Humongous, gassy halo found surrounding Milky Way

reply to post by new_here


Sounds as good as any theory posted so far.

Except the Heliosphere and Magnetosphere are magnetic fields or bubbles, where as this halo (as far as is known) is a cloud of hot gasses.

A magnetosphere is formed when a stream of charged particles, such as the solar wind, interacts with and is deflected by the magnetic field of a planet or similar body. Earth is surrounded by a magnetosphere, as are the other planets with intrinsic magnetic fields

The heliosphere is the immense magnetic bubble containing our solar system, solar wind, and the entire solar magnetic field.

Though it may end up being learned that it serves a similar purpose, It is not the same thing. But until more information is gathered and studied. Everything is just speculation at this point.

www.universetoday.com...

Here's one link..

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Originally posted by watchitburn
reply to post by XPLodER

 

Awe, Come on.

I am aware that this is still being investigated, and any theories given are just that. But you are obviously more familiar with the subject matter than most or all of us in this thread.

Refusing to share your ideas is just impolite.

i will as long as you dont laugh at me and realise this is ALL SUPPOSITION

extending from the polar regions of the black hole at the centre of our galaxy,
is a series of large twisted field lines that encompass the entire visible central portion of the galaxy

these field lines "channel" atoms that have been smashed to pieces by the gravitational forces close to the black hole, the feild lines travel away from the centre and away from the black hole to the "arms" in the spiral disc.

anything consuming energy will do so in a predictable way, (blackhole)
anything creating energy will also follow a predictable pattern (sun)


the idea im trying to present is that mass is redistributed as energy, the mass the black hole consumes,
is turned into energy and distributed back though feild lines to the suns in the galaxy through resonate vibration, and radiated by the sun back into the galaxy sphere by the suns.

i realise its hard to explain the feild lines in simple terms as we have yet to discover them, and they would be very difficult to measure,

example
electrostatic generator (vandergraph generator) = blackhole
tennis ball with tin foil wrapped around it suspended on insulating string = sun
generate a circular magnetic feild from the vandergraph to the tennis ball
and supply conductive "atoms" in a stream from vandergraph to tennis ball

the energy "induced" through space (air) by the vandergraph generator is stored in the tin foil (sun)
untill the stream of polerized conductive atoms allow a circut to form,
and the induced energy is disapated. from the tennis ball back to an oppositely charged surface.

or in the case of the sun radiated out as energy,
it is a combination of radiated energy and the magnetic feild lines that create the galaxy bubble IMHO

NOTE
i am not steven hawking and this is a theory and not very well defined,
and only an opinion

now you cant say im impolite


xploder

reply to post by XPLodER


I like it.

You explained it in an easily understandable manner. It is not too dissimilar from what I was thinking. With the black hole casting off matter near the event horizon. I did have to look up the Van de Graaff Generator to remember what it was though. But if you had gone into detail with lots of math you would have lost me.

Thank you for your hypothesis.
That wasn't so bad now was it?

Do they know the age of this cloud yet? Did it just recently happen? or has it always been there? and by recent i mean within the last 5000 thousand years

Seems to again support the supposition that space itself is a form of superfluid vacum.
Space is not simply nothingness but is instead an ocean of "Space Particles" or Quanta...sub atomic fractal bits that make up our reality ( and would nicely explain Gravity).

If spaceitself has "substance" it probably can experience Phase change i.e areas of density and agitation which would explain black holes and areas of differential temperature varitaion:

Taken from one of the Quantum Space Theory Axioms:

Temperature depen­dent phase changes exist in space-regions where the average geo­metric con­nec­tivity of the quanta of space tran­si­tion from one state to another. Furthermore, because the back­ground tem­per­a­ture of the uni­verse is cooling (the average wave­length of the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation is decreasing), the frac­tion of space char­ac­ter­ized by the denser geom­etry should become more preva­lent with time.

Possible interpretations using QST predictions:

QST pre­dicts that the inte­rior edges of dark matter haloes should have been fur­ther out from the cen­ters of their galaxies in the dis­tant past because the back­ground tem­per­a­ture of space was higher. As space has cooled these haloes should have reduced their inte­rior radii. Galaxies that give birth to little to no stars and gen­erate little heat should have dark matter haloes with sta­tis­ti­cally dimin­ished radii. This con­di­tion can be checked for by com­paring dark matter haloes from the dis­tant past to more recent haloes, and by com­paring the size of haloes to the average internal tem­per­a­ture of the host galaxy. If we find sev­eral suc­ces­sively dis­tant Einstein rings and or spiral galaxies with polar rings dis­persed throughout the vast regions of space­time then we should be able to com­pare obser­va­tion with the pre­dic­tions of qst in rela­tion to the changing inner radius of dark matter haloes as the uni­verse has cooled.

Another test for this pic­ture will come from mea­sure­ments of the internal tem­per­a­ture of space within spiral galaxies com­pared to the tem­per­a­tures inside bar-shaped galaxies. We should find that over time spiral disk galaxies should col­lapse into rotating bar-shaped galaxies unless they are sta­bi­lized by a phase change in space­time itself, which would have the effect of appearing as an embedded spher­ical dis­tri­b­u­tion of matter (a warp in space­time) in the galaxy itself. This means that on average spiral galaxies that have col­lapsed, or are col­lapsing into, bar-shaped galaxies should be warmer in tem­per­a­ture than stable spi­raled disk galaxies of the same mass. This increase in tem­per­a­ture would push the inte­rior edge of the galaxy’s dark matter halo out­ward – beyond the reach of the spi­raled arms – and would, there­fore, allow the col­lapse to pro­ceed toward bar-shape. Cooler galactic tem­per­a­tures, on the other hand, will pro­duce dark matter haloes that begin within reach of the spi­raled arms and will, there­fore, sta­bi­lized the spi­raled disk shape. By checking for these tem­per­a­ture dif­fer­ences and cor­re­la­tions we can test some of the pre­dic­tions of this model.

All courtesey of Thad Roberts QST ..einsteinsintuition.com...

reply to post by XPLodER


So if a potential energy forms between our sun and the center of our galaxy while we are in the middle of the two... Wouldn't we become a likely node on the path of the blackhole/Sun energy lines??

And would this not also mean that everything is a conductor to a certain extent and that maybe this is why physics has stalled in the public eye for fear people may figure out that our world could face extreme and dynamic conditions at any random time?

Is this theory of yours related to what I heard recently about the Sun to earth "magnetic wormholes?" Something about charged particles hitting the Earth through channels. Are these channels similar filed lines as the ones you are thinking exist from Blackholes?

How strong is this energy as far as causing heat changes and what is it? Would it make an electric charge strong enough to blow the power grid?

You can answer all or none of those questions, but something about your theory strikes me as true.

reply to post by Svipdagr


So far, based on the NASA press release anyway. All that is known is a general idea of it's composition, mass, size and temperature.

What would lead you to ask if it is 5,000 yrs old?

reply to post by watchitburn


Ohh it was just a random number for what I consider pretty recent and alarming

Yes, isn't this special. UM hydrogen and oxygen. H2O!

Why some of us already know this, because of all the waves that matter seems to be, and the stars seem to shoot out jets of water.

We're all spongebob in this school/universe.

They claim its hot gaseous steam?????

I don't know.......!!!!!

reply to post by watchitburn


Visually I wonder if this is fractally like another "star"...our galaxy is the center of a giant star but from our scalar dimension we cannot perceive it. If we were to blow ourselves up in size large enough...the milky way would disappear and all you would perceive is the ball of gas as a dense heat source similar to a star...

Maybe the center of our star holds a galaxy that is at a scalar dimension that we cannot perceive, and they cannot perceive us...

I have no idea how one would begin to test this hypothesis because were talking about scalar ratios that are soooo drastic we currently don't have the capability to measure it...let alone the means to remove all the irrelevant information in between those unfathomable scales...SEM and Hubble are probably the best tools we have as of yet to see/measure such minute and large scales...

sure as hell is fun to think about though...lol

Originally posted by Arbitrageur
To understand temperature in space, you have to discard your earthly understanding of it, and develop a new cosmic understanding, because of the low densities of matter in intergalactic space. Yes you'd be struck by million degree atoms, but not enough of them to stop you from freezing.

As arbitrageur pointed out, "hot" sin't what we are used to.

Myself, I've always had problems with the "standard" understanding of hot ... problem is, why these gases don't lose their excited state ...You know, when you hit a board or a brick ... it's the electrons in that brick, that stop you from going trhough it.

I suspect, that space is far from being space .. that, the conventional understanding of space being vacuum. The way to travel, as someone pointed out, is not by a ship ... but by projection.

From a strictly organic point of view...as in all energy is part of a vast organic entity. I like to think of them as galactic embryos with placentas. Awaiting the time for birthing....birthing what...I haven't a clue.

Des

It's H2O ie WATER, and they don't even give the composition until near the bottom of the article, as if trying to hide the truth. If its as hot as they say, which I doubt, it could be steam. These are the photoshop dudes after all!

Kind of gives a whole new meaning to the Peter Pan story, and the giant ship they traveled on! And the fact that it was known for a very long time.

reply to post by Destinyone


Can you explain that a little more clearly? I seam to be asking that alot in this thread
How could everything be part of an organic entity, and what would lead you to come to that conclusion?

reply to post by Unity_99


What does that imply?

It does make sense, if the cloud is mostly hydrogen and water. And hydrogen being the more dominant element. It stands to reason that there would be a good bit of water there.

But I am failing to see the significance of it.

Originally posted by watchitburn
reply to post by Destinyone

 

Can you explain that a little more clearly? I seam to be asking that alot in this thread

How could everything be part of an organic entity, and what would lead you to come to that conclusion?

LOL...in no way is my hypothesis based in scientific evidence. The whole concept of the living Earth, Mother Earth, extended to all molecules in the galaxy and beyond. Living energy, we are part of too.

I leave this thread to the scientists now....

Des

reply to post by watchitburn


So they got it right in that episode of the original "Star Trek". Fascinating.

S+F

Originally posted by phroziac
I cant imagine actual superluminal craft being possible.

the reality of what is possible is not ruled by your imagination

Originally posted by watchitburn
reply to post by LiberalSceptic

 

I recently read an article in a magazine, that was explaining how black holes go through periods of dormancy and activity. And when they are actively consuming matter whatever doesn't get sucked in gets shot out in massive super hot jets.

Once this superheated matter reaches a certain distance from the black hole. The gravity of the galaxy might disperse that matter into a relatively uniform gas cloud.

I'm just speculating here. I am probably completely missing something.

That's a good theory. I think it's leftover matter from the early Universe formation that is super-heated by affects of interactions with dark matter. Sortof a intersteller friction.