BREAKING: Plot to Blow Up NY Federal Reserve Foiled

(sighs as he throws the book about screening for terrorists BEFORE they get here in the trash)

So much for that waste of printing and paper. Seems we're 2 for 2 on screw ups between the Detroit airline bomber and this idiot.

So... Let me make sure I have this. This mental midget from Bangladesh arrives in January. Apparently, he doesn't know anyone, despite his words..because he's entirely successful in meeting an FBI agent or asset the first time out! Hell...I probably couldn't find a cop if I were being murdered on a busy public street....how do these guys find FBI of all things so easily anyway?

So... He meets the FBI right away (since he's the only one who got tagged..it's reasonable to assume he didn't have NON-FBI partners or terrorists).. The the FBI supplies him with everything he needs to make his hairbrained schemes come to life in a Federal conviction. Wow.... What hard work. It must be tough to FORM a terrorist cell, staff the WHOLE THING except the one guy who isn't in on the joke and keep it all running realistic.


.....Of course, if the FBI wasn't out handing idiots all the stuff to make their wild ideas reality, I'll just bet wild ideas are all this crap would become. He didn't know diddly or he wouldn't have ASSEMBLED (as it states) the bomb, detonator and prepared it for deployment, without ever NOTICING nothing worked and the main ingredient wasn't the real deal. Oh...and 1,000 pounds? I'll just ask this. Has anyone here actually walked the outside of a Federal Reserve Bank building and looked at it? I protested the one in St Louis and I've seen the one in New York in great detail. He might as well have been throwing firecrackers at a concrete bunker.

The only blow this idiot was going to accomplish was blowing the eardrums out for everyone within a block or two by the echoes of the blast alone. The damned Fed would probably only close for a couple hours on clean up.

reply to post by Skywatcher2011

What are your thoughts

The U.S. Consulate in Bengal obviously failed to identify a threat when "someone" (we'll probably never know who that someone is) gave this dude a student visa.

I'd like to know how long this dude was in the United States before the FBI identified him as a potential terror suspect.

I'd like to know why the FBI, DOJ, and State Dept. didn't just boot him out of the country when it was understood that he intended to do harm. To me that would have been the most sensible response.

I discourage blind obedience to institutional mindsets. If you (not the author of the OP... I hope) happen to work for the FBI, NYPD, DOJ, State Dept. et al. then I encourage you to drink some clean water and ask yourself if all the effort outlined in this narrative (www.cnn.com...) is what you believe in, or if it is just something you go along with because ...

Originally posted by CALGARIAN

THERE WE GO AGAIN! You're Godd*mn own American police force and bureau entrapping these people.
ALL of these crazies wouldn't have been able to even start the first step without being ployed into it.

This is gross.

edit on 17-10-2012 by CALGARIAN because: (no reason given)

While you may think we are entrapping innocent misguided foreigners, the truth may be that this whole story is bogus and made up to push an agenda. This "terrorist" is nothing more than a B list actor paid overtime.

Originally posted by dazbog

Originally posted by ProfessorT
I fail to see why members are questioning this fantastic work that the FBI have managed to carry out and complete. They have saved potentially hundreds of lives, America's main financial building and foiled a terrorist attack. Unless people have proof that there was some sort of conspiracy behind this please stop boring people. I don't see how this is a "false flag". If I was an American citizen I would be immensely proud of the security services for the work they achieved during this operation.

If this isn't sarcasm then I have this AMAZING investment opportunity. Through a resent law suit filed against the State of N.Y. I have been given exclusive rights to sell shares in the Brooklyn Bridge. But you must act now !!!!!!!!! The toll booths will be up and running by Dec.

Yes Yes I wan't 5000 shares and when they go up I want to buy ProfessorT the Charles Darwin award for failure in the gene pool.

He said he was doing this on behalf of Al Qaeda in a written statement given to the agent?... As a requirement for getting the explosives? Perhaps?

Did he have any real connections to Al Qaeda? Probably not if he had to go through an agent to get explosive and was the sole executor of the plan... meaning he was working with no one but the agent or they would have been helping.

That means he was recruited to Al Qaeda as part of the sting? BY THE AGENT?

Talk about home grown terrorism, the FBI might be OPENLY recruiting people to Al Qaeda now.

Ok, to be more straightforward in what I'm saying... in order for them to develop enough trust and acquire such a statement, this agent likely let on like he was a complete terrorist and talked up the whole issue... regardless of whose plan it was. To say "if I can trust you, you'll prove it by coming up with your own plan" is even technically fostering plans of terrorism. Undercovers use the tactic all the time to prove they are "down"... how else are they going to earn trust? This guy trusted him to the point where he thought he was a source for explosives.

How did he pull that off without claiming to be with Al Qaeda and recruiting the guy?

Ok,so now what if the guy wasn't ready yet... but the agent who he never found out was really an agent inspired him, because you know they talked about all this stuff.... and then he made no move right then, did not get arrested yet went on LATER to rehash those terrorist network thoughts again and really did something.

In other words, consider now, how many people DIDN'T bite the bait but are impressionable to getting amped up about this to an agent? ,,, and are now just walking around on the street.

You understand what I'm saying? It's ok for the FBI to evangelize terrorism in order to find potential terrorists but it is still supporting terrorism!

any tool at their disposal... I wonder what all they did to this guy to hype him, because their whole mission was to get him to bite. You know it was... this agent was not just like a guy in a parking lot selling keychains and then walking away.

I think this is seriously messed up.

Bummer Had he gotten away with it I say give a medal and citizenship. If there is one place in this country that deserves bombing it's that den of thieves.

I do believe our government has warned us of the NUMEROUS sleeper cells currently in America. I have no idea way this fellow would need to seek recruits for his evil plot ? Maybe they were actually sleeping and missed the call to arms. Or maybe it's all BS. Considering the FBI's involvement in all such foiled alleged plots I opt for the latter. As a well educated American, I am torn between pity and shame toward the dullards who buy this utter nonsense.

Originally posted by tinhattribunal

The man was arrested as part of a string operation conducted by the FBI and NYPD as part of the Joint Terrorism Task Force

a 'string operation', huh?

that indicates that he's just somebody's puppet!

Nah, I think they meant "string him along" kind of operation.

reply to post by dazbog

I believe it may all be BeeEss myself,but I have become very distrustfull of anything that I do not see with my own eyes.

This smart fella once saidon't believe anything you hear,and only half of what you see....

Run through the world deaf and half blind,like so many of us do,just look out the window...

And we spend so many hours a day in front of a TV or computer,which spew the mental meanderings of people with too much time,and too much money,who would want nothing more than to share their nonsense meanderings with us......And then have us pay them for it...

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah...

Just throwing this in here people but is the timing of this just a little suspicious? Just before an election? When will people grow up and see that this is all just manipulation? Whatever you think of Alex Jones it does'nt matter because he's right about society being dumbed down. Next they will say a dancing bear had explosives hidden in his pelt and wanted to blow up congress, then all of society will DEMAND that they launch a mission to blow up DANCING BEAR LAND.

Why Al CIA da again?

You'd think they'd try to set up a Patriot group or a militia of some sort this time around.

It would have been the perfect October Surprise. OKC redux.

Originally posted by waltdisney

Originally posted by CALGARIAN

THERE WE GO AGAIN! You're Godd*mn own American police force and bureau entrapping these people.
ALL of these crazies wouldn't have been able to even start the first step without being ployed into it.

This is gross.

edit on 17-10-2012 by CALGARIAN because: (no reason given)

While you may think we are entrapping innocent misguided foreigners, the truth may be that this whole story is bogus and made up to push an agenda. This "terrorist" is nothing more than a B list actor paid overtime.

That's how I see it also. After giving his "undercover FBI statement" of complaint, John Neas doesn't sign it nor is there a Magistrate Judge signature.
Therefore, it could be completely false.

CONCLUSION

WHEREFORE, your deponent respectfully requests that the

defendant REZWANUL NAFIS be dealt with according to law.

_______________________________
JOHN NEAS
Special Agent
Federal Bureau of Investigation

Sworn to before me this
___ day of October, 2012

______________________________
UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE
EASTERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK

(Taken from the link to his statement.)

It seems that this story is just another empty headline story on the heels of another FED story about how "misunderstood" and valuable an institution it is.
(From Huff Post article)
It seems like blantant psy-op build-up to continue the FED and rehab it's reputation by having us believe that if Al-Queda hates it, it must be good, sort of rot.
I do believe it's lease and powers are up at the end of this year. Is this a sympathy ploy to re-up for another 99 years?

Originally posted by dazbog
I do believe our government has warned us of the NUMEROUS sleeper cells currently in America. I have no idea way this fellow would need to seek recruits for his evil plot ? Maybe they were actually sleeping and missed the call to arms. Or maybe it's all BS. Considering the FBI's involvement in all such foiled alleged plots I opt for the latter. As a well educated American, I am torn between pity and shame toward the dullards who buy this utter nonsense.

other recruits raises the likelihood the mission will be a success "there is strength in numbers"

if he had none and the agent was one of his only connections, then unless the agent was recruiting him to al qaeda, giving credit to al qaeda is kinda unnecessary. why would he do that unless it was a requirement? it was a requirement to spell out his intentions to clarify he wasn't just out to blow up the van because it looks like the fake bomb was in the van, not the building.

so... al qaeda probably wasn't involved. how many other things have happened where later a letter is found giving credit to al qaeda by an operative not associated with al qaeda but just thinking he is?

but the impression that they want to send is that a lone person who wants to execute terrorist plots is tied to al qaeda because he said so... so now it is loosely inferred that he IS connected to al qaeda and this is al qaeda's plot... because it is terrorism and al qaeda has been mentioned and credited.

and they may have very well had nothing to do with it.

another one for the FBI... another mark against al qaeda.

Is the terrorist an ats member? Maybe an occupier?

A federal law enforcement source? The federal reserve police? Cough......

Sounds funny...... It would literally have done nothing to blow it up. Kill a few people, sure. Hurt the bankers? No, not at all.

Originally posted by PaperbackWriter

Originally posted by waltdisney

Originally posted by CALGARIAN

THERE WE GO AGAIN! You're Godd*mn own American police force and bureau entrapping these people.
ALL of these crazies wouldn't have been able to even start the first step without being ployed into it.

This is gross.

edit on 17-10-2012 by CALGARIAN because: (no reason given)

While you may think we are entrapping innocent misguided foreigners, the truth may be that this whole story is bogus and made up to push an agenda. This "terrorist" is nothing more than a B list actor paid overtime.

That's how I see it also. After giving his "undercover FBI statement" of complaint, John Neas doesn't sign it nor is there a Magistrate Judge signature.
Therefore, it could be completely false.

CONCLUSION

WHEREFORE, your deponent respectfully requests that the

defendant REZWANUL NAFIS be dealt with according to law.

_______________________________
JOHN NEAS
Special Agent
Federal Bureau of Investigation

Sworn to before me this
___ day of October, 2012

______________________________
UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE
EASTERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK

(Taken from the link to his statement.)

It seems that this story is just another empty headline story on the heels of another FED story about how "misunderstood" and valuable an institution it is.
(From Huff Post article)
It seems like blantant psy-op build-up to continue the FED and rehab it's reputation by having us believe that if Al-Queda hates it, it must be good, sort of rot.
I do believe it's lease and powers are up at the end of this year. Is this a sympathy ploy to re-up for another 99 years?

Now THAT is a great theory.

Makes perfect sense to me.

you mean f.b.i targets some stupid facebook kid with wild posts, sends agents undercover as hard core al qaeda operatives who feed into this kids fantasies.

once they have the kid intimidated to believe he is the next great mujahideen freedom fighter, they make him prove it by supplying him with the plans, training, the "explosives" , the support, the getaway plans, the rewards (like being made al qaeda and meeting "high ups" in afghanistan) and the pressure to go thru with "it".

and the kid goes from a stupid facebook user with wild fantasies that he'll outgrow once he gets married or gets laid and his girlfriend is asking him to go to the store and get ice cream at 3 in the morning, to a 40 year prison sentence.

and america is safe from a "terror plot" that they created and america was in no threat of.

meanwhile real terrorists, who have access to all this crap without random strangers approaching them with it, are roaming free until the opportunity presents itself.

reply to post by Frankenchrist

Originally posted by Frankenchrist
Soooooo, 2 of the 3 involved where FBI agents?

Soooooo, it was the governments idea?

Is that what I'm reading?

There was no real threat, just fake plans.

There was nothing "foiled".

Since it wasn't real in the first place.

Assuming the story is straight.

Your neighbor comes to me to buy a gun with intent to kill your family. I am a, FBI planted, gun shop owner. I sell your ignoramous neighbor a starter pistol, because I overheard his plot. He comes to shoot your family. You are:

A) Pissed off that I egged him on by selling him a gun.

B) Pissed off that he was unfairly tricked.

C) Happy not to be planning funerals.

Originally posted by rickymouse
Why would anyone want to blow up the Federal Reserve?

It's not worth the cost of the explosives.

First thing that I pictured in my mind was a big iron vault with a paper in there that says... I O U

It's OK guys you can go back to work now! Everything is just fine we caught the guy trying to foil our plans to printing more tissue paper ::uhhh I mean money!

This is how you do it.



Ride that train !

"Blowing up a building can change the world ".

Originally posted by zayonara
reply to post by Frankenchrist

 

Originally posted by Frankenchrist
Soooooo, 2 of the 3 involved where FBI agents?

Soooooo, it was the governments idea?

Is that what I'm reading?

There was no real threat, just fake plans.

There was nothing "foiled".

Since it wasn't real in the first place.

Assuming the story is straight.

Your neighbor comes to me to buy a gun with intent to kill your family. I am a, FBI planted, gun shop owner. I sell your ignoramous neighbor a starter pistol, because I overheard his plot. He comes to shoot your family. You are:

A) Pissed off that I egged him on by selling him a gun.

B) Pissed off that he was unfairly tricked.

C) Happy not to be planning funerals.

edit on 17-10-2012 by zayonara because: (no reason given)

Gun store owner wouldn't sell anything to someone who was threatening to kill his family, he would call the police and report him for making threats to harm others. The police show up and execute due process and put him in jail. He has no one but himself to blame and sees now that these things even planned can get you put in jail and he'll be glad to get out when he does, hopefully rehabilitate himself but will be watched from there on out according to due process, which he is aware of and it has been layed down to him in various ways like probation or parole or whatever. He knows why it's happening and will also be glad when that is over.

Maybe with a little luck he could even get some extra help since the government has basically made mental cases out of the public concerning the damn economy and disastrous situations and it surprises me we don't all have some form of anxiety disorder etc etc...

But in your scenario, the gun store stars serving drinks as a gesture of acquaintance and wanting to converse about all this, talking about how he supports family annihilation, wants to hear some good plots to see what he thinks and wants to see how you are thinking it through, affirming to you how important it is to succeed and devise a solid plan. Giving you more time to "premeditate" which is a particularly important aspect in a crime, just how long a person premeditated on their own and anyone who premeditated with them... very important, can GREATLY vary sentencing. He even asks to watch you load the gun and drives you to your house, parks in your driveway and waits for you to prove what you said.

There's a big difference in those stories.