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Originally posted by DarthFazer
reply to post by hellobruce
Rumsfeld never said there was any money missing
Time to eat Crow nom nom nom eat hearty
www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by something wicked
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
OTOH, there's the 9/11 Commission Report, which is as far as I know, the only "official" "historical" record of the event which in the words of Zelikow himself is more of a "narrative" or a story than an actual historical accounting of events and on that note, you might be well served to research Zelikow's biography and his writings pre-9/11 to understand why he was charged with creating the official "narrative" for 9/11.. you might be rather taken aback..
Hi, no, not really, why would I be taken aback?
Zelikow
The idea of 'public presumption'," he explained, "is akin to [the] notion of 'public myth' but without the negative implication sometimes invoked by the word 'myth.'
Such presumptions are beliefs (1) thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and (2) shared in common within the relevant political community."
So Zelikow, the guy who wrote The 9/11 Commission Report, was an expert in how to misuse public trust and create PUBLIC MYTHS.
If 9/11 was nothing but a huge HOAX, you would naturally expect that the event itself would have to be perfectly scripted.
In 1998, Zelikow actually wrote Catastrophic Terrorism about imagining "the transformative event" three years before 9/11.
Here are Zelikow's 1998 words. Readers should imagine the possibilities for themselves, because the most serious constraint on current policy is lack of imagination.
An act of catastrophic terrorism that killed thousands or tens of thousands of people and/or disrupted the necessities of life for hundreds of thousands, or even millions, would be a watershed event in America's history.
It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented for peacetime and undermine Americans' fundamental sense of security within their own borders in a manner akin to the 1949 Soviet atomic bomb test, or perhaps even worse.
Constitutional liberties would be challenged as the United States sought to protect itself from further attacks by pressing against allowable limits in surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects, and the use of deadly force. More violence would follow, either as other terrorists seek to imitate this great "success" or as the United States strikes out at those considered responsible.
Like Pearl Harbor, such an event would divide our past and future into a "before" and "after."
The effort and resources we devote to averting or containing this threat now, in the "before" period, will seem woeful, even pathetic, when compared to what will happen "after."
Philip D. Zelikow
www.ksg.harvard.edu...
"... if the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center had succeeded, the resulting horror and chaos would have exceeded our ability to describe it. Such an act of catastrophic terrorism would be a watershed even in American history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America's fundamental sense of security..Like Pearl Harbor, the event would divide our past and future into a before and after. The United States might respond with.."
~ Philip Zelikow, pre-9/11
While at Harvard he worked with Ernest May and Richard Neustadt on the use, and misuse, of history in policymaking. They observed, as Zelikow noted in his own words, that "contemporary" history is "defined functionally by those critical people and events that go into forming the public's presumptions about its immediate past. The idea of 'public presumption'," he explained, "is akin to William McNeill's notion of 'public myth' but without the negative implication sometimes invoked by the word 'myth.' Such presumptions are beliefs (1) thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and (2) shared in common within the relevant political community."
Zelikow's focus was on what he calls 'searing' or 'moulding' events [that] take on 'transcendental' importance and, therefore, retain their power even as the experience generation passes from the scene."
In Rise of the Vulcans (Viking, 2004), James Mann reports that when Richard Haass, a senior aide to Secretary of State Colin Powell and the director of policy planning at the State Department, drafted for the administration an overview of America’s national security strategy following the September 11, 2001 attacks, Dr. Rice, the national security advisor, "ordered that the document be completely rewritten. She thought the Bush administration needed something bolder, something that would represent a more dramatic break with the ideas of the past. Rice turned the writing over to her old colleague, University of Virginia Professor Philip Zelikow." This document, issued on September 17, 2002, is generally recognized as a significant document in the War on Terrorism.
en.wikipedia.org...
Originally posted by poloblack
Washington is chock full of useful idiots, and as I stated before, this guy speaks truth. Americans have no idea what Israel thinks of Americans. And how the hell is he helping the Iranian regime??? Give me a break. He's no nutter, and no disrespect intended, but if you think the two pieces of crap we have to choose from would have the balls to say what this guy said, then, my friend, maybe you should reconsider who the real nutter is.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Never heard of him. Obviously he is just a 'useful idiot' for the Iranian regime to use.
I'm glad he hasn't got a chance of being in the Oval office. We have enough problems
with the (D) and (R) who are running. We don't need a real nutter added to the field ...
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The fact is that 19 RADICAL MUSLIMS flew the planes into buildings full of people.
Originally posted by DJW001
Believe it or not, Merlin Miller actually is running for President. Here is his ranking, based on social media, from his own website:
Facebook rankings – 2012 Presidential candidates
(from Whiteout Press, as of 9/22/12):
Candidate (party) – Facebook ‘Likes’
Barack Obama (D) – 538,733
Gary Johnson (L) – 62,224
Mitt Romney (R) – 37,820
Jill Stein (G) – 22,834
Rocky Anderson (J) – 6,279
Roseanne Barr (PF) – 3,915
Virgil Goode (C) – 2,092
Stewart Alexander (S) – 1,677
Tom Hoefling (A) – 1,057
Merlin Miller (A3P) – 309
Andre Barnett (RP) – 197
Ed Noonan (AI) – 93
James Harris (SW) – 67
Jerry White (SE) – 57
merlinmiller2012.com...
(What happened to Ron Paul?)
Here is what he perceives to be one of his chief problems:
Merlin Miller has at times been criticized by racial and religious groups such as the Anti Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center. From an independent viewer’s perspective, it would appear that the guardians of minority rights have unjustly lumped Miller and the A3P into similar categories as some of America’s most notorious hate groups. And while Miller doesn’t hesitate to defend the rights of whites, Christians, Europeans and other non-protected groups, this author has not seen any evidence where the Presidential candidate has made any derogatory statements about other groups or demographics.
Blaming 9/11 on Zionists on Iranian TV will probably not help his image problem. Here is a typical post from a would-be supporter:
I filled out the volunteer form last week and only received a reply of attending an Oktoberfest.
As a New Jersey resident, I offered to give my help and support. Yet I see there are no rallies, campaign HQ or any semblance of a serious campaign.
Needless to say, I do not endorse this candidate or his opinions!
Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by OOOOOO
Rumsfeld never said there was any money missing
Read Link www.youtube.com...
There's a ;ot morethan that missiing, you wrong.
Originally posted by OOOOOO
From what I've seen if ATS is to denie ingnorance, we don't have a chance in hell.
1.The Government broke the law when they would not let the WTC be investagated by the experts, the people who design and build these great buildings.
2.The FBI said they would expose all the people who bought the Airline stock on a "PUT" short, never did.
3. What happened to all the Gold that was in WTC? Gone.
4.On 9/10 Rumfeild speak in front of Congress about the missing 2 + Trillion dollars, on 9/11 something hits the Pentagon in the exact spot where all the records of the missing 2 + Trillion dollars were kept.
5. If nothing to hide show airplane hitting Pentagon, nothing to hide why not put everyones mind at ease.
6.When Bush was told at the school what was going on he looked guilty as hell.
7. All you master minds why did builijg 7 go down??
8. 45 minutes to scramble our jets, what is this the barney and goober Airfarce.
9. What about memo,note Condalesa Rice had on her desk a month before it happened, Osama to hijack planes and crash in to building, some thing of this sort.
10. Constitution has been striped away, your right's are vanishing.
!!. I can't believe how stupid some of you people ae.
!1. Iran will not exist if they attack anyone, what are you stupid.
!2 Israel wants the temple mound back and won't stop till they get it
!3 Half of the people here are as stupid as the Germans before Hitler had the Parliment build burt and blammed the Commuist, so he could gain power.
!4. The United States Government hands were tied until 9/11, the needed to finish the pipe line in Afganistan, Sadam never rolled over so they needed to get back into Iraq. But after 9/11 the check book was wide open and we had a new enemeny, Russia was gone , China was our banker.
Talk about stupid
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Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by DarthFazer
reply to post by hellobruce
Rumsfeld never said there was any money missing
Time to eat Crow nom nom nom eat hearty
www.youtube.com...
Care to exactly where Rumsfeld said the money was missing in that video?
No, you cannot as he never said it was missing. Have you even watched the video?
Originally posted by haven123
what do you expect from a Iranian tv interview
Originally posted by Sinfulknowledge
meaning the DOD can not verify were the money went, in other words its missing.
MEANING THE MONEY IS MISSING
POOR EFFIN GUY
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by synapsis
US presidential candidate for November election Merlin Miller says Israel was directly involved in 9-11 and zionists control the US politics . In an interview with Press TV he revealed such informations . September 9-11 incident has always been part of the conspiracy theory , Listen here what he has to say .
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He's got my vote
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by poloblack
This guy is telling the truth, .
Really? He says Israel did 9-11 and he is 'telling the truth' according to you.
Got some credible proof of that? Nope. Didnt' think so.
The fact is that 19 RADICAL MUSLIMS flew the planes into buildings full of people.
RADICAL MUSLIMS. Not Israel.
Originally posted by loOranks
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by synapsis
US presidential candidate for November election Merlin Miller says Israel was directly involved in 9-11 and zionists control the US politics . In an interview with Press TV he revealed such informations . September 9-11 incident has always been part of the conspiracy theory , Listen here what he has to say .
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He's got my vote
Did you read what the guy stands for, besides Israel, to make such a comment ? Are you also having issues with inter-racial mariages as Miller does? Do you also take inspiration from the likes of Kevin B. MacDonald as Miller does?