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As for why no one could confirm the source of the blast until early Tuesday, Harris said in The Times of Shreveport (http://(link tracking not allowed)/WmTymj ) that the blast site was not easily visible due to darkness and fog. He added that moisture in the ground because of recent rains allowed the explosives to burn out quickly.
Originally posted by autopat51
so..a massive explosion occurs in an underground bunker
rattles windows for miles around
yet leaves no hole in the ground at all
knocks a train of the rails, yet leaves the tree's alone.
very curious
Originally posted by TheOtter
reply to post by LSU0408
From an emergency services perspective, it does make sense that they would have waited until morning to investigate. You want to make sure the scene is safe before you send in your firemen. Ther could have been more explosions that might have killed or injured them. You just don't know in the dark, in the woods.
On the other hand, it seems odd that they would not have evacuated the boys at the youth offernders' program, just in case.
Originally posted by LSU0408
Originally posted by TheOtter
reply to post by LSU0408
From an emergency services perspective, it does make sense that they would have waited until morning to investigate. You want to make sure the scene is safe before you send in your firemen. Ther could have been more explosions that might have killed or injured them. You just don't know in the dark, in the woods.
On the other hand, it seems odd that they would not have evacuated the boys at the youth offernders' program, just in case.
Yesterday they said firemen were there putting out hotspots. A bunker explosion doesnt leave an oblong crater 10' away from the bunker and clear out trees and a train in a 12' to 15' path directly in front of it. It would take down all those trees...
Originally posted by Ooahn
Hi all, I searched online for the place of explosions to see if I can found something. I picked up radar image, Google Maps images and flashearth.com images. Seems something blew up at 32.569673,-93.371111 from flashearth.com images.
Flashearth.com uses Bing Maps, taken by NASA and seems to be daily updated.
I made an overlapped image of radar, maps and flashearth.com at this link:
Originally posted by wirefly
reply to post by Signals
The more I look into this and see the picture and video along with the bing map coords that I posted last night showing train cars inside the bunker areas just sitting idle, the more I can see the bunker explosion coming together. We used to play in bunkers like that over near the decommissioned Chenault air base in Lake Charles LA. those were at ground level. They didn't go down at all.
They are big concrete structures covered in dirt. The weakest point is the roof as it is the thinnest and I would say the next weakest would be the door on the front of the bunker. If you look at the still picture, you can see the fresh clay exposed by the blast all around three sides and the front is scorched from the blast where the blast was less contained and shot out laterally along the ground while the earth structure forced the blast upward on the other sides. The train cars were most likely just sitting there, if it was as it is in the bing images. They were most likely derailed by the force of the dirt that was displaced from the blast and not the actual blast shockwave itself. That's alot like us using sand mortars to blow out doors and walls in the movies. We use a small charge to propel a tube filled with sand that carries more force with it to push objects around. It's much more effective than simply using a shockwave. If we used the shockwave alone, we'd have to build a charge so big that it would be unsafe for anyone in the area and have no where near the precision we require.
I still call shenanigans though. Something doesn't jive.
ksla.com
Louisiana State Police confirm that there is the possibility of a violation in connection with the explosion in an underground bunker at Camp Minden late Monday night.
The company that handles the explosives is called Explo Systems, Incorporated. They're not offering any comment, but KSLA News 12 has confirmed that the area that's now been sealed off has been investigated by an explosives expert.
The Louisiana State Police is leading the investigation into the explosion. That investigation continues.
ksla.com
KSLA's Adam Hooper took a ride in helicopter to get an aerial view of the destruction at Camp Minden.
As Hooper notes, the blast site is actually comprised of two blasted areas. The ground is blackened more at one site than the other.
The blast was strong enough to knock down trees surrounding the area. So many train cars were derailed from nearby tracks that it appears that the entire train was derailed. Some of the track beneath the overturned cars appear to be damaged as well.
Originally posted by deadeyedick
reply to post by wirefly
What would cause the explosion in the first place if it really did explode?
At every turn the media reports take they are contradicting every other report and logic.
Originally posted by haven123
www.dailymotion.com...
some good upclose video of the site here^^^
Update on Explosion at Munitions Bunker in Mason County, W.Va. Mon, 17 May 2010 19:16:00 EDT