Please explain how every lunar backdrop can be identified on Mauna Kea in Google Earth?

It will be a great future tourist attraction once it is out.
The construction of the first telescope there would have been an ideal cover for unusual activity, completed in 1970 so would fit well, the roads were constructed at the same time so would have allowed subtle transport of equipment.

Only the backdrops were photographed here, more accessible and controlled conditions would have been needed for the whole project.

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oh just do your darned taxes and go to bed !

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As per your picture you posted earlier:



Points A, B and D that you have labeled would need erosion that would have taken many hundreds of thousands of years to complete. The differences in your picture are quiet clear for anyone to see. That many metric tons of rock would not erode in only 40 to 50 years!

Next: the right end of your photo patch does not line up at all with the moon hills. Not even a little.

Last: Point C.......in order for point C to match, would require many, many, MANY tons of rock to not erode, but some how be put there. There is a INCREASE in mass there....not erosion.

Top it all off with the fact that you are using Google Earth 3D to do a comparison, which is notorious for all sorts of artifacts, stretching and incorrect topology. If anything you should be trying to find actual photos of these hills.

Originally posted by Jason88
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I had to jog my memory, but I believe we needed permission from Parker Ranch because we were "humping" (hiking) to the training area - and as memory serves we didn't hit a road for many miles whereby upon seeing our base and the 30 mile hump was over, I promptly tripped and fell on my face because I was so happy - forever earning the nickname "Dizzy" while in the service.

Did I understand you to say that while humping, you fell down dizzy with glee?

I'm so sorry, I just couldn't resist! I read you loud and clear so no need to re-iterate...

OP, Uncle Fred worked for NASA during Gemini, Mercury and Apollo eras. He helped test/troubleshoot the Saturn V rocket that propelled men into space, and led a team to develop the first fully automated (computerized) launch, for which he was nominated for "The Apolloneer Award." He took me to Cape Canaveral to watch Apollo 11 and 13 blast off into space. He would have known if it was all fake. If you tell me Uncle Fred lied to me, you will shatter my world. He was one of the kindest, smartest, most honorable people you'd ever want to meet. He's dead now, but he loved his work. I just can't go with you on this thought-path. Sorry... Uncle Fred wins, hands down!

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OK so you have only one particular skyline which 'almost' matches one from the moon, and yet you state that EVERY lunar background is represented on Mauna Kea in Google Earth.

Where is this on Mauna Kea?

Your argument is very, very weak.

You need to watch Kubrick's Odyssey. It can be found as a torrent.

Originally posted by rollsthepaul
You need to watch Kubrick's Odyssey. It can be found as a torrent.

And what is that supposed to prove? That you can make a realistic moon scene? Too bad nothing in hollywood can re-create the gravity on the moon and how it really looks.

Why would they need to photograph backdrops in the first place? Why not just paint them? In any event, professionals have indeed matched up photographs from Apollo 17 to features in the background to a high degree of precision:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Explain that!

Originally posted by Mart0
Because hills have a tendency to look like other hills.

Just like Chinese all look the same.

Originally posted by rolfharriss




O.k a little experiment, lets try and rule out Mauna Kea as a site where the Apollo footage may have been filmed.

Do this for yourselves and spend 5 minutes checking images against the apollo mountain backdrops..

You may be in for a shock!

This thread is not even valid. The pics you posted are not even close to the same, and yet you claim "every lunar backdrop can be identified on Mauna Kea in Google Earth. It would have been nice if at least the first pics you posted were even remotely the same.

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Thanks for matching up the images like I suggested before! That makes it even more clear!

I don't see a match.
Why do you use google earth? It distorts when you use the tilt or 3D

Why would they fake it, then be admitting they use it to test ?

NASA, International Partners Test Rovers in Hawaii02.23.10 High above the tropical forests, inviting Pacific waters and sandy beaches, there's a unique site that has many of the same chemical and physical characteristics as extraterrestrial soil. Called Mauna Kea, it's a remote and cold dormant volcano on the "Big Island" of Hawaii.

On the lower slope of Mauna Kea, at a site that resembles a lunar crater, NASA and its international partners are advancing future space exploration. On Jan. 22, 2010, a joint team from Kennedy and Johnson helped kick off a field test project called in-situ resource utilization, or ISRU for short, on Mauna Kea with support from Hawaii's Pacific International Space Center for Exploration Systems, or PISCES. "NASA runs tests at sites around the world to simulate the moonscape and other space environments," said Bill Larson, head of NASA's ISRU program at Kennedy. "These 'analog' activities help us evaluate the interactions of multiple systems relating to mobility, infrastructure and effectiveness in harsh climates."

NASA

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Awesome! Its hard to believe its real

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You know that's like pre 1920's hollywood special effects right?

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Is it? Or are you lying o_O

Originally posted by eriktheawful

Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid
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Now that is an awesome video! Thanks for sharing it! I had never seen that video before. It's great to see someone actually performed such an experiment to compare the two! Thanks for sharing!

You're quite welcome.

It is the one video that tends to be a thorn in the moon hoaxer's side. I've seen all sorts of explanations ranging from video manipulation to green screening, each of which fail because of how the pendulum behaves and how the astronauts are interacting with the equipment.

I've even seen rather devout Moon Hoaxers say: Okay, well that video is real, so they finally got to the moon by Apollo 14, but all the ones before are fake!

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That's like pre 1920's hollywood special effects! It's so old school. Just having a pendulum move in slow mo big deal. That's LAUGHABLE to a good hollywood F/X crew. And they likely had stanley and friends so you're not gonna get better than that at that time.

Not like I'm gonna change your mind but ...here watch....









Last video....

vimeo.com...

Originally posted by r2d246

Originally posted by eriktheawful

Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid
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Now that is an awesome video! Thanks for sharing it! I had never seen that video before. It's great to see someone actually performed such an experiment to compare the two! Thanks for sharing!

You're quite welcome.

It is the one video that tends to be a thorn in the moon hoaxer's side. I've seen all sorts of explanations ranging from video manipulation to green screening, each of which fail because of how the pendulum behaves and how the astronauts are interacting with the equipment.

I've even seen rather devout Moon Hoaxers say: Okay, well that video is real, so they finally got to the moon by Apollo 14, but all the ones before are fake!

edit on 15-10-2012 by eriktheawful because: (no reason given)

That's like pre 1920's hollywood special effects! It's so old school. Just having a pendulum move in slow mo big deal. That's LAUGHABLE to a good hollywood F/X crew. And they likely had stanley and friends so you're not gonna get better than that at that time.

NO whats LAUGHABLE is your lack of understanding of the science behind the pendulum video I take it you didn't do physics at school.

YOU cant recreate that motion by filming and slowing down that's what you don't understand, whats happened to the education system round the world in the last 30 yrs or so its went DOWNHILL big time!

Pretty incredible stuff there, can anyone spot anymore.

I bet there will be a sudden scrub of Google Earth!

What we need is photo real images then they can be matched up exactly, different lenses obviously have different effects so we need away to simulate a camera lense through google earth images.

If we get the library of all NASA apollo backdrops we can match them up. I believe there is a program which will simulate the effect of different camera lenses, so we can get an exact match.

Incredible ! I do recommend you do this for yourselves don't take the word of the pro debunkers, it will be immediately obvious the 'moon' backdrops were photographed in Hawaii.

'When you can remove one of truths protective layers' Neil Armstrong

Do consider any experiment video is of such poor grainy quality it cannot be considered evidence, as obviously the grain covers any kevlar thread. Video is poor evidence in light of what we know effects can easily achieve.


P.S pro debunkers if you can arrange to get my tax bill paid that would help me focus on work instead.