Israel shoots down their own drone

Originally posted by filosophia
reply to post by IsraeliGuy

 

Okay like your name doesn't indicate your leanings. What is more funny than me being skeptical is how suddenly israeli hardliners are quick to believe what hezzbollah or iran says. I thought hezzbollah was a terrorist org, so how can you trust them? You don't believe Iran when they say they're using nuclear power for peaceful means, but if they say hezzbollah sent a drone into Israeli territory, IT MUST BE TRUE. So, remind me again why I should trust a known terrorist organization, and why I should believe Iran on this issue but not their nuclear program?

Because of BRAINZ.
Iran and Hizbollah are enemies of Israel and vice versa. when Israel says that Iran does x and Iran says that it does y (or vice versa) it is indeed hard to know the truth.
But when both sides that hate each other guts say the same thing about an event that involves those sides , only a complete fool would still argue that it did not happen.
Strike that ,not only a complete fool. Them and solipsists.

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge


Solipsism has nothing to do with this topic, try and stay focused, if you want to argue philosophy catch me in the philosophy section. Your accusation that I am foolish because I don't immediately believe without question what two extremely fundamentalist religious countries say is, well, foolish.

If you agree with what Iran says, do you agree that Israel's Iron dome failed? Or do you think Israel shot the drone down in ten seconds like the video suggests? It's impossible to know. Iran says Israel's nuclear reactor may have been filmed, so is this proof that Israel has nukes or a nuclear reactor? I'm asking you because you seem to agree with Iran on this issue.

Originally posted by filosophia
reply to post by ZeroKnowledge

 

Solipsism has nothing to do with this topic, try and stay focused, if you want to argue philosophy catch me in the philosophy section. Your accusation that I am foolish because I don't immediately believe without question what two extremely fundamentalist religious countries say is, well, foolish.

If you agree with what Iran says, do you agree that Israel's Iron dome failed? Or do you think Israel shot the drone down in ten seconds like the video suggests? It's impossible to know. Iran says Israel's nuclear reactor may have been filmed, so is this proof that Israel has nukes or a nuclear reactor? I'm asking you because you seem to agree with Iran on this issue.

edit on 14-10-2012 by filosophia because: (no reason given)

A) Israel is not fundamentalistic religious country. Before you start to blindly argue with that - see about gay parades.
B) Fundamentalistic religious countries can say the truth and they can lie, just as Democratic, Totalitarian,Socialist, Fascist and other types of government did throughout the history.
C) Iron Dome is designed to intercept short range mortar/artillery/rocket fire. It is not supposed to deal with this kind of target.
Israel has designated SAM systems that should have intercepted the drone but it did not happen for some reason.
D) Video is 10 sec, drone was surely tracked prior to it. Even if there was a logical reason to release full video from moment of detection which would blow away response times schedule,who would like to stare at a dot in the sky for ,say, half an hour?
E) Israel has nuclear reactor and it never tried to hide it. Nuclear weapons program is totally different issue. Hizbollah could have filmed reactor as far as i know, but they could be lying about that too.
You do not have to trust details because each side is praising itself (Israeli prime minister praised the military for quick action despite that it was clearly a very serious breach in air defences; Hizbollah claims that it penetrated hundreds of kilomters and took photoes of Dimona though they do not release those photos) but the event did happen.

filosophia, as much as you enjoy playing the "now they are reliable and now they aren't", this applies to you as well. Unfortunately for you, logic dictates that Hizbollah has absolutely nothing to gain by claiming this drone their own if it wasn't, and lots of credit to haul in if it's theirs.

If you can't tell the difference between propaganda and between admission, don't even try to because it only seem as if you're mixing them up on purpose. Personally I believe you already acknowledge this is no false flag and you're only spouting your silly rhetoric in order to say the last word and make it seem like you hold any valid opinion. Good luck with that.

If Hizbollah were publishing a claim that the drone wasn't theirs, you and your fellow conspirators would be jumping up and down yelling 'false flag' even louder.

There is a time for everyone to simply realize they are living in a dreamland, or at least, realize they are wrong. By arguing this you prove nothing but your inability to see truth even when it's admitted.

Originally posted by filosophia
If you agree with what Iran says, do you agree that Israel's Iron dome failed? Or do you think Israel shot the drone down in ten seconds like the video suggests? It's impossible to know.

I don't know how much the Iron dome has to do with drones, if anything.
But, if nobody was waiting on purpose to see where this drone is heading, there was a serious failure with letting it travel freely for so long.

Also, I don't know what video are you talking about, but no IDF video suggested this drone was shot down in 10 seconds since it crossed the Israeli borders. How did you reach such a silly conclusion? Just because it's 10 second long does not mean it suggests that the whole event took 10 seconds. If the video was only 2 seconds long and showed only the explosion, would you think that the IDF implies this took 2 seconds?

It's so stupid to think that way, but yeah I can't be surprised by anything you anti-Israeli crowd spew out.