FOX Unfair and Far From Balanced.

reply to post by mahatche


none of us will ever know what networks are biased because we can't over come our own biases.....

Fifth dimension reality sort of thing, everyone can't be right if everyone is wrong.

As soon as you turn on mass media, you might as well throw out balanced and fairness out the window. Just follow the money trail, you will soon see what slant the "news" they are trying to sell to the public. Even when there isn't a political slant to their reporting, you get hype it up / get views fear porn.

Don't watch any mass media any more, usually when I turned on one of the big news channels I would get disgusted and turn it off. Lies and hype, that is all they do anymore.

reply to post by BeavX


The real trick is to not be convinced that someone elses biases are your own.

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reply to post by fripw


You question my integrity? You think I just make stuff up and post it for fun?

Look, I could really care less about the elections. They are both equally corrupt scum bags. I would eat a bullet before I voted for either one.

But, since my honesty is being questioned I have gone and found an actual computer to bring you the source.
You guys must be new to the internet, because I found it in one quick Google search.

For your viewing pleasure:
Source

But here's one of several fascinating smaller findings of the study that are kind of stunning -- even if they seem obvious and ho-hum to some of my more jaded, postmodern, aren't-we-cleverly-ironic colleagues:

ON MSNBC, the ratio of negative to positive stories on GOP candidate Mitt Romney was 71 to 3.

Here is the Pew Study that the article is referencing.

And here is an excerpt that I think some on this thread should read.

I think this is big trouble for democracy, especially the hostile level of discourse in social media. And that it's something the media need to address collectively after the election.

In the future, if I am wrong, point it out and provide proof. I have no trouble being corrected and admitting I am wrong.

But you need to provide sources of your own and not baseless accusations.

Originally posted by BeavX
reply to post by mahatche

 

none of us will ever know what networks are biased because we can't over come our own biases.....

Fifth dimension reality sort of thing, everyone can't be right if everyone is wrong.

I disagree. I lean more to the liberal side of things, but I fully acknowledge MSNBC is bias as well. Bias is easy to see when you understand what journalistic integrity should look like. I think Fox is the absolute worst propaganda in america right now, but MSNBC is also very difficult for me to watch. It makes me uncomfortable, and some hosts like Ed Shultz are every bit as aggravating as Sean Hannity. Even when I agree with the point they are trying to make, it's just such obvious propaganda that I can't take it.

I've never been a fan of the bubbles though. I think for myself, so I honestly find the constant stream of partisan hacks repeating the same hand fed talking points exhausting.

Of the channels I get I think BBC World news does the best job of presenting mostly facts with minimal opinion attached, It's bland as hell, but I think that's how news should be, more information less emotional stimulation.

Natural disasters like Sandy are usually a good way to tell if your news source is bias propaganda.

MSNBC shows a short clip of the destruction, but the entire follow up is ROMNEY WANT'S TO CUT FEMA! BUSH SUCKED AFTER 9-11! And they know Obama can be showin in a positive light so they proceed to cheerlead.

Fox shows a short clip of the destruction, then the entire follow up is OBAMA SUCKS! WHY IS CHRISTIE GIVING HIM DUE CREDIT! Then Fox takes the opportunity to raise issue with the media showing Obama in a positive light. It's their typical don't trust the rest of the media, we are the ONLY ones you can trust to give you the truuuuth!

When elections and politics are more important than the actual tragedy, it's a good chance you're listening to bias propaganda. It doesn't take "Fifth dimension reality sort of things" to see it.

unbias coverage looks more like this www.bbc.co.uk...

Originally posted by VeniVidi
I watch FOX NEWS, because their women have the shortest dresses and best legs on MSM. You just never know when they are going to switch positions in their seats.

Yep and the biggest adams apples courtesy of Ann Coulter.
That said there is no major mainstream news source that doesn't play to the ratings. Fox was just the first to come to the party and they flaunt the joke they have made out of news broadcasting. Even local newspapers have reputations catering to one side or the other on the political spectrum.

Another little irony is that because of Fox, the convservative right wing media machine is in fact owned and controlled by an australian....

reply to post by watchitburn


Don’t jump to conclusions I never questioned your integrity I asked for more information on where to find your source.

From your source.

From these outlets, PEJ researchers watched, listened or read every story in the sample and counted each assertion for whether it was positive in nature about a candidate, negative in nature or neutral. For a story to be deemed to have a distinct tone, positive or negative assertions had to outnumber the other by a factor of three to two. Any story in which that was not case was coded as mixed.

This is the part that jumped out at me.

Researchers watched, listened or read every story

Sorry if I confused anyone but this thread is meant to be about the news channel many people do not read either site. This study includes their websites. The article you sited made a mistake according to PEW it was 71 to 3%.


My argument is mainly that Fox claims they are fair and balanced and there are more people than you can imagine that take them at their word. It presents a dilemma when they claim they are not biased which as far as I can tell other stations do not claim. No one here has argued that other medias are not biased certainly not I but no other outlets claim to be fair, balanced, no spin, unbiased, or to be the only ones telling the truth.

reply to post by Grimpachi


You're right, I apologize for lumping you in with the other two.

You just asked for some type of source or link.

But it really is beyond my technological prowess to post links and such on my phone.

I can imagine quite a bit, but yes fox is undoubtedly a republican propaganda outlet, but no more so than any of the democrat biased news sources. Fox is just more blatant.

In my opinion none of them should be viewed by anyone.

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This is From 11 Years Ago Pally , Didn't You Get the MEMO , or were you Even BORN Yet >............

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No problem. No harm done.

I agree all the MSM is biased and I barely watch any of it. I certainly do not take any of them on faith.

As I posted earlier in this thread my mother is a firm believer in all that is fox. She can’t believe that they couldn’t claim to be fair and balanced if it wasn’t true so when I go to see her or talk to her on the phone I always hear about the latest propaganda they put out. There is no reasoning with her so I have an axe to grind with FOX if it is for no other reason than that.

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This is From 11 Years Ago Pally , Didn't You Get the MEMO , or were you Even BORN Yet >............

What are you talking about? Can you not understand the date? 11/02/2012

11 stands for November.

Romney wasnt even running 11 years ago.

Originally posted by Grimpachi
Can we now put this Myth to rest? Fox is far from balanced or fair in fact it is the worst offender of these practices. It has been pointed out many times but for some they need a graph which is provided here.

Some of us already know FOX may as well be called Republican Campaign Headquarters but some people are still fooled because Fox says otherwise.

For the second day in a row, Fox News devoted extensive coverage to a campaign speech by Mitt Romney, far overshadowing the coverage the network gave President Obama's campaign speech. In fact, Fox News carried Romney's entire 26-minute speech live, while it cut Obama's remarks off after just three minutes.

mediamatters.org...


For me I do not really care that they endorse one candidate over another but them perpetrating the lie that they are unbiased in this is what ticks me off at least the other stations are not trying to claim moral high ground. What is worse is that people believe the Fox lie.

Don't you think that Obummer knows that Fox supports the other guy, therefore has not spent his campaign funds on that network to get his view across ? I think you may be a bit cynical and biased against Fox to begin with. They have almost always presented BOTH SIDES of any issue, had guests from BOTH SIDES to talk about or debate the issue at hand.

If this site would allow THUMBS DOWN on posts, yours would be one I would gladly go THUMBS DOWN being biased and unfactual.

Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by Grimpachi

 

It's no news that Fox is a Republican outlet.

But it is also no surprise that the rest are Pro-Democrat outfits as well.

They do this intentionally as it drives ratings, which equals profits. And truth be told FOXNews is beating the rest hands down.

And the saying, "We report, you decide." is actually a fair statement.

It's always up to us as to what we believe.

edit on 2-11-2012 by TDawgRex because: (no reason given)

The problem is fox does not report. They editorialize. They lie. And the sheep slurp it up.

And one could say the same of: ABC, CBS, NBC/MSNBC, CNN, BBC, etc. The responsible thing to do is to sift through slants, Repub via Fox and Dem slant everyone else, and use the facts to make one's own mind up. But most people including most ATS'ers 'have a dog in the fight' and root for one of those 2 teams (Libertarian here, maybe one day some rationality comes back but I digress) and will thus defend 'their' side to the bitter end.

reply to post by Grimpachi


Phonies swarm Fox news like scam artists swarm Investorshub.com

They inside has a balance though, they cater to dumbed down conservatives though. They named the network fox for a reason. I've seen them get real a few times.

Be above the bi-partisian politics it's all bull shi

reply to post by TDawgRex


It's funny that people tout that the mainstream media has a liberal bias, when we live in a liberal economy! They aren't promoting the democrats and putting down the republicans, they are simply promoting the establishment.


People that think the mainstream media has a liberal bias may not be so happy to find out that life in America tends to have a liberal bias as well.

reply to post by Grimpachi


hmmm

where's your rant about msnbc? according to this study they're more biased than fox?
www.ijreview.com...

could this be your bias shining through????

reply to post by BeavX


Very true, cool signature, people need to drop the dualism. They're only fooling themselves.

Originally posted by f4rwest
reply to post by Grimpachi

 

hmmm

where's your rant about msnbc? according to this study they're more biased than fox?
www.ijreview.com...

could this be your bias shining through????

I addressed it 10 posts before yours did you not see?

It was also implied in the OP when I said.

For me I do not really care that they endorse one candidate over another but them perpetrating the lie that they are unbiased in this is what ticks me off at least the other stations are not trying to claim moral high ground.

I have never claimed other stations are not biased if that is what you took away from the OP you are way off.