It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by smirnoffsky
reply to post by JohnnyAnonymous
Nice imagination! That was inspiring enough to make me pull myself out of my usual lurking hole and unleash my inner pareidolia
That's what I keep seeing the longer I stare at the image. Back to the lurking hole for me.
Originally posted by Springer
reply to post by JohnnyAnonymous
It would also be good to add that this shot is a little over 3 hours later than the "UO" shot. This one was taken around 12:30PM and the "UO" shot was taken around 09:13AM
Originally posted by cornucopia
my grandfather worked for nasa and helped create mufon, why are you humans not listening to me?
i KNOW we are not alone, never were
we are throughout this universe, life is everywhere
all is well, remember?
Originally posted by JohnnyAnonymous
As Springer has previously mentioned, I was sent the other photo that has the structure near the rock/cliff. This might help those that are interested in attempting to have a "scale of reference" in helping determine possible distance.
In this shot, the driver (who is silhouetted out), has turned the car around and the photographer has stood even further away to get a nice wide picture of the area. I should mention that the reason why the driver and the license of the vehicle has been removed is to protect their identity. Which I'll add was established and checked on prior to the final analysis. We would do the same for you if you ever stepped forward with something you wished to share but also remain anonymous. So this will be the only version of the photo available.
With that said... In this picture the goats are away and not in the shot, but the "structure" is clearly visible. I should also mention that because of the size of the original photograph and the limitations we have with compression codecs, "pixel blockiness" and the "moray effect" do exist in this photo. But I'll add that I've scanned the original photo "quite thoroughly" (section by section), and found no evidence of anything there other than some clouds. No mylar balloons, trash, birds, bugs, reflections, mirages or UFO's.
Originally posted by Druid42
I guess I'll just wait my turn in line.
I Have a premise, which doesn't violate any aspect of Jeff's analysis, but it depends on ATS members deciding on a focal distance.
I'll wait my turn in the queue, and build my case, and present my position when I have more facts.
My position remains that it is a lens reflection from the sunglasses. That's where I'm focusing my research.
Originally posted by JohnnyAnonymous
Ideas are great on paper, but to have a working model and template adds gravitas to back one's thought's and theories.
Originally posted by JohnnyAnonymous
Originally posted by Druid42
I guess I'll just wait my turn in line.
I Have a premise, which doesn't violate any aspect of Jeff's analysis, but it depends on ATS members deciding on a focal distance.
I'll wait my turn in the queue, and build my case, and present my position when I have more facts.
My position remains that it is a lens reflection from the sunglasses. That's where I'm focusing my research.
I've got a wonderful suggestion.. Since you have some reservations about pursuing other avenues which may add or diminish the credibility of the other theories... Why not work on trying to duplicate your theory?
Have you attempted to get the same results when using a camera out a rolled down window while wearing sunglasses? It seems that it would be a fairly simple task and definitely would add weight to your theory that you could then disclose to the membership.
Ideas are great on paper, but to have a working model and template adds gravitas to back one's thought's and theories.
I HAVE been working on my own theory, and have been experimenting with mirrors and lenses (digital, of course). To duplicate the parameters involved with this particular anomaly is beyond my capabilities. It's why this particular anomaly defies explanation, as of yet. The darkened spots on the anomaly are the inverse reflections of the goats beside the car. I am working, to that end, as the focus of my ability to refute this picture. When I can produce plausible evidence, I will present it. Till then, I will wait my turn in the queue. I stand firm on the UO being a reflection, close to the camera, not "out there". The UO is a reflection, from the Shooter's sunglasses, and reflects the goats with dark fur. The parameters, aye, will be decided.
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Originally posted by aynock
Originally posted by salmoneggs
You can add 15 multicoloured grid lines, talk of the trajectory of reflected angles and analyze contrasting proportions. It still looks exactly like a drop of water
water droplets tend to be round - the object clearly has a flat bottom - a drop falling straight down would show some distortion to the bottom caused by air pressure but the object looks too flat to be a droplet imo
if it is fluid it is definitely falling straight down though, so it's unlikely to be from the goats
Goat sweat goes up and comes down with lateral movement, like ballistics, when flung from the shake of the goats body.
It wouldn't shoot in a straight line from the goat to the vehicle.
Lateral velocity would elongate the miniscule fluid droplet and the ballistic characteristic of falling would flatten the bottom all at the same time.
If you don't like goat sweat than think wet jowl ejection or wet shaggy fur from a recent urination.
Originally posted by Springer
reply to post by UKWO1Phot
The goats are hiding the monument in the second picture, the rockfall is still there, just to the right (from our perspective) of the goats.
Springer...