Halloween: A Satanic Holiday

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by Egyptia
Not everyone is Christian, not every Christian agrees with our pal here, and those who resent his intrusion are quite entitled to say so.

Yes but people can convey their opinions without attacking or being insulting. We need to have consideration and be respectful. Sometimes people interpret what they read in a defensive manner, where that was never the intent of the poster as with this example.

reply to post by Egyptia


Where is your reply? I think you quoted your own reply there.

reply to post by AfterInfinity


ooooooooooops I did exactly that. Apologies.

Originally posted by Egyptia
Sometimes people interpret what they read in a defensive manner, where that was never the intent of the poster as with this example.

Ah yes, but I think his original statement was presented in an offensive manner and I took offense.

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by Egyptia
Sometimes people interpret what they read in a defensive manner, where that was never the intent of the poster as with this example.

Ah yes, but I think his original statement was presented in an offensive manner and I took offense.

hear hear... lots of people took offense because he was not being objective contrary to someone's belief.. (because said poster agrees with the primelight.. ) nor did I personally attack anyone.. in fact when quoted biblical scripture I quoted biblical scripture back.. oh tha'ts a nifty trick with that book.. you really can get it to say whatever you want it to say and furthermore I was highly offended by saying we personally attacked said dude in his "all knowing" wisdom.. should we have bowed down instead to his superior opinion? Sorry I didn't get the memo.

reply to post by Egyptia


No problem. By the way, how about a response to my response to your response to the people responding to the OP's response to Halloween?

Originally posted by PrimeLight
reply to post by jeantherapy

 

Since Satan does not now and never did exist I have to take issue with this original topic.

I could quickly research and supply links on how one can actually summon and manifest demons in ritual, these 'fairy tale' entities, and to utilise such jinn (does the word sound familiar) to even do your bidding, but I wouldn't want to feel responsible for potentially plaguing your very existence just to prove a point on an internet forum.

edit on 1-11-2012 by PrimeLight because: (no reason given)

Better yet, we could get together and you can give me first hand instructionals. Then we could get to the heart of the matter; that you've gone off your meds and life as a schizophrenic is apparently rife with demons for many sufferers.

If the Christians achieved their goal, every human on Earth would be a moronic zombie in a pew endlessly reciting meaningless incantations. This arcane ritualistic behavior certainly smacks of "cult", a word that Christians believe somehow does not apply to them. The most disturbing fact is that anyone on Earth would want to live a life that is not based on their own experiences; that would be akin to me selling another person's research as truth without attempting to verify it.

reply to post by AfterInfinity

Those are not my quotes that you used as the basis of your argument against me, but then again such fittingly reflects how out of context and distorted members consistently were in their very personal judgements/assumptions/outright lies in attack as 'rebuttal . Welcome to ats and I should expect no less, certainly no stranger to this though I never find it pleasant to witness. I post knowing there are genuine seekers here and always post for them to take or leave or just hold a seed.

I could refer to many more examples of such out of context replies within this thread, however I don't have the inclination at this point to further 'defend' against those whom care not to research the validity of postings.

reply to post by jeantherapy

And now another personal judgement that I'm a schizo. What a stellar contribution to this site, you should be proud.

May you get the reward you deserve for such erroneous judgement in a spite. That applies to all who bring shame unto themselves by lowering themselves furthermore in such 'tactics'.

reply to post by gnosticagnostic

I was highly offended by saying we personally attacked said dude in his "all knowing" wisdom.. should we have bowed down instead to his superior opinion? Sorry I didn't get the memo.

Please quote me where I even simply inferred to have 'all knowing wisdom' or implied that my knowledge makes me 'superior'? We'll get to the matter of who is judging fairly or not and which posters are completely 'flying off the handle' in their out of context replies.

Just another example of the feebleness of replies in outright desperation to attack. Sad really.

Originally posted by PrimeLight
reply to post by jeantherapy

 

And now a personal judgement that I'm a schizo. What a stellar contributions to this site, you should be proud.

May you get the reward you deserve for such erroneous judgement in a spite. That applies to all who bring shame unto themselves by lowering themselves furthermore in such 'tactics'.

Just sad that such distortion is the result of mesages sent toward the aim of warning out of Love. Whether people see that or not, in the end that was what your messages imparted.

Like you said, one cannot speak truth without offending someone. In the end there can only exist one truth afterall, but people are free to believe and walk their own path toward the discovery of that end.

This we know and acknowledge with respect but that doesn't mean that we in turn must withhold in fear of offending on account of that acknowledement. In this way we share our truth.................like everyone else here. People are free to take it or leave it without resorting to attacking one another.

I just wish people would not be so cruel with one another. Never any justification for that behaviour. Ever. I'm very sorry about that.

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck

those who resent his intrusion are quite entitled to say so.

Apologies for my "intrusion" here...comes across like you're an ATS cop fit to determine who is 'worthy' of entry into a thread.

FYI, there are also terms and conditions for this medium and personal attacks are nothing short of harassment and/or bullying and should not be encouraged by members of any 'civil' society . This behavior is what absolutely degrades the quality of this site and many other forums worldwide.

There is no escaping the fact, though, that there are those who allow themselves to be robbed of all earthly delight and joy in the name of their faith. It mystifies me how they then profess their 'humility' while talking down to others. Funny, too, how intent they are on inflicting themselves upon others, even eschewing good manners when their 'sharing' is politely rebuffed.

P.S--Your comment about me being "politely rebuffed" was most amusing. We must have been reading different threads, either that or your bias was so strong against me that it rendered you utterly blind to the facts in front of you. I 'defend' in the quotable truth, whilst you attack with very obvious lies and that's the difference between you and I.

Where also did I profess to be humble?...please quote me on that while I wait... oh that's right, you plucked that out of thin air also with zero basis in actual fact. I'm sure though you've got some more tricks left in your bag good sir, you and the others in attack here who seem to feed off eachother's lies one after another. Beyond sad, just pitiful. I could go on with other baseless examples of posting though I really didn't want to feed all that negativity delivered (outright lies) that I have already.

reply to post by gnosticagnostic

And yes for what it's worth, I did realise your intent towards me with that Scripture based post delivered It was still most highly relevant to these times though, so the thanks were sincerely in order.

nor did I personally attack anyone

Hehe, and in the very same sentence after you wrote those words you did personally attack me, placing words in my mouth to boot. I don't expect you to admit any folly of course, you (and the others exposed in lies already) are likely far too proud to consider such and will possibly be far too busy pointing fingers at me with some more added distortions to your list. The creative writing here is excellent though *cough*.

I will add to the Biblical wisdom's below to describe these times and those in heart who adhere and align in abundance with the demonic 'Helloween' realms....though bah the masses say, "I don't see such entities in front of me, so they *mustn't* be real, utterly delusional to believe such nonsense!"..........Now I take it by that so called 'logic', bacteria mustn't exist either crawling all over us... Oh but that's right, science gave us a microscope so the collective flock can now all say aaaah yes, we can all agree one is not crazy for suggesting such a thing invisible to the naked eye *collective pats on the back*. What a funny (as well as utterly ignorant) lot we can be at times, for the carnal senses can deceive plenty. Now go forth and celebrate in adherence, the reverence to such entities, your day of the dead, void of Life in Christ and His kingdom, the polar opposite frequency.



Matthew 24:12 ...'And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.'

2 Timothy 3:1-5 ...'This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.'

Daniel 12:4 ...'even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.'

In latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons." 1 Timothy 4:1

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. But you be watchful in all things..." 2 Timothy 4:2-5

And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12

"And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken." Luke 21:25-26

Matthew 24:14 ...'And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.'

Matthew 24:9-10 ...'Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.'

And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them? I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?” Luke 18:7-8

Matthew 24:13 ...'But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.'

reply to post by jeantherapy

If the Christians achieved their goal, every human on Earth would be a moronic zombie in a pew endlessly reciting meaningless incantations. This arcane ritualistic behavior certainly smacks of "cult", a word that Christians believe somehow does not apply to them. The most disturbing fact is that anyone on Earth would want to live a life that is not based on their own experiences; that would be akin to me selling another person's research as truth without attempting to verify it.

So you are now claiming as fact that NONE of the faithful in Christ have had personal validations in revelation via personal experiences (that supports their walk in Christ)?

I hope you're just trolling again with that, surely you can't be serious??

Matthew 6:33
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

You gotta earn your 'verifications' with diligent sincere seeking with yearning in faith, aspiring to live in Good Spirit all the while (not harming others willfully). I posted earlier on Outreach that seemed to go over everybody's head and just as likely this will So be it.

Originally posted by PrimeLight
Apologies for my "intrusion" here...comes across like you're an ATS cop fit to determine who is 'worthy' of entry into a thread.

No, merely commenting upon what you have been posting. I did trash a point-by point rebuttal of your post in favour of one all encompassing fact. You base your entire premise upon your 'quotable truth'. I assume you mean your Bible. Congratulations upon finding your own moral compass, but please don't assume that others agree that this is an objective argument. More importantly, grow up and realise that most others take offense in being judged on the basis of your belief. I think there's actually a line in your 'good book' about that.

Upshot? You can reduce Hallowe'en to a satanic holiday if you wish, but allow me the courtesy of saying that's a crock. However, I'd still have given you a bag of Doritos if you'd come to my door.

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck

No, merely commenting upon what you have been posting. I did trash a point-by point rebuttal of your post in favour of one all encompassing fact. You base your entire premise upon your 'quotable truth'. I assume you mean your Bible.

No, actually the "quotable truth" I was referring to was the baseless responses on these pages made by other posters such as yourself that placed their own 'spin' on my motives, intentions and messages.

I see you continue though in proud denials after I clearly outed your statements for the lies they are. You couldn't produce those quotes of mine supporting your accusations could you now?? Um yeah, that's because they don't exist and you know it. I have little respect for blatant and proud liars...and you dared to judge me as 'smug'??

Congratulations upon finding your own moral compass, but please don't assume that others agree that this is an objective argument. More importantly, grow up and realise that most others take offense in being judged on the basis of your belief. I think there's actually a line in your 'good book' about that. Upshot? You can reduce Hallowe'en to a satanic holiday if you wish, but allow me the courtesy of saying that's a crock.

Good on you, never had a problem with that. Try actually reading and comprehending my early reference here implying 'take it or leave it'.

In truth, we are all allowed to judge the errors of sinful thought and deed for correction and teaching, though NOT to condemn the person. You should take a leaf out of that Good Book book to correct yourself in that department EVIDENCED by your postings of lies and PERSONAL judgements against me here. Take that advice or leave it.

reply to post by PrimeLight
I know that all of my comments were both reasonable and truthful. You maintain the same of yours. Neither of us are about to change our stance and this thread is a discussion on whether or not Hallowe'en is a satanic holiday. You'll note that I keep trying to bring that back. We're gonna have to agree to disagree because I will not derail the thread further by dissecting nuance...so that ends it for me.

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck

I know that all of my comments were both reasonable and truthful.

The post history shows you lied about me in what you proclaimed without merit and the truth stands no matter what you try and justify in your distortions yet again.

and this thread is a discussion on whether or not Hallowe'en is a satanic holiday. You'll note that I keep trying to bring that back.

Those who make personal judgements to attack (like yourself) 'serve' to derail this thread in an ungraceful manner---and there was plenty of that allowed, so I will in turn allow myself to now uproot liars that dare take such a route against me. I let the rot go on for long enough, though it didn't cease and here we are now in cause and effect.

reply to post by PrimeLight

The post history shows you lied about me in what you proclaimed without merit and the truth stands no matter what you try and justify in your distortions yet again.

Those who make personal judgements to attack (like yourself) 'serve' to derail this thread in an ungraceful manner---and there was plenty of that allowed, so I will in turn allow myself to now uproot liars that dare take such a route against me. I let the rot go on for long enough, though it didn't cease and here we are now in cause and effect.

You can stop right there. Pot, meet kettle.

reply to post by AfterInfinity


Excerpt from above response to the incredibly ignorant OP, whose author is berating another for 'attacks' and 'lies':

If you dressed up for Halloween, you are supporting the evil spiritual forces and the devil himself, as well as rejecting Jesus

I encourage you to reject this pagan, satanic holiday!

I would advise you recant your hypocrital allegations and false indignation. According to the above links, as compared to your retorts, I believe you should have nothing further to say in this thread.

Unless you like sleeping in the really deep hole you've dug for yourself.