Christian Does Not Equal Muslim

Originally posted by ollncasino
reply to post by TheBeatMasta

 

Its fair to say that he has done more than his fair share of sucking up to Islam, as evidenced by the video.

Its a bit embarrassing really to see an American President acting in such a manner.

He does a lot of toadding around for the leader of the most power nation on earth.

edit on 1-10-2012 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)

That is such a common but ill informed comment - do you know bowing in some societies is no different to shaking hands - shaking hands means you are not holding a sword, bowing means you trust the other person is not holding a sword and will not cut off your head. It's a measure of courtesy and trust. To call that toadying (which I think you meant) really says more about you than your president.

Abrahamic = all cut from same sullied cloth.

reply to post by ollncasino


Bush was in love

Muslims and christians are not the same beliefs and no muslim nation on earth loves Israel.Muslims will do the same thing to the U.S. as Israel and other places put up with.Turn everything into a politcal correct hypocrisy mess and corrupted government if they get all through our politics.

reply to post by ExNihilo


I don't care that he's a Muslim, a Satanist, a Cabalist, a FreeMason etc.

I do mind that he is a LIAR!

I mind even more that he is always throwing gas on the fires of religious differences and racism.

He's a TOOL. That offends me.

I'm not from a religious background at all. I really don't care what he worships. I suggest to all whom think this is an opportunity to discuss freedom of religion - that you are being played like fiddles. The agenda is to get you in a tizzy about religion so you'll be screaming to drink the blood of a God by the time they roll this world war out. Baaaaah! Baaaaah! OhhhhhhBaaaaahhhhhmaaaaaaa

After young Barack left his muslim homeland and came to America the next God he bowed to was a BONG!

Now who can argue with that? Tha man loves his Marijuana. He should just come out and say he's muslim.


Wait he did....many times.

Originally posted by Pervius
He should just come out and say he's muslim.


Wait he did....many times.

[Citation needed]

Originally posted by ollncasino
reply to post by TheBeatMasta

 

Its fair to say that he has done more than his fair share of sucking up to Islam, as evidenced by the video.

Its a bit embarrassing really to see an American President acting in such a manner.





He does a lot of toadding around for the leader of the most power nation on earth.

edit on 1-10-2012 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)

If you go and visit a foreign country, you have to show respect. This bowing is just a sign of respect and good manners, especially for the asian countries...
This shows a good businessman.

btw. I don't like Obama, but this is just how a good president should behave

reply to post by TheBeatMasta


To the fanatics of every label - be it class, creed, religion, nation, colour or every other thing you imagine...

Please convene a worldwide meeting in a place and beat each other to death with everything and anything and in any possibly creative way your beautiful, creative mind can come up with. Meanwhile, do inform proper media and do some good publicity so that the event will be covered as much as possible and cameras can be installed on the venue carefully placed so as not to miss any of the 'action'.

It also might be very useful to future generation if the video can be showed that this what happens. Good ones might see the horror and realise the stupidity and the other types like possible future fanatics might enjoy it and recreate it.

We might even have to conduct FAAM (Fanatics Association Annual Massacre). Cleaning up will be easy and it might stimulate economy and produce lot of jobs in media and so on. Surely after few years membership and annual event may die down slowly. But hey, i am expecting you will go in the 1st year. So you dont have to worry about that.

Good luck to you.

Cheers.

reply to post by TheBeatMasta


BeatMasta, I suspect Obama is either an Agnostic or an Atheist. That would be in keeping with his Leftist (Socialist/Communist) ideological upbringing with his mother and her parents.

I watched the whole video in the OP (almost 10 minutes) and did NOT see anything "doctored" -- but the content was edited into shape.

Obama is probably neither Christian nor Muslim. Since he has been on the career path of a professional politician since youth, Obama probably decided that he needed the Christian "cloak."

Rev. Wright's ("God damn America'") Trinity Church with its Black Liberation (Socialist) Theology was probably the least offensive to him and very useful in Chicago politics.

Obama's praise of past Muslim cultural accomplishments was a pandering, not only to Muslims, but to the Leftist "intellectuals" in the West. (See how politically correct Obama is!)

It would be surprising if Obama did not feel obligated to show respect for Islamic culture since both his father & stepfather were Muslim and his relatives in Kenya are Muslim.

Has his bowing to the Saudi king won Obama any points with Muslims abroad? Obama would be a real idiot if he thought so. I'm sure the Islamic world considers Obama a weak fool.

I read a rumor that Obama has been using back channels to reassure Iran that he (Obama) will not attack Iran.
I suspect that rumor may be true and it would explain why the Islamic world suddenly feels emboldened to attack US consulates. And why Obama refused to meet with Netanyahu.

Originally posted by EvilBat
I really don't care what religion a person is as long as they do their job right.

I would really like it if religion was separated from state
wait it all ready is and it still somehow it maters what someone is.

They need to reinforce that.

"Islam is a totalitarian political system disguised as a religion."

You better hope we never have a Muslim president: Islam has never separated mosque from State.

reply to post by _Phoenix_


So which is it, is the image manipulated, or am I seeing what I want? In both cases, you're wrong. The image is straight from Google Earth, so if anyone is doing the tampering, it's Google Earth, I imagine you aren't accusing them of that? As for me matrixing the image, I might have agreed with you, except the image of the clown is hidden everywhere, from hieroglyphs to cities. Where do you think the idea of the evil clown came from? Joker, It, Saw, the Illuminati card games, look at the new movie Sinister - the hidden clown who lives in the images. And on and on. I know it's tough to believe, but it's the truth.

Poor Christians getting butthurt over everything. You guys can't tolerate anything contradictory to your "faith" can you?

Originally posted by generik
i think the OP is trying to ask how can a person be a Christian. ie: Jesus is the SON of the living god, only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ. etc. as opposed to the Muslim belief that Jesus was just another proffet, and NOT the SON of GOD. rather incomparable with each other. so which is he a Christian OR a Muslim?

Actually, there are Christian sects (Unitarian Universalist, Unity, Church of Religious Science) that concede that Jesus is NOT the only "Son of God" and that other spiritual teachers (Buddha, Ram, Krishna, Lao Tsu, etc.) may offer genuine paths to God as well.

It's true that in Islam, Jesus is just another prophet. But I do NOT recognize Muhammad as a true prophet of God or even a genuine spiritual teacher. Muhammad was a politician who pretended to divine revelations.
And if you bother to read the Quran, you will discover just how thin those "divine" revelations were.

As for Obama, I doubt if he even believes in God. So I doubt if he's a genuine Christian or Muslim. Obama joined a church to network with his community and further his career.

reply to post by AuranVector


I can't believe I just read something that stupid. So is it the 11th commandment now? "Thou shall not be a Muslim, or Gnostic, or Atheist, or Pagan." ?

reply to post by OMsk3ptic

The second image certainly isn't "straight from google earth". Someone obviously edited it to make those lines more prominent. You know what those lines are? Roads. Macadam tarmac roads. Built over a thousand years after Muhammad was there. The circle where muslims are "praying in the centre of a clown nose"? That is the circular road around the Kaaba.
Here is the ACTUAL view:

Is it a bird?! Is it a butterfly? Is it a lady's dress? PERHAPS IT IS THE NUMBER 666 SOMEHOW!

...some people will come up with the silliest stuff....

reply to post by babloyi


The 2nd photo was traced right off Google Earth to show the image, obviously you can understand that. The weavers have had this all planned since the beginning. I guess I'm just imagining this too:



And watch for the movie Sinister - it's about the hidden clown.

Originally posted by skonaz

Ignorance does not equal denying ignorance ?

Its only due to the rampant christian extremism in the U.S and their lobbying power that any of your political leaders feel the need to "talk up" their level of involvement in the church anyway.
Let's just say for a moment that he did follow a muslim faith (which he clearly does not) why would you need god's help ?
Would that mean he was in someway evil or out to do you harm ?
Of course not.

also - THOUGH SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST YOUR NEIGHBOUR !!

"Let's just say for a moment that he did follow a muslim faith ...

Would that mean he was in someway evil or out to do you harm ?

Of course not."

This is a perfect example of how NAIVE the "politically correct" are. They're under the illusion that Islam is a religion instead of what it really is -- a totalitarian political system.

If Obama were Muslim, he would be an even greater disaster to the US than he already is.

For one thing, free speech is NOT allowed in Muslim countries. It's against the law to criticize either Muhammad or his Quran.

Originally posted by PeaceNLove123
reply to post by AuranVector

 

I can't believe I just read something that stupid. So is it the 11th commandment now? "Thou shall not be a Muslim, or Gnostic, or Atheist, or Pagan." ?

And where did I write or post that? I did NOT.

This is a perfect example of how people on the Left twist things to fit their agenda.

I have nothing against an Agnostic, or Gnostic, or Atheist, or Pagan being a US President.

reply to post by OMsk3ptic

Lets retread. You posted 2 pictures. Phoenix said "That second picture has obviously been tampered with". You said "The image is straight from Google Earth". I posted an image of what google earth shows, and now you are saying "The 2nd photo was traced right off Google Earth to show the image"? "Traced right off google earth"? What does that even mean. What it does mean is "That second picture has obviously been tampered with". Which is what Phoenix said.

Yeah, what I drew is the Mona Lisa, because I traced RIGHT OFF the image of the Mona Lisa I found!

Also, you can't imagine how hard I'm laughing right now at the idea of undercover illuminati clowns .