CNBC Exec’s Children Murdered; 1 Day After CNBC Reports $43 Trillion Bankster Lawsuit

Is the nanny still in a coma? What does she have to say on all of this?

Originally posted by MotherMayEye
And I have also read that she found the nanny with her neck already slit. Seems very convenient that the nanny slit her own throat in front of the mother confirming she was the one behind the murders.

Earlier in the day, there were NYPD reports of a hostage situation at the Krim address involving 2 adults and three children.

This list goes from newest to oldest:
U/D Manhattan *Hostage Situation + Multiple People stabbed* 57 W-75th st. 3 Adults Stabbed & 2 Children Stabbed Both Are in Traumatic Arrest

25 Oct

U/D Manhattan *Hostage Situation + Multiple People stabbed* 57 W-75th st. Perp is in custody. With Self stabbed wound canceling the Level 1

25 Oct

U/D Manhattan *Hostage Situation + Multiple People stabbed* 57 W-75th st. #NYPD Request Multiple #EMS buses on a rush Total 5 ppl

25 Oct

U/D Manhattan *Hostage Situation + Multiple People stabbed* 57 W-75th st. #NYPD Reports Perp stabbed Him self And 4 other people

25 Oct

Manhattan *Hostage Situation* 57 W-75th st the Perp Holding A Female Adult & 3 Kids Level 1 Mobilization called in regards

25 Oct


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edit on 28-10-2012 by MotherMayEye because: fixed typo

There are times when the public deserves an explanation on errors such as this. Why did the NYPD call in a hostage situation involving 5 people, many times, when they later claim an entirely different version of events?

Title : Market Watch still runs story of $43 trillion lawsuit against US banks after CNBC erases their version following murder of CNBC executive's children

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by babybunnies
Is this becoming the bankster's MO now?

NOW!?!?!

They assassinated the God Damned President of the United States!!!
These are the people with the real power because they are the people with the real money.
It has always been this way.
It WILL always be this way.

They idea that somehow, some guy who makes a $400,000 per year salary is THE MOST POWERFUL MAN ON THE PLANET is laughable.

"He has his finger on "the button" you say???

That's like saying that I am powerful because I have my finger on the button of my remote for my T.V.
Yes, and I don't dare actually push it until I am told to by the one with the real power.

I love you honey.


Seriously, these people weild more power than we could possibly imagine.
They LITERALLY control the planet.

Originally posted by NJoyZ
Benjamin Fulford had mentioned a really big lawsuit like this was going down a few months ago. I wonder if this is the same one.

Benjamin Fulford is an actor, a creation and plaything of a certain 'rock-a-man'. Benjamin Fulford appears in youtube videos with an apparent sniffing problem, as if he has substance abuse problems. Therefore he immediately becomes discredited. This 'rock-a-man' created his vast fortune by deception, he has not stopped. The guy is a psychopath.

How do you tell the truth to people but make sure they will not believe it? Wrap the truth in a preposterous lie, so no one will believe.

i think the wife did it, lol she walks into to see the nanny slice her own throat, runs past her, sees kids in bath tub full of blood , runs back to ask nanny theres something wrong with kids? wtf that doesnt make any sense at all. she killed them for life insurance, so her favorite would get all the money, best schools, inheritance. nah i dont know but that story sounds aweful fishy for sure.

Such a tragedy - but a fascinating case to say the least. I stumbled upon this blog entry that holds some more information:

She took a screen cap of the article when it was still online


One commenter posts a PDF file on the court case:
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Another poster points out the inconsistency in the reporting of the NY Times:

10/25/12 the new york times reports: When Ms. Krim returned around 5:30 p.m., the commissioner said, she found a dark apartment. She went back down to the lobby to ask the doorman if he had seen the nanny and her children. When told that they had not left the building, she returned to the apartment. She looked around in the quiet rooms. Finally, she turned the lights on in the bathroom — and discovered her two children in the bathtub and the nanny unconscious on the floor.

www.nytimes.com...

10/26/12 the new york times reported: On Thursday evening around 5:30, Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly said, Marina Krim returned to her Upper West Side apartment with her 3-year-old daughter to discover her two other children, a 2-year-old boy and a 6-year-old girl, dead of knife wounds in the bathtub and Ms. Ortega slashing herself with the same bloodied kitchen knife used on the children.

www.nytimes.com...

Yet another comment made the hair on my neck stand up:

Charlotte Friedman, a retiree that lived in the building and was most likely the LAST person to see the children alive had started a thread at a crime sleuthing website BEFORE any of the reports were hitting main stream. She rode in the ELEVATOR with the children and her nanny and had spoken w/ Lulu about her dancing.

If you go to this thread and begin reading on this page: www.websleuths.com... you'll notice that when the first pictures of the nanny were hitting the web, she INSISTED that this was NOT the Nanny!

She insists that the nanny had a much fuller face, and was much older, and didn't look anything like the pictures that had been released of the supposed nanny. She said the lady on the gurney in the pictures was the nanny, not the one in the previous pictures. I noticed also that the lady in the gurney has naturally curly/wavy hair, and the tan skinned nanny that has been pictured as being the nanny by the press not only has straight hair, but is much smaller and darker.

I tried to check out the link but it said I have to sign up. I am curious though..

Wow...I remember when the thread for this article popped up here on ATS I was stunned...and now they have scrubbed it and then this case pops up...coincidence?? I think not. Amazing that this entire story is not more publicized! I mean it's the biggest lawsuit of ALL time! 43 trillion! It should be on every news station everywhere....

In addition, upon searching for 'Krim' on the CNBC website, some more peculiar things come to light. There are 6 results, the first 4 are relevant:



Result 1: CNBC Reports Krim Family Tragedy

Kevin Krim, a member of the CNBC family has suffered an incomprehensible loss. In a statement to staff members, CNBC President Mark Hoffman said, "There are no words to convey the magnitude of this tragedy." CNBC's Carl Quintanilla reports.

Page contains a video player that supposedly should show a CNBC report on the Krim tragedy. The video will not load. I checked multiple other videos and everything works fine on my computer. But this video seems to have vanished.


Result 2: Police hope to interview New York nanny in children stabbing

NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York police on Friday are hoping to interview the critically wounded nanny suspected of stabbing to death two children of a CNBC television executive in the family's luxury Manhattan apartment, a police official said

This is from the description in the search results. The actual page has been deleted and if you visit the link, you get a 'Page not found' error and you are kindly requested to hit the back button.


Result 3: Statement on Krim Family Tragedy

it is with profound sadness that we report news of one of our own. yesterday in new york city the family of kevin krim our head of digital operations was the victim of an incomprehensible crime. two of his children tragically and also sadly died. in a statement to the staff cnbc president mark hoffman said, there is simply no words to convey the magnitude of this tragedy. what we can do is come together to express our unwavering support for a friend in need. all of us at cnbc and at nbc universal will be there for kevin, marina and their family. we ask that you our viewers keep his family in your hearts as we do we, his friends and colleagues here at cnbc.

The accompanying video however, will not load.


Result 4: Comcast and NBCUniversal Press Statement Regarding The Krim Family

Comcast and NBCUniversal Press Statement Regarding The Krim Family:

A member of the CNBC family has suffered an unimaginable loss. The sadness that we all feel for Kevin, Marina and their family is without measure. Our thoughts, prayers and unwavering support are with them all.

Brian L. Roberts, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Comcast Corporation Stephen B. Burke, Chief Executive Officer, NBCUniversal Mark Hoffman, Chief Executive Officer and President, CNBC

And once again the video that is embedded on the page seems to have been deleted from the servers or rendered inactive in some other way.

reply to post by UltraMarine


Some time ago I predicted that the banksters, and low-life wall street tycoons families would be murdered. By murdering the families the retribution would be sweet to those who feel this is their only resolution available.

Likewise those in power around the world, Not the obvious rulers, presidents, kings, etc, but the puppeteers behind the curtain, would also feel the wrath of a very angry world population.

Has it begun? I don't know.

Do I know of anything behind the scenes? Nope! I just occasionally predict such things and they happen. Usually a long time in the future.

My guess is that it will almost always be someone known to the family. A friend, a chauffeur, a cook, a gardener, maybe even a distant family member. The banksters the tycoons and even the rulers of the world will never be able to trust anyone. They will have their wealth, but always with the sword of Damocles hanging above.

Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
Ruh Oh!!!

Major Banks, Governmental Officials and Their Comrade Capitalists Targets of Spire Law Group, LLP's Racketeering and Money Laundering Lawsuit Seeking Return of $43 Trillion to the United States Treasury

finance.yahoo.com...

Thanks for the link. It checks out along with the company website.

so if someone starts a thread about this on the internet

and lives to tell the story

debunked ?

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
so if someone starts a thread about this on the internet

and lives to tell the story

debunked ?

So you really think the Nanny went crazy and stabbed the kids and then slit her throat? You honestly believe that?

Update:

Nanny out of coma, on breathing tube

Cops have yet to question Ortega, who was out of a medically induced coma Saturday but is still breathing with help of a tube, police said.

It seems there will be some closure to this story after all. She'll tell the tale.

Originally posted by Enlightenme1111
Update:

Nanny out of coma, on breathing tube

Cops have yet to question Ortega, who was out of a medically induced coma Saturday but is still breathing with help of a tube, police said.

It seems there will be some closure to this story after all. She'll tell the tale.

She may tell a tale, and it may even be the truth. But, who knows if the public will ever hear it.

This is indeed a tragic event. Any time a child dies, for any reason, it is a tragedy in my view. Very saddening.

On the matter of this topic specifically though, some questions:

1) What is the hypothesized motive on the part of the bankers? Simple revenge seems unlikely because the executive and his news organization, as well as the story itself and the case, still exist. So the motive would then become, "to send a message." Which leads to another question...

2) How would he know who was sending the message? All he knows is that his nanny snapped and murdered his two children. Why would he suspect anyone else's involvement? Why would he specifically link the tragedy to the banking case, or his network's reporting of it? So if "sending a message" was the motive, the message hasn't exactly been conveyed, has it? Which leaves, "shaking him up so badly as to preoccupy him" as the motive. But...

3) Why would they go to this much trouble simply to distract the man? Why not simply poison him, fabricate false charges against him, outright kill him directly, or generate legal trouble for his company? If we are to believe they have the power to brainwash a woman who reportedly loved these children into murdering them all just to distract a businessman from running his news corporation, then we must also believe they are more than capable of these other measures. But moreover...

4) Why would they target him rather than the investigators, attorneys, or even individual reporters more closely associated with and directly responsible for the report and the case? Are they not much more of a direct threat to them than this man, several times removed, from the case? The only remaining possibility I can fathom is that the message was not intended for him, but for others. "Cross us, and even your families aren't safe. We know this won't change anything, but it may prevent you from taking similar measures in the future." But again...

5) Why not go after those more intimately involved with and responsible for the case instead? Because his family would be higher profile and the message would be more widely circulated? That's the only reason I can conceive of for such a conspiracy, in light of all the other factors.

However...

6) How would the intended targets of the message know who "they" were? From their perspective, a nanny killed those children... not some shadowy group of elites and bankers with the power to brainwash her into doing so. Unless some secret communique to both he and other corporate heads somehow accompanied these tragic events, how could they ensure their message was effectively sent, and that this wouldn't simply be seen as the tragic act of a disturbed or otherwise ill woman?

The most logical and rational speculation in my opinion - in the absence of evidence to the contrary at least - is that that's all it was. We must carefully consider all of the known variables and possibilities in cases such as this, and examine them rationally, skeptically, and deductively. And if the hypothesis of a conspiracy doesn't make logical sense, then in the absence of any compelling evidence to that effect, we cannot and must not assume that a conspiracy was at work in my view, simply because it's more interesting or might give some semblance of meaning to such a horrific act. This does not mean that it wasn't. Merely that we refrain from assumptions not borne out by evidence, until such evidence exists.

As always, I could be wrong.

Peace.

reply to post by AceWombat04


Three hours before these murders were reported, there were NYPD reports of a HOSTAGE SITUATION at the Krim's address involving at least two adults and three children.

Personally, I don't believe what we are being told now. I am only speculating, but if there was a hostage situation, it sounds like one child may have been spared and her life used as a threat to the mother to keep her mouth shut to everyone except her husband.

reply to post by MotherMayEye


Interesting and if true, certainly suspect. But again, what does this do to eliminate the case or the reporting of it? I'm not so much questioning the suspicious nature of these events, as I am the speculated motive on the part of the bankers. Did they simply want to terrify him into directing his news organization not to report on it? But they've already reported on it, as have multiple other news outlets. It's in the public domain. And the case itself still exists. So what would be the motive?

It seems possible that in the absence of other evidence, the killings (and hostage scenario, if it actually happened as reported) were, if associated with some manner of conspiracy or strange machination, unrelated to the banking case. I just don't see what the motive would be other than simple revenge, and if that was the motive, then it leads to all the other questions in my initial post. It just doesn't add up in my opinion.

But again, I could be wrong. Peace.

reply to post by AceWombat04


I agree with you. I don't find the lawsuit story too compelling as motive. Seems more coincidence than motive at this point. I can't imagine what is behind these murders, but they are very suspicious.

Why would a hostage situation ever be called in if the mother found the children already dead and the nanny after or while she was stabbing herself? And there were five updates to these reports with all of them stating there was a hostage situation.

reply to post by AceWombat04


Seems like a case of strong revenge against the media network that FIRST AIRED the pending lawsuit of $43 trillion against "the bankers"(a bit cliche?). People have been known to kill others for much less than that so really I don't see why so many people are having a hang up believing in this conspiracy. How can it be a coincidence when everything adds up so perfectly?

A hostage situation reported from the SAME exact place earlier, cnbc that aired the lawsuit the day before, then cnbc took the lawsuit of their database. Common on, even a rookie detective can see the day light here. The other media firms are airing the lawsuit because the damage has already been done, and if all the media outlets pulled the plug, then everyone would be sure of a conspiracy. This is the last thread of plausibility that is keeping everone guessing.