Evolution Now Dead. 30 Papers Suggest DNA is Encoded Intelligently

reply to post by ResearchEverything777


So you're just gonna ignore that the bible is demonstrably wrong in hundreds of cases and happily assign numbers to it anyway?

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by ResearchEverything777

 

So you're just gonna ignore that the bible is demonstrably wrong in hundreds of cases and happily assign numbers to it anyway?

Faith is, by definition, irrational. The real issue is trying to justify something irrational. Obviously only a deeply irrational system could be used for such a purpose.

Wouldn't it make more sense to use Hebrew to do this? The original bible wasn't written in English, so it seems a bit silly to use English based letters and claim there is code within.

reply to post by Barcs

Wouldn't it make more sense to use Hebrew to do this? The original bible wasn't written in English, so it seems a bit silly to use English based letters and claim there is code within.

Ah, brilliant suggestion!

Obviously, use Hebrew code for a Hebrew script...

Some DNA / Tabernacle links...

reply to post by UncleMikey


Of course apart from assigning random numbers to things, one could obviously do the same thing with religious symbols. Claiming bird wings are suddenly DNA strands...sure, makes perfect sense

reply to post by EnochWasRight


First of all Evolution is NOT a scientific theory, it fails the required falsafiability that is the litmus test for judging an investigation to be scientific. It's also has no predictable value. The only thing that claims to be obvious about it is that it has created over a billion species, but is not said to be called a creator. I'm sorry but anything that creates over a billion species, is a creator, no matter how you look at it. The only difference here is evolution claims to be random and unpredictable, while a creator would have intent. I'm sorry but anything that has made over a billion species didn't do it by accident, and if you believe otherwise, then your just being nieve.

There is obviously intent and direction in all of this, if there wasn't, we would have a much higher failure rate in attempts of life than we do. We would also have a lot more species that share more things then they do. And just becuase species share parts of DNA is NOT proof of relation. Just because a monkey can learn to sit at a camp fire and roast marshmallows is also not proof that he is related to humans, it simply means he can learn.

Second, I already stated that DNA findings about ADHD have proven evolution to be false. news.discovery.com...
It's documented that ADHD changes our DNA, it was brought to my attention that this is an epi-genetic change therfore doesn't apply. I'm sorry but DNA is ALWAYS part of a living organisim, there is never a point that DNA is just out in La La land or limbo for evolution to make its move. The ADHD bit is a new find which means that prior to this, evolutionists were recognizing this change as part of evolution. You tell me, is it evolution when my friends mom smoked while pregnant, passing on ADHD changes into his genetics?: I think not, and will say that pretty soon, all changes will be able to be recognized for what they truly are and not the mistaken identity of evolution.

I also proved on several other threads that there is more to this picture based on what I coined as "Target food." People were real quick to argue the differences about diet and how humans have documented it as such. Totaly overlooking and missing the point that it doesn't matter what I claim a species eats, the fact is it eats what it eats and there is an obvious system to that. Target food is the idea that all species are suppose to have what you would call, for lack of a better term, Intended food. Yes Intended, it appears that not only are we suppose to have a specific foods, but there is also an identifiable pattern when this fails, and its consistant with all species, tested and proven. Humans have no target food, this is apparent because of severel reasons. We have such a large menu, and we eat just about anything, and we eat from all food groups as well. What a shocker that the bible also tells us that nothing from our home was brought to earth, In other words, our food isn't here. This means that the food we eat wasn't intended for us, this is why we have a plethora of problems that we do with diet..... all the way to it affecting our health.

The reason we are heading into the 6th largest extinction is because god was also kind enough to claim to have provided us with every living animal, certainly from other planets. The problem is that you CANT do that. It forces extinctions caused from apex preditors. This rule applys to everything that was brought here. Scientists are baffled by this but don't realize that it's only because they are first making the wrong assumption that all this life is suppose to be here to begin with, and its not.

Evolution has been accepted mostly in places where lack of a better explanation is offered. As I explained with ADHD, its obviously wrong. I'm still waiting for an explanation about how it is that flagellum (gears and sprockets) Evolved.

The chances are too high that all of this came from other planets, just recently they have found yet another planet that could inhabit life.
#1. is 0.92 by comparison to earths size, located Sep 2010 named Gliese 581 g.
#2. is 0.85 by comparison to earths size, located Nov 2011 named Gliese 667C c.
#3 Is 0.81 by comparison to earths size, located Dec 2011 named Kepler 22b.
#4 Is 0.77 by comparison to earths size, located Sep 2011, named HD 85512 b.
#5 Is 0.73 by comparison to earths size, located Sep 2012, named Gilese 163 c.
#6 Is 0.72 by comparison to earths size, located Apr 2007, named Gilese 581 d.

reply to post by itsthetooth

First of all Evolution is NOT a scientific theory...

Oh tooth, can't even get the first sentence right?

As most of the time, you are 100% wrong.

How about you spend a little less time spreading lies and a bit more time trying to back up your own bat# crazy mini-religion with facts for a change?

I won't get into your "target food" nonsense again because while you are demonstrably too brainwashed to understand, I recon the average reader on here understands why arguing against evolution with a MADE UP WORD and an ARBITRARY DEFINITION is beyond laughable

As for ADHD, you are still misrepresenting that study ON PURPOSE even though it was made clear to you that this is utter nonsense. It doesn't claim ADHD changes DNA, it says that SOME (but not all) people diagnosed with ADHD show a common DNA trait. Of course you simply keep ignoring that because it doesn't fit your laughable ancient alien theory

reply to post by MrXYZ

Oh tooth, can't even get the first sentence right?

As most of the time, you are 100% wrong.

How about you spend a little less time spreading lies and a bit more time trying to back up your own bat# crazy mini-religion with facts for a change?

Not a single person has ever been able to dissprove the idea that we are not from earth, as wrong.

You have assumptions that all life is related, and related here on earth, but you assumptions don't prove we are all from here. Your also ignoring several historical documents that claim otherwise, including the bible.

I won't get into your "target food" nonsense again because while you are demonstrably too brainwashed to understand, I recon the average reader on here understands why arguing against evolution with a MADE UP WORD and an ARBITRARY DEFINITION is beyond laughable

Target food is more than a made up term, its a realized real event. Your willing to admit that everything needs food, your willing to admit that nutrients can vary from food to food, but you blind to the fact that there is actuall intent and order to it all.

As for ADHD, you are still misrepresenting that study ON PURPOSE even though it was made clear to you that this is utter nonsense. It doesn't claim ADHD changes DNA, it says that SOME (but not all) people diagnosed with ADHD show a common DNA trait. Of course you simply keep ignoring that because it doesn't fit your laughable ancient alien theory

Well then you must be suffereing from selective amnesia, as whats written says otherwise.

ADHD

Children with ADHD were more likely to have small but important segments of DNA that were either missing or duplicated in their genome compared to the "control" group.

"ADHD is not caused by a single genetic change but is likely caused by a number of genetic changes, including CNVs, interacting with as-yet unidentified environmental factors," said fellow researcher Kate Langley.

So what do you think they mean by genetic changes? Anytime there are genetic changes, they are referrng to DNA changes, what else did you think they meant?

And it probably is a good idea that you stay away from the subject of Target food, you wouldn't want to look foolish. It's more than obvious that Target food exists. Your demonstrably wrong.

You can continue to believe that over a billion species were created as a fluke accident, but you would have to be nieve in doing so. Anytime something creates over a billion species, there is obviously intent and direction behind it, and you don't have to be genius to see that. There are just a few hundred to many things that say your wrong.

ADHD is likely caused by a number of genetic changes brought on by missing segments of genes, say scientists

I think we definitely have proof of this much at least. Most of those that want evolution to be true so desperately and for reasons no one knows individually. Wouldn't except the proof of God, if it were him walking up and smacking them in the face. They must have something to fear.

How about you spend a little less time spreading lies and a bit more time trying to back up your own bat# crazy mini-religion with facts for a change?

Why resort to this X ?

Nothing any one can say about a religion including evolution sounds crazier than the one that's on deck or the one after that. Creation itself is an unbelievably fantastic mind boggling occurrence. Stands to reason that it's explanation is going to sound that way if you ask me. I wouldn't believe the most simple explanations first.

reply to post by MrXYZ

So you're just gonna ignore that the bible is demonstrably wrong in hundreds of cases and happily assign numbers to it anyway?

How can you get on here and lie like that?

I have already indicated to you on several occasions that you will NEVER be able to dismiss the events in the bible untill they are able to retest them with the supernatural element present. If you know anything about science, you know that testing things has to be done in the same way they originally occured.

I wish you the best of luck on gathering up these supernatural elements.

Originally posted by randyvs
I think we definitely have proof this much at least. Most of those that want evolution to be true so desperately and for reasons no one knows individually. Wouldn't except the proof of God, if it were him walking up and smacking them in the face. They must have something to fear.

How about you spend a little less time spreading lies and a bit more time trying to back up your own bat# crazy mini-religion with facts for a change?

Why resort to this X ?

Nothing any one can say about a religion including evolution sounds crazier than the one that's on deck or the one after that. Creation itself is an unbelievably fantastic mind boggling occurrence. Stands to reason that it's explanation is going to sound that way if you ask me. I wouldn't believe the most simple explanations first.

edit on 21-10-2012 by randyvs because: (no reason given)

Read some of tooth's other posts

He argues his case by making up words and completely lying about scientific studies. There's no nicer way to say it, he's like a snake oil salesman

For crying out loud, one of his main arguments is a MADE UP WORD that he gave a completely random definition...and he then claimed that's somehow a prerequisite for evolution. Crazy...utterly crazy...and there's really no other way to put it

Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by MrXYZ

 

So you're just gonna ignore that the bible is demonstrably wrong in hundreds of cases and happily assign numbers to it anyway?

How can you get on here and lie like that?

I have already indicated to you on several occasions that you will NEVER be able to dismiss the events in the bible untill they are able to retest them with the supernatural element present. If you know anything about science, you know that testing things has to be done in the same way they originally occured.

I wish you the best of luck on gathering up these supernatural elements.

In other words: "Magic makes the impossible possible!"

We know of hundreds of cases where the bible is DEMONSTRABLY wrong: LINK

Of course your reaction to this is (as always):



And no, "magic makes it possible" isn't a valid argument...even if you pretend the "supernatural" is anything different than "magic"

stupid double post...

reply to post by itsthetooth

Not a single person has ever been able to dissprove the idea that we are not from earth, as wrong.

And no one has ever presented evidence that we aren't from earth...and everything we DO know about biology suggests we are from earth just like every other life form

Your point?

You have assumptions that all life is related, and related here on earth, but you assumptions don't prove we are all from here. Your also ignoring several historical documents that claim otherwise, including the bible.

The bible is only proof of what people back then believed based on their (compared to today) limited knowledge. Newsflash: Just because it's written in the bible doesn't automatically make it true!!

Target food is more than a made up term, its a realized real event. Your willing to admit that everything needs food, your willing to admit that nutrients can vary from food to food, but you blind to the fact that there is actuall intent and order to it all.

You completely made up that word

I guess if one keeps on using a made up word long enough it becomes reality, right?

Regarding ADHD, all they know so far is that some people (but not all!!) with ADHD show some common genetic traits that have an influence on the disease. The scientific article doesn't claim they have pinpointed what exactly causes ADHD, contrary to what you're trying to say when you repeat your lie

reply to post by MrXYZ

And no one has ever presented evidence that we aren't from earth...and everything we DO know about biology suggests we are from earth just like every other life form

Your delusional, every fact that I have pointed out including the historical documentation that is listed in the bible clearly proves we aren't from here.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that when the bible tells you that earth is not your home, that its not your home.

As far as made up terms, ALL terms we deal with today are made up, in case you didn't know, someone at some point had to create them. Just because I chose one to fit the findings doesn't mean its any less real. Besides there still hasn't been a single thing to disprove the idea of Target food, in addition to which evolution fails to explain how it is that a species just seems to know what they are suppose to eat, and the fact that it also happens to also be the healthiest thing for them when they are actually eating a target food. Evolution has failed as it never explained how food evolves, much less how it would know how to evolve into exactly what each species needs.

Your also once again over looking the fact that humans have to labratory test food to find out its content values, but somehow your trying to tell me that animals just are smart enough to guess whats good for them. In addition, there is no test period with food for animals, they seem to know exactly what they need to eat. Call it magic if you want, but that is the cold hard facts.

There is never a test period where they try different food, unless they are starving from lack of target food. So as you can see, your are obviously WRONG. There is nothing made up about the idea of Target food, its an observed event. Just because you choose to ignore the facts, doesn't mean its any less real.

Your willing to admit that all species need specific values and elements to survive, but your not willing to admit that the fact that they seem to be available, seems to be magic in itself. Your willing to admit that animals eat food, and seem to know what is good for them, yet they have no tests or labratory coats that they wear. Target food is obvious, Cows don't eat dogs and Lions don't eat trees. You seriously need to open your eyes to the observed facts in front of you.

reply to post by MrXYZ

I guess if one keeps on using a made up word long enough it becomes reality, right?

Regarding ADHD, all they know so far is that some people (but not all!!) with ADHD show some common genetic traits that have an influence on the disease. The scientific article doesn't claim they have pinpointed what exactly causes ADHD, contrary to what you're trying to say when you repeat your lie

I have already shared this with you but I guess it just falls on blind eyes.

Lead linked

Lead linked

Seriously, are you going to read it this time?

Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by MrXYZ

 

I guess if one keeps on using a made up word long enough it becomes reality, right?

Regarding ADHD, all they know so far is that some people (but not all!!) with ADHD show some common genetic traits that have an influence on the disease. The scientific article doesn't claim they have pinpointed what exactly causes ADHD, contrary to what you're trying to say when you repeat your lie

I have already shared this with you but I guess it just falls on blind eyes.

Lead linked

Lead linked

Seriously, are you going to read it this time?

If you actually read this you realise that it doesn't support your claims

Instead you simply read the heading and draw conclusions that fit your ridiculous mini-religion.

Won't get into target food again, discussing a made up word is just too plain dumb....as is your claim that the bible is objective evidence, which is beyond ridiculous. I really fear for our education system given your posts.

reply to post by MrXYZ

If you actually read this you realise that it doesn't support your claims

Instead you simply read the heading and draw conclusions that fit your ridiculous mini-religion.

Won't get into target food again, discussing a made up word is just too plain dumb....as is your claim that the bible is objective evidence, which is beyond ridiculous. I really fear for our education system given your posts.

Which would obviously be why your not getting it, you have to read those two and ...

Dna linked

It just goes to show you that unless someone spells it out for you, you don't have the ability to understand whats going on.

The term target food might be a made up term but the observation isn't. As I have already proven, the bible is listed as a historical document. If it were a fairy tale, it wouldn't be.

By the way, the events in the bible have already been explained to you, as supernaturl events. The definition of the term supernatural has also been explained to you. Supernatural things are not bound to the elements of science.

It is YOU that chooses to ignore that and crack jokes that its magic so no explanation is needed, yet I don't see you being able to disprove any of it either.