Signs accumulate that liberals are embarrassed by Obama - The tides have turned

reply to post by timetothink
There are many who say Clinton could of stopped much of what is going on right now in his Term. Be careful with your alliances because it might give up a lot about your self. Touting Clinton's accomplishments might reveal much more than you want.

reply to post by seabag
Do you actually read the posts or just wait until someone responds to you??

reply to post by VaterOrlaag


Wanna try agian?

What was the national deficit when Clnton left? 6 trillion meaning there was no surplus.

finance.townhall.com...

There was no Clinton surplus.

When was I touting Clinton's accomplishments...quite the opposite.

reply to post by neo96
The true genius behind Bill is Hillary.

reply to post by hoochymama
Especially giving it up for Obama like she did.

reply to post by hoochymama


Actually my husband created the money in my pocket, to tell the truth.


I do not agree with Democratic policies and the harm they do to independence and prosperity.

reply to post by timetothink
Thats how it should be. Giving credit to either of these so called Presidential Candidates is sickening to say the least. Giving any worth to either one of these so called Leaders makes me think there is something wrong with our society. Arguing about either one of these so called Commander in Chiefs makes me think we dont care about our Kids anymore.

reply to post by hoochymama


But unfortunately, this is the system we have right now and to not vote or just quit the system doesn't help either.

I still believe in the lesser of two evils than keeping the evil we know.

If i believe a candidate is going to protect the constitution and not make things worse, that's who I have to go with.

I don't want to sit back and let "him" have 4 more years.

I can admit there are things both good and bad in all people...I do not believe Clinton or Bush were bad presidents. But there are things I disliked and I prefer conservatives to democrats overall, because I am conservative (fiscally).

reply to post by seabag

So thousands of civilian deaths in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, and Somalia are insignificant since “those aren’t wars” by your definition?

Did I say they were insignificant?

You specifically stated he started two wars, now you are just backtracking with emotional distractions. Words mean things, if you don't understand their definitions, then don't use them.

So I'm sorry that you spoke will being ignorant of what the word "war" means, but that really isn't my fault. Maybe next time you should speak more precise so you don't look like you don't know what you are talking about.

reply to post by timetothink
Making it seem "not that bad" makes it seem it shouldn't matter. Trust me, Bush Jr and Obama are not the Worst. The People in there Circles have been doing this much longer than them two. The People you look to, Reagan, Bush Sr., Carter, Nixon, and there Inner Circle can be brought to blame.

Now, you can look at the Lobbyists in there terms to show you the true story but that might be another thread.

Just a question, how do you figure Romney is the lesser of two evils?? He will spend just as much and probably more in his term than Obama. History Proves that Fact!!! Seems your more Fiscally worried than anything else.

reply to post by seabag
Yeah, don't get too firmly entrenched in this fantasy of yours. Most "liberals" like Obama just fine. Yes we have misgivings, but we don't have to give into them like the PrePube Party does. No one is perfect. Well, except Romney, he's perfected the lie. No one, but no one should vote for him. This is a country that deserves better than most all of its crummy politicians. But Romney? Please, pull the other one! So we work with what we got. And so far We have a President who helped destroy Osama, he helped destroy Khaddafi, he helped us get back on the road to recovery. He also gave us some sort of health care plan, one I, as a poor person, would like to get a chance to at least see if it works before Bozo the Clod "repeals" it! If it doesn't work it can be repealed or changed. But all this talk of trading bombs for Big bird and "standing up to China" (as if all of our defense money isn't borrowed from them already...) it's all Romney bull#. Obama is not on the ropes. The day after the debates he had a rally that thirty thousand people attended. Romeny can't get 3500. So don't count your chickens there Fred. They ain't all hatched.

reply to post by whisperindave
LOL...helped destroy Kadafi?? He helped to destroy Osama?? Those guys have been around longer than Obama has been alive. Please. Look at my previous post. Obama has no idea who Kadafi or Osama are. He was following orders like the rest of them.

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reply to post by hoochymama


Because Obama already trashed the constitution by signing the NDAA and instituting Obamacare.....

he needs to go.

reply to post by hoochymama


How does history prove what Romney will do...he hasn't been President yet?

He did a lot of good in Mass. if you really, honestly research it.

Don't get me started on lobbyists, because that will divert the thread.

Everyone knows the President is not the only one in control...but with the power of Executive Order he is still powerful and dangerous.

reply to post by OrchusGhule
Exactly!!! The arguments from both sides are Funny at Best. A good American try, but still Funny.

reply to post by hoochymama


Then I believe you two should depart from the thread if you are only here to troll,

putting people down is very childish.