Gunmen shoot 14-year-old girl who spoke out against the Taliban

For those of you wondering why it is necessary to oppose The Taliban.

www.independent.ie...

GUNMEN in Pakistan shot and seriously wounded a 14-year-old schoolgirl who rose to fame for speaking out against Taliban militants, authorities said.

Her crime?

Being a girl and wanting to gain an education and become a Doctor so that she could help people.

On Tuesday, gunmen arrived at her school and asked for her by name, witnesses told police. Yousufzai was shot when she came out of class and went to a bus

Some would have you believe that it's all 'the west's' fault or that we should just leave them alone and let them got on with it themselves.

I've asked in several other threads what the alternative would be if we weren't opposing The Taliban and no-one really seems willing to answer that, so I ask again - what would the apologists have us do?

Taliban is driven by religious extremism . Groups like such should be banned forever . There can be no excuse for slaughter in the name of religion . Taliban is living in the DARK AGES .

It seems like another way to bomb more civilians in order to teach them the "way of the west".

I still don't care how they want to run the their country. US acting like a someone that does not do any crime against humanity...

We protest these kinda of things but we end up killing more of their people than they do.

I've asked in several other threads what the alternative would be if we weren't opposing The Taliban and no-one really seems willing to answer that, so I ask again - what would the apologists have us do?

It is for the people of that nation to rise up against the Taliban not other countries. Eventually the people will get fed up with them and take them out this has been done many times throughout history.

Several countries in the middle east kill children for no reason and the world does nothing about them so why should the Taliban be singled out?

This doesn't surprise me at all...


These dudes are nothing but Cavemen, living in the past. They will get what's coming to them sooner or later. Hope they don't think what they're doing is getting them anything good in the afterlife, they're so screwed. But I get it, may as well go down with the ship...they've already committed to being foolish.

Originally posted by Octagon
Taliban is driven by religious extremism . Groups like such should be banned forever . There can be no excuse for slaughter in the name of religion . Taliban is living in the DARK AGES .

And this makes sense how........what makes you think banning them would stop anything.......they are willing to murder innocent girls and numerous other crimes and you think "banning" them is gonna stop anything?

Originally posted by luciddream
It seems like another way to bomb more civilians in order to teach them the "way of the west".

Ugh dude.. why? I mean, really.

How is this. The Taliban SUCK BOTTOM simply because they're an archaic sect of a religion that rules by fear and have openly been responsible for the countless death of people for crap like clothing violations. Beards. Showing skin. Radio. Music. Um-FRIGGEN-Brellas...

Do you need to bring the US in for comparison? Does this help you justify the existence of extremists? They cant exist because on;y the US makes monsters.

1 15 year old girl had her head bashed in by a tribe of muslim extremists under the control of the taliban, a few years ago. A 15 year old girl, dragged through the streets, screaming and kicking, to be thrown to the ground, kicked, punched and large chucnks of concrete cinders thrust down onto her head.

No way was this muslim girl kanoodling with some christian. God damn no.

Oh but the taliban the taliban nyah, oh well the USA the USA Nyah Nyah!

What the hell does that do?

Originally posted by buster2010

I've asked in several other threads what the alternative would be if we weren't opposing The Taliban and no-one really seems willing to answer that, so I ask again - what would the apologists have us do?

It is for the people of that nation to rise up against the Taliban not other countries. Eventually the people will get fed up with them and take them out this has been done many times throughout history.

Several countries in the middle east kill children for no reason and the world does nothing about them so why should the Taliban be singled out?

Imagine a group of people who you never meet. Ever. But you hear about them. They get violent, angry and they have no problem staring you in the eye as they say "You attack me, I will kill you and yours." which leaves you asking.. how can these people claim to be ordinary people? They have extreme views. They engage in violence to end many conflicts and they wear different clothing that specifically identifies them with all of the people in that group who have committed violent crimes. How can you tell one from the other if they purposely dress the same?

These people think they are above the law, telling the ordinary person what is right, while demanding respect for their beliefs and traditions.

This group of people even have the audacity to claim that they are a peaceful group and that it is our misunderstanding of their life that makes us hate them.

Yeah yeah, I know right? I hate Hells Angels too, but I can't say every single one of them is bad.

Surely that is discrimination?

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask

Originally posted by Octagon
Taliban is driven by religious extremism . Groups like such should be banned forever . There can be no excuse for slaughter in the name of religion . Taliban is living in the DARK AGES .

And this makes sense how........what makes you think banning them would stop anything.......they are willing to murder innocent girls and numerous other crimes and you think "banning" them is gonna stop anything?

In a way, -- agree with you 100% btw - you can think of this like a wound on the skin of life. An open wound will bleed. You don't give that blood a name. But it comes non stop. If you try to stem the flow of blood, you get very messy and all you end up is with a scab. That scab, however, is a representation of bloods attempt to run free.

you remove the scab, you still have to deal with the blood... so it is the same, the condensed effects of people with a set idea, not fitting of this century by any modern standards, is what it is. You attack the scab, you only attack the visible portion of this ideology.

It is still the same under neath however.

Originally posted by Freeborn
For those of you wondering why it is necessary to oppose The Taliban.

Her crime?

Being a girl and wanting to gain an education and become a Doctor so that she could help people.

Charlie Fuqua, Arkansas Legislative Candidate, Endorses Death Penalty For Rebellious Children In Book


Time to oppose the GOP too then.

Let's start using our brains to make the entire world a better place.

Human first.

They remind me of gangsters. Like the ones in Mexico. They should be delt with as is fitting.

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The article says the Taliban is the standing government, with organized courts. If she was a criminal the Taliban could have just arrested her. When the article says, witnesses talked to the police, the police is the Taliban. These gunmen may be insiders or just thugs. The Taliban should arrest them. This doesn't necessarily mean the taliban shot her. If I criticize the american government, and then someone shoots me, does that mean the american government did it?

First, may all who care please pray for her and others fast full recovery.

She is a brave girl, far braver than any pakistani that I know today, for she dared to stand up to the Taliban, not just for herself, but for all little girls to get an education.

It was only for this reason that unknown gunmen shot at her with the intention to kill, only an innocent unarmed child. Who else but the Taliban and the apostate satanic clerics masquerading under the guise of Islam would do such a thing, that had been strictly forbidden by the good prophet Muhammad?

Furthermore, the prophet loved women, just as Allah, the ever compassionate, loved all humans. He taught his followers to treat women as partners, and should not be ill treated.

During his time, education was very limited for men, let alone women. But being partners of men, muslim women too were taught whatever skill that was necessary to complement the family unit - farming, goat herding, cooking, etc.

Over time, as mankind population grew, so too education and skills today. And being partners of men, women too would be given the opportunities to education, so as to complement the family and the nation. Women are not to be maids, slaves or sex toys. This was NEVER what prophet Muhammad taught. Only the depraved satanic beasts would treat muslim women as such.

Islam was meant to progress and evolve, not regress like the paganism that was the barbaric arab world the prophet had been divinely taught and sought to change during his time.

This incident is further proof of what the Taliban and radical militants TRUELY are - satanic beasts hiding under the skin of Islam to enslave muslims, as the good prophet had warned during his last sermon.

May the Pakistani and Afghanistan elected authorities, the police, the military and the People, have true faith and courageously confront the devil spawn once and for all, eliminate them so that they will never exists anymore to beguile or harm another innocent life.

Awful awful crime against humanity.
This brave girl is worth a legion of taliban.

Wonder if there will be street protests at this outrage by the moderate followers of the religion of peace?

Nah didn't think so.
But draw a stupid picture or make a stupid film and all hell breaks loose.

It's enough to make me try to build a starship and leave this planet.
Now where is my toolbox and that old hyperdrive I found in the junkyard?

Originally posted by filosophia
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The article says the Taliban is the standing government, with organized courts. If she was a criminal the Taliban could have just arrested her. When the article says, witnesses talked to the police, the police is the Taliban. These gunmen may be insiders or just thugs. The Taliban should arrest them. This doesn't necessarily mean the taliban shot her. If I criticize the american government, and then someone shoots me, does that mean the american government did it?

indeed, but many prefer to swallow whatever he MSM throws at them,
especially when it confirms their prejudices.

how convienient, this poor kid murdered by monsters, that much we can be sure of.

whether those monsters were local religious extremists [not giving a damn that it will be used as demonizing propaganda against them] or non local monsters seeking to generate demonizing propaganda against the taliban, is not certain.

but again, the MSM, long outed as a propaganda outlet, having demonstrated it's willingness and has been caught, fabricating the news, is of course trust worthy when it comes to confirming some peoples bigotries and jingoism.

Originally posted by zroth

Originally posted by Freeborn
For those of you wondering why it is necessary to oppose The Taliban.

Her crime?

Being a girl and wanting to gain an education and become a Doctor so that she could help people.

Charlie Fuqua, Arkansas Legislative Candidate, Endorses Death Penalty For Rebellious Children In Book


Time to oppose the GOP too then.

Let's start using our brains to make the entire world a better place.

Human first.

edit on 9-10-2012 by zroth because: (no reason given)

yup these dominionist, quiverfull, etc are the american version of the taliban and worse.
they are way more a threat to the human race than any moslem fanatic IMO,
these are the folks that are behind the "witch burnings" and murder of gays in africa and also trying to touch off:
1-a clash of civilizations/crusade against islam

2-an interplanetary war with any ET's foolish enough to reveal themselves to the public,with their "ET's are demons" trope.

3-the apocalypse in general by their fanatical support of their fellow psychopaths in the zionist camp

4- sneak in through the back door and impose a theocracy, bring back stoning, killing rebelious children [when they are not targeting and labeling them as having the fictional ODD]

but hey let's ignore the real dangers and just focus on those brown people those who have swallowed the koolaid just love to hate on.

It is for the people of that nation to rise up against the Taliban not other countries

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And here I was thinking it was the responsibility of the people that created the Taliban.

For all those pitiless animals that lived amongst us mankind, trying to deflect blame of the Taliban and making all sorts of outrage against the west, msm and humanity, guess what?

The animal taliban had finally grew some balls and admitted to their attempted slaughter upon a 14 year old child who had the divine couragage to stand up against them.

The taliban council claimed that she is promoting secularism and deserved to be slain.

I guess they would have slained the good prophet Muhammad too, for he left no heir nor appointed any leader, despite all the time he had to do so. It was secularism that he taught, for ALL muslims that had been exposed to and given divine knowledge on how to progress and evolve a civilisation, through the sharing, discussing and debates based upon civilisational guides he divinely shared.

This only proves that the taliban is not a council of human beings given divine guidance, but one of a SATANIC COUNCIL HELL BENT ON THE EXTERMINATION OF INNOCENT HUMANS !

If the prophet was alive today, he would have taken the sword and led in the destruction of that apostate and devil spawned council, EVERY single one of them and their supporters, the way he annihilated the pagan human sacrificing beings that lived in Arabia during his mission on Earth.

May Allah grant a miracle to the little muslim child and others hurt, who had only been living up to the standards of what the prophet had taught - to be a partner to man and nation, and serve justice upon the evil and their supporters.

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The Taliban are not the ruling government in Pakistan, or any part of Pakistan or even Afghanistan where they originated.

The Taliban have openly claimed responsibility for this outrage and have tried to justify it by accusing her of secularism.

www.bbc.co.uk...
www.bbc.co.uk...

The Taliban have one objective - the imposition of Sharia.
They wish to regain control of Afghanistan and resume their programme of eliminating anything and anyone that doesn't comply with their particularly brutal and repressive interpretation of Islam.

The Taliban has support at every level of Pakistan's military who have proven links with them and have actively collaborated with them in terrorist activities.
After gaining control of Afghanistan they want to spread their control into Pakistan - and with that goes Pakistan's nuclear arsenal.
India would not sit idly by and allow that to happen - we would then have a major military confrontation that could quite easily have very serious consequences for each and every one of us regardless of where we live.

Some people maybe quite happy to say it's got nothing to do with us, and to a point they'd be correct - but at what point do we have a moral responsibility to stop outrages like this?
And yes, 'the west' should be more transparent and consistent in it's opposition to things like this.

I'm not saying that the way 'the west' has conducted itself in the region is correct - 'we' have made some awful mistakes and committed some indefensible atrocities - but both morally and politically we can not allow this to continue.

The vast majority of people in both Afghanistan and Pakistan do not support The Taliban and are in fear of them and what they are capable of doing.

I don't have any magic solutions - I'm just a simple, ordinary guy - but there can be no type of justification for acts like this and The Taliban must be opposed.

Malala is in a stable condition after under going surgery - but for how long?
The Taliban have stated that if she survives they will target her again.

www.bbc.co.uk...

A 14 year old girl whose 'crime' is wanting to receive an education.

Seems like public opinion in Pakistan is pretty much supportive of her but to be honest I wouldn't have much faith in the Pakistan authorities providing adequate security measures - corruption is rife and commonplace in Pakistan and Taliban sympathisers and collaborators have infiltrated every level of both the Pakistan military and police.

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S&F

Hopefully she will be on her way to Dubai as soon as she is strong enough!

And to all of those here trying to derail the thread this is about Malala and not some GOP Candidate who will never be a position to execute any child. This is also not about who armed and trained the taliban! Never will I ever capitilise the name of these monsters again, they do not deserve the little respect that a capital letter infers!
This is about the rights of a young child who wanted to better herself and the world she lives in.
She has more guts in her little finger than any taliban terrorist. If they didn't have the guns to shoot her do you really think they wouldn't have buried her up to her shoulders and then stoned her? DO YOU? REALLY?