'If four Americans get killed, it's not OPTIMAL': Obama's extraordinary response to Comedy Centr

reply to post by gwynnhwyfar


I don't know what you think I was talking about, but that's what I was talking about. When you don't respond to an attack on a US Embassy for about 10 hours (which I believe it was about that long before he bothered), and then you give misleading statements and focus on how wrong a film is, versus how wrong what happened is, and then 2 weeks later you're still pushing out horsecrap lines about film when everybody knows it was a terrorist attack...

your response is an abysmal failure. And let's get the WHOLE quote in. He followed with...


'We’re going to fix it. All of it. And what happens, during the course of a presidency, is that the government is a big operation and any given time something screws up."

So...in totally failing at response to an attack on US sovereign soil and the death of 4 Americans, it reduces to "not optimal" and a "screw up".

It's Howdy-doody time, folks...no big deal. We just kind of screwed it up a little...wasn't optimal.

It was an abysmal failure that he STILL hasn't been honest about and STILL has not responded properly concerning. So the abysmal failure continues because he's a narcissistic egomaniacal psychopath that can't say "WE handled this totally wrong. WE won't be this way again. WE are trying to make sure WE know everything WE failed at, so that WE don't do it again."

He won't ever. Instead, he has his camp say - oh piffle, it's Romney's fault. He politicized it.

WTF? Romney's not the President douche bag Barry...you are. He can't make you act this much of a loser, can he? If he can...game over, he's more effective than you.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by VonDoomen

 

Oh, I know race is a factor for a lot of the anti-obama crowd. Every one has varying feelings on other races, based on their own personal opinions. And since they craft our worldview, they tend to come through in our actions, even if we won't admit to it. But if stereotypes weren't true to at least some extent, not only would most comedians have no material, but I would be able to dance.

Actually race is a factor for the pro Obama crowd as well,
and that card has been played so many times it has lost its initial sting, in fact I believe it is one of the reason people want him out of office.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by VonDoomen

 

Oh, I know race is a factor for a lot of the anti-obama crowd. Every one has varying feelings on other races, based on their own personal opinions. And since they craft our worldview, they tend to come through in our actions, even if we won't admit to it. But if stereotypes weren't true to at least some extent, not only would most comedians have no material, but I would be able to dance.

Actually race is a factor for the pro Obama crowd as well,
and that card has been played so many times it has lost its initial sting, in fact I believe it is one of the reason people want him out of office.

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Yea...i omitted just for context. There are prejudiced people all over the world. It is a natural human state.

Of course, also natural for humans is controlling behaviors spurned by irrational thought. So controlling your prejudices and doing honor to other humans is also a natural human state.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


It has served them well, the race card, I was never so shocked in my life the first time of many times I was called a racist, it is a way to shut people up, they would rather remain silent then be accused of racism.

Me, I am to bullheaded to shut up.

I thoroughly enjoyed the show last night. Not as funny as our other black president, Herman Cain, but still very enjoyable.

The only criticism I would give, as an Obama supporter, is I wanted him to be more candid and run with jokes in a less "safe" way.

Still a lot of fun though.

BTW, Killing Americans is NOT optimal. Not sure why there is a discussion about this. Is the right that scared?

reply to post by Agit8dChop


Obama, Bush and most if not all of congress, are traitors to the United States Constitution.
Bush is gone (should be in jail), but Obama is/has continued to violate the United States Constitution.

Now for an opinion, anyone that supports Obama, or any traitor to the US, is no better and is (in my opinion ) a traitor to the US as well. Some argue it's a fact.

if Obama breathes people use it as a reason to hate him

I dislike him, not because he "breathes", but because he is a anti-American traitor.

Wow a another thread trying to turn nothing into something. The partisan insanity continues. Goes along just great with this one.

Tagg Romney Wanted to Punch Obama at the Debate

The BHO administration is definitely NOT ---> Adj. 1. optimal - most desirable possible under a restriction expressed or implied; "an optimum return on capital"; "optimal concentration of a drug"............optimal implies the very best of something: Now lets go to its antonym, which most aptly applies to the BHO administration - least worthy, worst, least beneficial .............most UNFIT

Originally posted by VonDoomen
reply to post by elouina

 

ok.

What about the millions of deaths under the bush presidency? You right wingers are so quick to forget his disasterous presidency. Yet for some reason you want that style of presidency back.

This isn't about Bush this is about Romney. Just like this is about Obama and not Carter. People are not little robots driven by their party. The party is a way into the presidency. That have to be affiliated with one of two major parties to get there. If not, then they can forget about being elected. I assure you that not one single presidential candidate agrees with a particular parties policies 100%. This is what makes each president unique. His own opinions, and his own style. And I would hope for most intelligent voters, that their registered party is just on their card because it has to be.

This brings up the importance of a third party. I think if we had a fully recognized third party we would see much more interesting presidential races. Since we would no longer have just the drastic right or drastic left.

Originally posted by KeliOnyx
Wow a another thread trying to turn nothing into something. The partisan insanity continues. Goes along just great with this one.

Yea right - tell his grieving mother that..................

'My son is not very optimal - he is very dead':

Mother of diplomat killed in Benghazi attack slams Obama's comment on raid - HERE President told Jon Stewart, 'If four Americans get killed, it's not optimal'
Remarks sparked massive backlash from conservatives on social media
Mother of slain diplomat Sean Smith says Obama was 'disrespectful'


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The mother of an American diplomat killed during a terrorist raid on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi has hit out at Barack Obama for describing the attack as 'not optimal', saying: 'My son is not very optimal - he is also very dead.'

During an interview shown on Comedy Central, Obama responded to a question about his administration's confused communication after the assault by saying: 'If four Americans get killed, it’s not optimal.'

Speaking exclusively to MailOnline today, Pat Smith, whose son Sean died in the raid, said: 'It was a disrespectful thing to say and I don't think it's right.

'How can you say somebody being killed is not very optimal? I don't think the President has the right idea of the English language.'

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edit on 19-10-2012 by Vitruvian because: correct

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by VonDoomen

 

Oh, I know race is a factor for a lot of the anti-obama crowd. Every one has varying feelings on other races, based on their own personal opinions. And since they craft our worldview, they tend to come through in our actions, even if we won't admit to it. But if stereotypes weren't true to at least some extent, not only would most comedians have no material, but I would be able to dance.

Race was not a factor when the white folks helped vote him into office. Obviously since he got there in the first place. And it will not be a factor when people vote him out. Folks just realized that he just did not do as great a job as we expected. All Obama the person really is, is a great talker. All words and no action. So it is time to move on and give someone else a chance to improve things here in the US. But what I am personally seeing in my area is many black people not abandoning ship when they should be. They want him in office no matter what, because of race. Now this is just what I am seeing in my area, and I am not certain about elsewhere. But it really isn't right.

If people want to get past this white and black issue, both sides have to work on it. Elect the better person regardless of race!

Originally posted by elouina

Race was not a factor when the white folks helped vote him into office. And it will not be when we vote him out.

For some it was. People like to feel like they have some kind of moral high ground. There are some "white folks" who voted for Obama for the exact same reason that some people drive a Prius: to get that fix for their smug ego. And those are the same morons who will call me racist because I don't support Obama. To them it isn't the policies that should be up for debate, but rather his skin color.

I am going to tell you, for every blanket statement that someone makes in this thread, or any political thread, I can point out a dozen exceptions.

Originally posted by 3chainz
It isn't optimal if Americans get killed.

What is your point? Do you not know what the word optimal means or something? You think Americans getting killed is a good thing?

op·ti·mal
adjective ˈäp-tə-məl
Definition of OPTIMAL
: most desirable or satisfactory : optimum

I'll translate it for you;

Obama; It is a bad thing when Americans get killed.

edit on 19-10-2012 by 3chainz because: (no reason given)

edit on 19-10-2012 by 3chainz because: (no reason given)

It seems like you should get it.

Obama didn't say 'It is a bad thing when Americans get killed.'

If you want a better translation, he said, ' It is not the best possible outcome when Americans get killed.'

No kidding, Mr Obama?

Maybe people would rather hear him call it what it is, a tragedy.

reply to post by Hawking


Fox puts CNN and MSNBC to shame. CNN and MSNBC act like state media, it's disgusting. At least Fox has some bi-partisan to it and blast both candidates some what. At least you get to hear both pictures from Democrats and Republicans on Fox.

My son is not very optimal - he is very dead': Mother of diplomat killed in Benghazi attack slams Obama's comment on raid

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...< br />

The mother of an American diplomat killed during a terrorist raid on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi has hit out at Barack Obama for describing the attack as 'not optimal', saying: 'My son is not very optimal - he is also very dead.'

During an interview shown on Comedy Central, Obama responded to a question about his administration's confused communication after the assault by saying: 'If four Americans get killed, it’s not optimal.'

Speaking exclusively to MailOnline today, Pat Smith, whose son Sean died in the raid, said: 'It was a disrespectful thing to say and I don't think it's right.

'How can you say somebody being killed is not very optimal? I don't think the President has the right idea of the English language.'

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...< br /> Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Well obviously this poor women was not happy and I guess she has more right than any of us to,
have,
an,
opinion,
on the matter.

Speaking from her home in San Diego, Mrs Smith, 72, continued: 'It's insensitive to say my son is not very optimal - he is also very dead. I've not been "optimal" since he died and the past few weeks have been pure hell.

'I am still waiting for the truth to come out and I still want to know the truth. I'm finally starting to get some answers but I won't give up.

'There's a lot of stupid things that have been said about my son and what happened and this is another one of them.'

www.politico.com...

I wonder if it would've been more "optimal" to have the ambassador kidnapped/held hostage....
I wonder if it went wrong and he was killed...
I wonder if Obama was wanting/influencing/hoping for a iran hostage crisis-esque chance to be the President he thinks will get him reelected.

I wonder if that even matters...

Anyway, I thought Obama presented himself well on the Daily Show, and I think Jon Stewart asked questions that won't be asked again until after the election. However, I don't think Obama's answers were satisfactory. Just going off memory JS asked about the surveillance state and Obama replied that he had worked to modify the existing laws to make them less invasive or more oversight or something to that effect. Not once did NDAA come up. The MSM sure as hell isn't going to ask about it. Ugh. so frustrating.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

Originally posted by elouina

Race was not a factor when the white folks helped vote him into office. And it will not be when we vote him out.

For some it was. People like to feel like they have some kind of moral high ground. There are some "white folks" who voted for Obama for the exact same reason that some people drive a Prius: to get that fix for their smug ego. And those are the same morons who will call me racist because I don't support Obama. To them it isn't the policies that should be up for debate, but rather his skin color.

I am going to tell you, for every blanket statement that someone makes in this thread, or any political thread, I can point out a dozen exceptions.

I don't feel it had anything to do with a moral high ground. Honestly, many folks were driven by Obamas way with words. He gave us hope for a better tomorrow. But tomorrow arrived and our hope was quashed. We realized that he just had a way with words. Sort of like a preacher. But words by themself do not change the world.

I think it is terrible that people are calling you racist because you aren't voting for Obama. Why can't some people grow up and get past their prejudice? It has to end somewhere and it won't if they keep dragging it up.

Originally posted by MsAphrodite
as a result of his own incompetence is disgusting.

Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by Agit8dChop

 

What rock have you been living under? Google is your friend.
link

Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by Agit8dChop

 

Sorry I did not bother to read the source, I just took the first one of a google search that apparently you were unable to do for yourself. Here you go:
google search
Take your pick.

Cherry picking, yes. Taking out of context, yes. Making grandious assumptions, yes. And here is why:

In attempting to throw the 'other side' under a bus what becomes apparent is an example of incompetence by not vetting an article that was meant to prove your point. If you wish for optimal results I would think that would be paramount, because in using 'the first one of a google search' you have done yourself a grave disservice here.

First of all, as another poster pointed out and I checked as well, almost all of the links you provided in your 2nd search all ultimately link back to a blog post, not exactly the best source of 'proof' there but OK. I might even be willing to give some leeway here if it were not the article you posted first.

Here is the cherry picking, taking out of context, grandious assumption part. If you link something it is under the presumption that what is linked is meant to show in some way your support for one view point or another, right? OK, taking that and running with it, here is what your first linked google search article that you grabbed and ran with says at the end:

Some say we cannot kill every Islamist. How do we know until we try? Yes we can, yes we should, and yes we absolutely must obliterate Islamofascists from this earth. Collateral damage is unfortunate, but must not be a deterrent ever again.

The future of civilization is at stake.

It's time for the Christian world to feast on bacon wrapped Islamist hors d'oeuvres. As for the Jews, we don't have to eat the bacon, but we should certainly help the Christians shove it down the Islamists' throats.

Now I would hope that you do not believe in full scale slaughter of people for no reason other than their religious beliefs. I would hope you would be outraged if this were to actually come to pass. I know I would and you don't seem to be a GOP supporter with blood feuds on your mind. But you made no disclaimer that there was only a section of that article that was meant to prove your point so the assumption is that you read the whole thing and supported it's view point even though later you state you did not read it after all. But the damage there has already been done.

See how easy it is to cherry pick, twist the context and then make stupid assumptions? Don't get me wrong, both sides in this are just as guilty as the other. What I am asking here is for it to stop. Let's all stop believing in the manufactured outrage from both sides of this dog and pony show, shall we? Let's all start thinking for ourselves because in all honesty once we buy into that manufactured outrage, what follows is emotional reactions to things that are now seen as fact based on assumptions, leaving the actual issues to linger in nowhereville unadressed and unresolved.

reply to post by MsAphrodite


I'm with you sister. Remember right after it happened he referred to it as "a bump in the road"? He makes me sick.. In all seriousness, it would be OPTIMAL if his speech writers were shot!

very poor choice of wording by the president whichever way you try to spin it .. had romney said this, liberals would be unleashing on him and saying he doesn't care about anyone etc etc ..

optimal is not a proper word when referring to his murdered ambassador and four other murdered american citizens .. it's a tragic and very sad event .. optimal sounds cold and callous .. very poorly articulated by the president of the united states.. even the mother of one of those killed is slamming him .. obama's having a very bad sept/oct


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