Romney Supporters: What policies that Romney talked about in the debate did you like?

Originally posted by Thunderheart
reply to post by HostileApostle

 

Dude, I'm not going to do a debate redux here, where you play Obama and I pretend I'm Romney,
You asked for examples, I gave them to you.
sayonara and good luck with all that anger.
Sorry your boy got his ass handed to him. better luck next time.

edit on 4-10-2012 by Thunderheart because: (no reason given)

Ah nothing says desperation like making assumptions about another posters emotional state.

OH NO I DID IT TOO ARGHGHGGHH!!!

1. Romney believes that if you lower taxes, Businesses will hire more people, who, in turn will increase the tax amount collected by government as a whole.

2. Romney believes that if you lower corporate taxes, foreign corporation will come here, increase the job base and thus revenue for the government to have to cut the deficit and debt.

3. Romney believes that healthcare mandates should be better left to the states, and to highly competitive insurance providers. With the except being that people with pre existing conditions cannot be refused.

4. Romney believes in a strong national defense and powerful military

5. Romney believes in working with people and respecting even those with different ideas than his.

6. Romney believes medicare shoud be left intact, except to younger people who want to find less expensive insurance providers, even though they can at anytime opt to return to medicare as it is.

7. Romney believes Obamacare with it's "death panels" are immoral.

8. Romney believes in smaller government, good teachers, and free enterprise values, good hard work and responsibility.

Those are just some of the things that I like about Romney. Just a few.

What I don't like about Obama is that he is a liberal communist muslim with ideas about stealing "stuff" from the rich to give to others who refuse to work for a living.

Originally posted by Fromabove
What I don't like about Obama is that he is a liberal communist muslim with ideas about stealing "stuff" from the rich to give to others who refuse to work for a living.

When you have such illusions about your enemy, it's hard for me to take your praise for your friend seriously.

Seriously, if you want to be listened to as an adult, stop throwing around silly cliches like that.

Originally posted by miniatus

Here's a lovely idea.. why not an actual debate?

Here, here. Get an ego-less, nobody moderator, give the two a topic, let them go at it for a half hour on it, step in when it gets out of hand, go on to next topic. They were basically just giving mini speeches last night with boring talking points. I want to hear substantive, spontaneous arguing - let them get into the meat of the issues. These debate formats are useless.

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Well, since none of those were discussed during last night debate, I don't see how you can say those helped Romney "win" last nights debate.

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People seeme to be confused about the topic of this thread, or maybe it is that Romney didn't really do that well on content and policy last night.

Tell me what Romney said last night about any of those policies you listed that you agree with him on.


I'm starting to think people are beginning to realize that even though they think Romney "won", they still don't like much of what he said. That is kind of the point of this thread. And this will be Romney's bain for the next few weeks, "you won the debate, but we still don't like you or your policies".

Hello

Im not a Romney supporter, but he gave a terrific performance.
I liked how he spoke about a need for more domestic coal/natural gas production and usage. I think the US having the best fine coal in the world should be exploited a lot more.


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10th amendment.

Healthcare and education ALL back into the states control.

Originally posted by HostileApostle
reply to post by Thunderheart

 

Well, since none of those were discussed during last night debate, I don't see how you can say those helped Romney "win" last nights debate.

THIS
www.abovetopsecret.com...

the parts in blue is why I think he won the debate.

Now seriously, let it go...Obama needed his teleprompter, he didn't have it so he looked like a child being lectured by an adult.
Like I said, better luck next time.

I read this a few weeks ago because I was curious what exactly Mitt Romney did in Massachusetts. Even though this is a wiki, go to the sources given and check them out for yourself as I did. I found it fairly interesting.

A few highlights that stuck out to me, both in favor and not in favor of Romney:

Job growth in Massachusetts rose at a rate of 1.5 percent (compared to the national average of 5.3 percent), placing Massachusetts 47th of the 50 states in new job creation over the course of Romney’s term.[64] The annual rate of job growth was improving by his last year in office, moving Massachusetts up from last place nationally to 28th.

On average, unemployment rates were slightly worse in the rest of the nation than in Massachusetts for the first three years of Romney’s term.[59][62] By his final year in office, the state was struggling to keep pace with the rate of falling unemployment nationwide.[59] Massachusetts’ national ranking leapt from the 29th highest in unemployment when Romney took office to the 18th by the end of his term.

On the first day that same-sex marriages came into effect in Massachusetts, May 17, 2004, Romney instructed town clerks not to issue marriage licenses to out-of-state gay couples, except for those announcing their intention to relocate to the Commonwealth by requiring the enforcement of the "1913 law" (General Legislation, Part II, Title III, Chapter. 207 (Certain Marriages Prohibited), Sections 11, 12, & 13), which prohibits non-residents from marrying in Massachusetts if the marriage would be void in their home state.[118] The law had not been enforced for several decades.

Working with the legislature, Romney developed legislation to provide tax exemptions to disabled veterans and benefits to families of fallen and missing soldiers. Romney signed the Massachusetts Military Enhanced Relief Individual Tax (MERIT) Plan into law on August 14, 2006. The bill increases property tax exemptions for disabled veterans and grants spouses of veterans killed or missing in action since September 11, 2001 full property tax exemptions for five years. After five years the spouses receive an annual $2,500 exemption under the legislation.

A March 2005 poll found that only 32 percent felt Romney should be re-elected if he ran for a second term as governor (69 percent of Republicans said he should be re-elected, compared to 31 percent of independents and 12 percent of Democrats).

He also proposed cuts in state expenditures for Medicaid, the government program providing health care for the poorest state residents. The cuts included caps in payments to medical providers (one example being through limiting payments for hospital stays to 20 days, no matter how sick the patient), increased stringency of the criteria for Medicaid eligibility, and rationing of access to higher-priced medications for Medicaid patients.[14] Some 36,000 Massachusetts residents lost their Medicaid eligibility

These are just a few of the things I thought worthy of reading, but there are actually many more. It is worth the read-through, imo, just do your own fact checking. Sorry this is long :

Edit: I guess I should give you a link, huh? Source

Originally posted by Thunderheart

Originally posted by HostileApostle
reply to post by Thunderheart

 

Well, since none of those were discussed during last night debate, I don't see how you can say those helped Romney "win" last nights debate.

THIS
www.abovetopsecret.com...

the parts in blue is why I think he won the debate.

Now seriously, let it go...Obama needed his teleprompter, he didn't have it so he looked like a child being lectured by an adult.
Like I said, better luck next time.

I responded to those, and you didn't want to address any of the points I made.

I'm sorry, but facts are on my side. Every policy that you claim to like of Romney's that he talked about last night will directly harm the middle class.

Sure, you can make your remarks about Obama and a teleprompter, but Obama did exactly what his campaign said he was going to do last night. Talke to the audience, not to Romney. Lay out his plans and force Romney to reveal details about his own. And just kind of stay low key for this first debate, let Romney come off as the aggressor. Both campaigns had their goals, to some extent they both met them. Romney had to come out as the aggressor to be noticed and try to not let this be another campaign disaster. Obama just had to ride out this first debate and not fall into a shouting match with Romney and let Romney expose himself to the American public. But Romney has to own and be responsible for the things he said now, this is officially on record straight out of his mouth. No more flip flopping or etch a sketching.

I think you are going to be a bit dissapointed if you think this is the Obama you will see in the next debates.

Originally posted by spinalremain
Hello

Im not a Romney supporter, but he gave a terrific performance.
I liked how he spoke about a need for more domestic coal/natural gas production and usage. I think the US having the best fine coal in the world should be exploited a lot more.

 

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Yes, the "performance" is what Romney needed.

And yes, I agree on that policy with Romney, but so does Obama. Romney was actually praising Obama's policy at that point. And then he went off and lied about oil production not being up on public land, but on the coal issue he was praising Obama's policies.

Originally posted by tkwasny
10th amendment.

Healthcare and education ALL back into the states control.

Well I wish the southern Republican states good luck with that.

Since they are the most dependent on Federal funding for both, they will have the hardest time going it alone.

There is a reason the federal government has stepped into to both of those areas. Education was failing, as a nation we were raising stupid kids. We still are, but the States had plenty of opportunity to do something about it themselves. And even with federal assistance, most States are still struggling to provide quality education to students.

On healthcare, nothing was stopping the States to implement their own plan. The one state that did was MA under Romney. No other State has stepped up to do it as well. So when people are dying because insurance companies are kicking them off their policies, it was time for the Federal government to step in.

The States had their chance, they failed to perform, so it is the federal governments job to protect the American people when they are suffering.

Originally posted by HostileApostle

Originally posted by Thunderheart

Originally posted by HostileApostle
reply to post by Thunderheart

 

Well, since none of those were discussed during last night debate, I don't see how you can say those helped Romney "win" last nights debate.

THIS
www.abovetopsecret.com...

the parts in blue is why I think he won the debate.

Now seriously, let it go...Obama needed his teleprompter, he didn't have it so he looked like a child being lectured by an adult.
Like I said, better luck next time.

I responded to those, and you didn't want to address any of the points I made.

You asked for examples of why I thought Romney won, I gave them to you, I didn't ask for your opinion because I already heard it from Rachel Maddows when he was whining about it on his show.

You have your opinion why you dislike Romney and I have my opinion why I dislike Obama, that's fine, that is why Murrica is the greatest country in the world, because we can disagree without bombing each other or cutting each other's heads off...right?....right? can I get an amen?! hallelujah!!

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Hallelujah!! ....

Des

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Oh, that's cute. You are referring to Rachel Maddow as if she were a man. How very mature and tolerant of you.

Anywho, I just thought you would want some facts about the things Romney wants to do to you, but I see you aren't into facts. So you can continue with your petty insults towards Obama and other left leaning people, and I will continue to deal in facts.

reply to post by HostileApostle

Keep your "facts" (opinions) to yourself, if I wanted to hear them I would listen to that guy Rachell Maddows.

Anyways all of your typing will never change the fact that Obama delivered the worst presidential debate since Jimmy Carter got whooped by Ronald Reagan.
...the worst...since Carter....

Cute thread, OP asks for supported policy from Romney supporters and then proceeds to regurgitate every well worn Obama campaign talking point and when anybody disses his man the OP chastises by saying its all about Romneys policies - right!!!

That in a nutshell is how these people work from Obama on down to the lowest peon.

State Rights and 10th Amendment all the Way!

reply to post by Thunderheart


I like how you call multiple independent studies on Romney's tax plans "opinons".

And then you turn around and claim it is a "fact" that this was the worst loss in a debate.

I don't watch Maddow, so you aren't offending me by insulting her lifestyle choices, but it does say a lot about you and your character.

Originally posted by Thunderheart
reply to post by HostileApostle

 

Keep your "facts" (opinions) to yourself, if I wanted to hear them I would listen to that guy Rachell Maddows.

Anyways all of your typing will never change the fact that Obama delivered the worst presidential debate since Jimmy Carter got whooped by Ronald Reagan.
...the worst...since Carter....

It was one debate. Romney was way behind coming in and needed to do something, and did. He'll likely get a bump out of this - he certainly won't suddenly be ahead in the polls, he'll likely just be slightly less way behind. Neither changed the substance of their platform (although you could argue that Romney did) - there are 2 more debates and Obama will likely only get better, and Romney certainly can get a lot worse. So relax and look at the big picture.