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Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by synapsis
It wasn't just the Mossad (Isreali "art students") involved. There had to be collusion with the CIA, and the FBI who refused to investigate the hijackers patsies, some of whom were housed at appartments rented to them by FBI agents. The Saudi hijacker patsies were basically escorted into the country, trained, housed and followed, all the way to the "Big Wedding" which coincided with the War Games operations which served as a smokescreen to ensure the success of the black-op psyop.
Originally posted by haven123
what do you expect from a iranian tv interview
Originally posted by DelMarvel
Anyone pointed out yet that Merlin Miller is a white supremacist?
Originally posted by MajorKarma
Originally posted by DelMarvel
Anyone pointed out yet that Merlin Miller is a white supremacist?
B S and had you actually listened to his interview you would know saying so is only going to be believed by ignorant dregs like you.
He is not a White Supremest, is is a true American and you...your like the fleas on a dog.
2012 presidential election In January 2012, the American Third Position Party announced Merlin Miller as its presidential nominee for the 2012 presidential election. Virginia Abernethy was announced as his running mate. [29]
Originally posted by something wicked
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by synapsis
It wasn't just the Mossad (Isreali "art students") involved. There had to be collusion with the CIA, and the FBI who refused to investigate the hijackers patsies, some of whom were housed at appartments rented to them by FBI agents. The Saudi hijacker patsies were basically escorted into the country, trained, housed and followed, all the way to the "Big Wedding" which coincided with the War Games operations which served as a smokescreen to ensure the success of the black-op psyop.
All I'm sure captured in blogs where people misrepresent information as facts and end up getting repeated again and again on here until they are accepted as facts rather than opinions people have spun?
If you would like to post your links to this, feel free, but they will all be as unsubstantiated as the regular youtube crap that appears on ATS.
Originally posted by DelMarvel
Anyone pointed out yet that Merlin Miller is a white supremacist?
Originally posted by antonia
Oh lord, people throw their weight behind someone and don't even bother to check it out. This Miller is running with the American Third Position party.
en.wikipedia.org...
They are a known White Power group Good luck with that non-white folks.
“The American Third Position exists to represent the political interests of White Americans.”
- American Third Position website
american3rdposition.com...
american3rdposition.com...
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
Originally posted by something wicked
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by synapsis
It wasn't just the Mossad (Isreali "art students") involved. There had to be collusion with the CIA, and the FBI who refused to investigate the hijackers patsies, some of whom were housed at appartments rented to them by FBI agents. The Saudi hijacker patsies were basically escorted into the country, trained, housed and followed, all the way to the "Big Wedding" which coincided with the War Games operations which served as a smokescreen to ensure the success of the black-op psyop.
All I'm sure captured in blogs where people misrepresent information as facts and end up getting repeated again and again on here until they are accepted as facts rather than opinions people have spun?
If you would like to post your links to this, feel free, but they will all be as unsubstantiated as the regular youtube crap that appears on ATS.
Much of the info can be found here
www.historycommons.org...
Edit to add: There was no official INVESTIGATION, so the pieces of info put together and assembled by independant researchers are largely the only remaining historical record of events and reports surrounding 9/11.
Future generations looking back will be grateful for that effort, so that something of value might be learned from it.
edit on 4-10-2012 by NewAgeMan because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by something wicked
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
Originally posted by something wicked
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by synapsis
It wasn't just the Mossad (Isreali "art students") involved. There had to be collusion with the CIA, and the FBI who refused to investigate the hijackers patsies, some of whom were housed at appartments rented to them by FBI agents. The Saudi hijacker patsies were basically escorted into the country, trained, housed and followed, all the way to the "Big Wedding" which coincided with the War Games operations which served as a smokescreen to ensure the success of the black-op psyop.
All I'm sure captured in blogs where people misrepresent information as facts and end up getting repeated again and again on here until they are accepted as facts rather than opinions people have spun?
If you would like to post your links to this, feel free, but they will all be as unsubstantiated as the regular youtube crap that appears on ATS.
Much of the info can be found here
www.historycommons.org...
Edit to add: There was no official INVESTIGATION, so the pieces of info put together and assembled by independant researchers are largely the only remaining historical record of events and reports surrounding 9/11.
Future generations looking back will be grateful for that effort, so that something of value might be learned from it.
edit on 4-10-2012 by NewAgeMan because: (no reason given)
I repeat my point. The link you provided is selling its opinion.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
Originally posted by something wicked
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
Originally posted by something wicked
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by synapsis
It wasn't just the Mossad (Isreali "art students") involved. There had to be collusion with the CIA, and the FBI who refused to investigate the hijackers patsies, some of whom were housed at appartments rented to them by FBI agents. The Saudi hijacker patsies were basically escorted into the country, trained, housed and followed, all the way to the "Big Wedding" which coincided with the War Games operations which served as a smokescreen to ensure the success of the black-op psyop.
All I'm sure captured in blogs where people misrepresent information as facts and end up getting repeated again and again on here until they are accepted as facts rather than opinions people have spun?
If you would like to post your links to this, feel free, but they will all be as unsubstantiated as the regular youtube crap that appears on ATS.
Much of the info can be found here
www.historycommons.org...
Edit to add: There was no official INVESTIGATION, so the pieces of info put together and assembled by independant researchers are largely the only remaining historical record of events and reports surrounding 9/11.
Future generations looking back will be grateful for that effort, so that something of value might be learned from it.
edit on 4-10-2012 by NewAgeMan because: (no reason given)
I repeat my point. The link you provided is selling its opinion.
Um..you'd have to actually spend some time in there reviewing the info before making that assessment. Everything in there is well sourced and factual. Go take a look before ASSUMING why don't you?
Originally posted by DelMarvel
Anyone pointed out yet that Merlin Miller is a white supremacist?
Originally posted by filosophia
I didn't see a swastika tattooed on his forehead,.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by something wicked
Ah.. that's not actually the way the info is presented, but you couldn't know that without actually reviewing the articles there to see how they're sourced and put together.
OTOH, there's the 9/11 Commission Report, which is as far as I know, the only "official" "historical" record of the event which in the words of Zelikow himself is more of a "narrative" or a story than an actual historical accounting of events and on that note, you might be well served to research Zelikow's biography and his writings pre-9/11 to understand why he was charged with creating the official "narrative" for 9/11.. you might be rather taken aback..
Originally posted by something wicked
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
OTOH, there's the 9/11 Commission Report, which is as far as I know, the only "official" "historical" record of the event which in the words of Zelikow himself is more of a "narrative" or a story than an actual historical accounting of events and on that note, you might be well served to research Zelikow's biography and his writings pre-9/11 to understand why he was charged with creating the official "narrative" for 9/11.. you might be rather taken aback..
Hi, no, not really, why would I be taken aback?
Zelikow
The idea of 'public presumption'," he explained, "is akin to [the] notion of 'public myth' but without the negative implication sometimes invoked by the word 'myth.'
Such presumptions are beliefs (1) thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and (2) shared in common within the relevant political community."
So Zelikow, the guy who wrote The 9/11 Commission Report, was an expert in how to misuse public trust and create PUBLIC MYTHS.
If 9/11 was nothing but a huge HOAX, you would naturally expect that the event itself would have to be perfectly scripted.
In 1998, Zelikow actually wrote Catastrophic Terrorism about imagining "the transformative event" three years before 9/11.
Here are Zelikow's 1998 words. Readers should imagine the possibilities for themselves, because the most serious constraint on current policy is lack of imagination.
An act of catastrophic terrorism that killed thousands or tens of thousands of people and/or disrupted the necessities of life for hundreds of thousands, or even millions, would be a watershed event in America's history.
It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented for peacetime and undermine Americans' fundamental sense of security within their own borders in a manner akin to the 1949 Soviet atomic bomb test, or perhaps even worse.
Constitutional liberties would be challenged as the United States sought to protect itself from further attacks by pressing against allowable limits in surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects, and the use of deadly force. More violence would follow, either as other terrorists seek to imitate this great "success" or as the United States strikes out at those considered responsible.
Like Pearl Harbor, such an event would divide our past and future into a "before" and "after."
The effort and resources we devote to averting or containing this threat now, in the "before" period, will seem woeful, even pathetic, when compared to what will happen "after."
Philip D. Zelikow
www.ksg.harvard.edu...
"... if the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center had succeeded, the resulting horror and chaos would have exceeded our ability to describe it. Such an act of catastrophic terrorism would be a watershed even in American history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America's fundamental sense of security..Like Pearl Harbor, the event would divide our past and future into a before and after. The United States might respond with.."
~ Philip Zelikow, pre-9/11
While at Harvard he worked with Ernest May and Richard Neustadt on the use, and misuse, of history in policymaking. They observed, as Zelikow noted in his own words, that "contemporary" history is "defined functionally by those critical people and events that go into forming the public's presumptions about its immediate past. The idea of 'public presumption'," he explained, "is akin to William McNeill's notion of 'public myth' but without the negative implication sometimes invoked by the word 'myth.' Such presumptions are beliefs (1) thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and (2) shared in common within the relevant political community."
Zelikow's focus was on what he calls 'searing' or 'moulding' events [that] take on 'transcendental' importance and, therefore, retain their power even as the experience generation passes from the scene."
In Rise of the Vulcans (Viking, 2004), James Mann reports that when Richard Haass, a senior aide to Secretary of State Colin Powell and the director of policy planning at the State Department, drafted for the administration an overview of America’s national security strategy following the September 11, 2001 attacks, Dr. Rice, the national security advisor, "ordered that the document be completely rewritten. She thought the Bush administration needed something bolder, something that would represent a more dramatic break with the ideas of the past. Rice turned the writing over to her old colleague, University of Virginia Professor Philip Zelikow." This document, issued on September 17, 2002, is generally recognized as a significant document in the War on Terrorism.
en.wikipedia.org...