Jesus was a "Muslim"

Islam pretends to be "The Religion of Peace" while Jesus is the REAL Prince of Peace.

Religion is a massive LIE masquerading as the truth.

Religion will NEVER tell you the TRUTH...

reply to post by Murgatroid


Great post and so true. I don't follow a Religion, they all have their flaws in belief, who to trust?

Christianity is not a religion but a Reality. Great post there.

Originally posted by luciddream
How dare you!? How dare you call Jesus, a man with fair skin, blonde straight hair and blue yes, who happens to be born in middle east 2000 yrs ago, where everyone is tanned, with curled hair and brown eyes, a Muslim!?

Jesus was white?

Kinda amazing they had hair straighteners back then too...

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lol Sarcasm is hard to do online , i guess i should have used lot of :

Originally posted by luciddream
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lol Sarcasm is hard to do online

, i guess i should have used lot of

:

Especially here my friend...

I figured you were being sarcastic, but you never know on ATS

Originally posted by shuar911

In Arabic, the word “Islam” means submission or surrender - however, it was derived from the root word “salam”. From this root word, you can also derive the words peace and safety. Many people feel that Islam implies some sort of enslavement to Allah, but others find it more helpful to define the word “Islam” as surrender.

Many religions have a concept of surrender to God. In Jewish history, when the ancient Hebrews obeyed God’s commands, they had a long period of prosperity and stability.

In Christianity, surrendering to God is a way of putting your life into more capable hands – in fact, Jesus asked many of his disciples to surrender their livelihoods and follow him.

So, if we look at the word ‘Islam’ in this way, we can understand why obeying Allah’s commands and trusting in Allah’s wisdom could bring about peace for a Muslim.

The word does not represent a one-sided relationship, where the believer is enslaved to Allah. Rather, the word Islam indicates a covenant between Allah and his followers, where a Muslim surrenders his or her will to Allah in return for peace or safety.

The Holy Quran is the coninuation of the same process that started with Patriarch Abraham and continued with Prophet Moses and Jesus. For moslems , belief in Torah and Bible is compulsory. Followers of Patriarch Abraham were called as "moslemeen" and the same applies to the followers of Moses and Jesus as also Prophet Mohammed, who was the last of the Prophets. The followers of Prophets Moses, Jesus and Mohammed belong to the same stream of celestial inspiration that started with Abraham but with different codes of conduct.

It means submission, not surrender. And when people take the shahada, what they are really saying "allah and his apostle", which means surrender and be submitted, or else. Why would Mohammed say "his apostle", tell people to follow allah, if he includes himself in that? He never says "submit to allah" only, no, he wants you to submit to him as well.

This man is apparently Chrislamic, which the Bible said would happen in the last days "deceive the very elect, if possible". We can see it has happened, those who believe themselves to be elect, have been deceived.

KJV Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Deceived, as the Bible said would happen.

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I thought at first this was a joke and after skimming through this
post,I know it is one.

Originally posted by Akragon

Originally posted by luciddream
How dare you!? How dare you call Jesus, a man with fair skin, blonde straight hair and blue yes, who happens to be born in middle east 2000 yrs ago, where everyone is tanned, with curled hair and brown eyes, a Muslim!?

Jesus was white?

Kinda amazing they had hair straighteners back then too...

They were tanned too? Was there a thriving tanning bed business back then? Did they hang out on the beach, soaking up the sun?

Don't mess with the Zohan!

Originally posted by Awen24

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Lol. A Muslim who said the greatest command in the Bible is to love YHVH.

I've officially heard everything now, I am at peace.

edit on 1-10-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)

A *Jewish* Muslim...
don't forget that part.

I wonder what happens when Jesus reads this hadith:

The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him

...wait. If Jesus was a Jewish Muslim, wouldn't he logically have to kill himself?

The hadith you quoted comes from the last hour or if you prefer judgment day. Seeing how Jesus is the one leading the Muslims he would do the killing himself because didn't he say that he would return with a sword?

"I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" (Gospel of Matthew 10:34)

Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by Awen24

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Lol. A Muslim who said the greatest command in the Bible is to love YHVH.

I've officially heard everything now, I am at peace.

edit on 1-10-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)

A *Jewish* Muslim...
don't forget that part.

I wonder what happens when Jesus reads this hadith:

The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him

...wait. If Jesus was a Jewish Muslim, wouldn't he logically have to kill himself?

The hadith you quoted comes from the last hour or if you prefer judgment day. Seeing how Jesus is the one leading the Muslims he would do the killing himself because didn't he say that he would return with a sword?

"I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" (Gospel of Matthew 10:34)

Yes, and that sword is defined as the word of God. When Jesus does come back, it will be with a physical sword and yes, to destroy all the evil people. Yes, the next time. The first time He came as the Word of God.

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Yeah, he said it - but wait! According to whom? Who wrote that line down? Who SAYS that that person wrote that line down?

Yellow journalism, anybody? We have NOT A DAMN BIT OF PROOF that Jesus actually said those words. We only know that somebody heard from somebody else that he said those words, so that 'somebody' wrote it down. Or something like that.

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Originally posted by Awen24

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Lol. A Muslim who said the greatest command in the Bible is to love YHVH.

I've officially heard everything now, I am at peace.

edit on 1-10-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)

A *Jewish* Muslim...
don't forget that part.

I wonder what happens when Jesus reads this hadith:

The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him

...wait. If Jesus was a Jewish Muslim, wouldn't he logically have to kill himself?

And what do you think he did, exactly? Handed himself over to the people he knew would kill him?

That doesn't count as suicide?

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

Yeah, he said it - but wait! According to whom? Who wrote that line down? Who SAYS that that person wrote that line down?

Yellow journalism, anybody? We have NOT A DAMN BIT OF PROOF that Jesus actually said those words. We only know that somebody heard from somebody else that he said those words, so that 'somebody' wrote it down. Or something like that.

3 different first hand accounts, what more do you want. That easily meets the burden of proof.

Surah Imran 3:52: “When Jesus found Unbelief on their part He said: “Who will be My helpers to (the work of) Allah?” Said the disciples: “We are Allah’s helpers: We believe in Allah, and do thou bear witness that we are Muslims.”

Surah Maidah 5:117: “Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, ‘worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord’; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things.

Mary returns to her people after the birth, whereupon she is scandalized. She points to her newborn baby and he speaks to the accusers from his cradle,

[Behold, I am a servant of God. He has vouchsafed unto me revelation and made me a prophet, and made me blessed wherever I may be; and He has enjoyed upon me prayer and charity as long as I shall live… Hence, peace was upon me on the day I was born, and will be upon me on the day of my death, and on the day when I shall be raised to life again.] (Maryam 19: 30-3).

This is Jesus’ first miracle.

From this amazing beginning, Jesus Christ grows up to be a noble man. He establishes his mission as an apostle to the Children of Israel. And God’s promise that he would perform other miracles is fulfilled. He heals the blind and the leper, and brings the dead back to life. He performs these miracles “all by God’s leave,” according to the Quran. God gave Jesus the power to perform miracles, as opposed to the miracles being evidence of Jesus’ divine status.

Jesus is mentioned in the Quran more than is Muhammad. He is called the ‘Word of God’ and the ‘Spirit of God’, but most often, ‘the son of Mary’. In the Quranic narrative he is not crucified.

Muslim Jesus

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I think is Jesus existed, it dont rly matter what he was... All religions is leading to the same place...
Its just teachings of life. Do good, be good, share, love. aint hard, we all know this.

Never doubted that fact.
Jesus worshipped One God,so did Abraham and Moses(peace be upon them all)
Anyone who submits completely to God is a muslim,
like Jesus(pbuh)said "love God with all your heart,mind & strength"
and "not my will but the will of our Father in heaven be done"

Then Jesus also had a time machine because Islam came along about 600 years after the death of Jesus.

Jesus was a Jew, probably of a lesser sect called the Nazarenes, and possibly even connected to the Zealots. He was cited as a descendant of David, thus he followed Mosaic or, if you prefer, Abrahamic doctrine and dogma. Well, he didn't follow it well enough for them not to murder him for violating it, but that's something for Mel Gibson to opine about - not me.

Now if you're asserting that both Christianity and Islam have their roots in Judaism. Then I'll agree. But, otherwise? not so much.

~Heff

jesus was a person who done good for people back then like mother teresa etc.....no more

where is the proof of anymore?we,ve heard a story but have we seen any sign of a jesus or a god since then? its human nature that we want to believe in something other than what we know but its never happened and never will.

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The only people who can be fooled by chrislam are those who do not know the Word and what he teaches, Primarily christians who are spiritual infants and do not read their God given handbook the Holy Bible and i've seen this happen. I have heard many a christian try to spout at me that Allah is Yahweh, but Yahweh Elohim commanded his name be spoken to all the nations, while "Allah" hid his name from Muhammad, or more accurately, Allah never talked to Muhammad at all. God's name is not God and i have also heard many professing christians tell me his name is God which made my eyes pop out of their sockets that those people do not know Yeshua's pre-incarnate name.

Deja vu, i could swear i had already posted this exact response, it's happening more and more frequently where my dreams come true....

All of these posts and very few even mention a Muslim didn't exist until centuries later. Calling Jesus a Christian would be the same joke. Shows how many people on ATS know their stuff, especially the obvious facts.

How ridiculous. Everyone know Jesus was a Buddhist Morman!!
You gotta have an angle I guess.