federal Taxes. A figure of $1.00 means that particular state received as much as it paid in to the federal government. Anything over a dollar means the state received more than it paid; anything less than $1.00 means the state paid more in taxes than it received in services. The higher the figure, the more a given state is a welfare queen.

Of the twenty worst states, 16 are either Republican dominated or conservative states. Let's go through the top twenty.
•New Mexico: $2.03
•Mississippi: $2.02
•Alaska: $1.84
•Louisiana: $1.78
•West Virginia: $1.76
•North Dakota: $1.68
•Alabama: $1.66
•South Dakota: $1.53
•Kentucky: $1.51
•Virginia: $1.51
•Montana: $1.47
•Hawaii: $1.44
•Maine: $1.41
•Arkansas: $1.41
•Oklahoma: $1.36
•South Carolina: $1.35
•Missouri: $1.32
•Maryland: $1.30
•Tennessee: $1.27
•Idaho: $1.21

articles.businessinsider.com...


It amazes me that so many here on ATS have fallen for the same old divide and conquer. One thing you were right about. It does't matter who wins. They will serve the same agenda.

The OP should read this thread if he thinks that Obama is any different from Bush or Romney.

abovetopsecret

Originally posted by yourmaker
the only thing that can cause actual change is a forced 3rd party insurrection.

But how?