The Right Wing Echo Chamber

reply to post by MidnightTide


Now I want to see you refute something as well.
Trolling threads and calling BS is even more annoying then the ads I had to sit through before I became a member.

reply to post by wascurious


Well, sorry to break this to you, but your going to read opinions you don't like. Can't handle that, well, really don't care. (or better yet, flag my post and let the administration handle it)

This is yet another reason why oh lets look after each other, share everything socialist types are full of it. I know exactly how so called socialists who "care about the people" will react when someone disagrees.

Originally posted by MidnightTide

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by MidnightTide

 

Do you wish to refute a comment or claim that I have made? I am willing to listen to your opinion, but just calling BS doesn't drive your point home.

What claim, that the Republican party is using propaganda to direct public perceptions into what they want (Hell yes they do this), but you refuse to acknowledge that the Democrat Party does the exact same thing. You claim that the right wing have a special place for this, but I can see the exact same garbage from the left.

Your idea socialist utopia, that you claim some of us do not understand, is a complete impossibility with human nature.....

I did not mention anything about a utopia or anything close to it. I did claim that it seems that there are some people that do not know what socialism is. We know this because of the context in which they use it. I'm not doing that...they are.

We all know that the left plays off of people emotions and makes outrageous claims. No doubt there. But the Republicans are much better at the game! So much so that they can continually perpetuate outright lies that are easily refutable and jam that puppy down people's throats so much that people believe it. and keep doing so until it is part of the base's rhetoric and mantra.....dare I say dogma?

There is a huge difference between the two!

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by Summerian

 

No, I'm not wrong. I'm going by Marxist theory, I don't know what you're going by. And communism does not authoritarian anything...

The Marxist conception of socialism is that of a specific historical phase that will displace capitalism and precede communism. The major characteristics of socialism (particularly as conceived by Marx and Engels after the Paris Commune of 1871) are that the proletariat will control the means of production through a workers' state erected by the workers in their interests. Economic activity would still be organised through the use of incentive systems and social classes would still exist, but to a lesser and diminishing extent than under capitalism.

For orthodox Marxists, socialism is the lower stage of communism based on the principle of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution" while upper stage communism is based on the principle of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need"; the upper stage becoming possible only after the socialist stage further develops economic efficiency and the automation of production has led to a superabundance of goods and services

en.wikipedia.org...

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Maybe you want to have a look at your own link there buddy.
"You can't be socialist and be anti-communist at the same time."
Oh yes you can!
en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by wascurious


"Leftist" should be stricken from everyday conversation.

Such a stupid word that is now widely used thanks to Fox News, etc.

Click here for more information.

Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by wascurious

 

"Leftist" should be stricken from everyday conversation.

Such a stupid word that is now widely used thanks to Fox News, etc.

I know,

it is like four year olds discovering the word fart

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Anyone here is free to read the position posted in the article for an analysis of Hitler's leftist ideas.

there! fixed it

Please feel free to translate this page from the French

translate.google.com...

from that page, points in Hitler's program which are expressly socialistic in nature, representative of income redistribution schemes, hatred of capitalism, and the same so-called need to adjust "income inequality".

few months before the change of name German Workers Party (DAP), Adolf Hitler pésente itself a 25-point program, voted and approved before a gathering of 2,000 members, 24 February 1920 in Munich Hofbräuhaus.
Of these 25 points, a few titles that did not disavow certainly, many left parties today:


7. We demand that the State undertakes to provide all citizens livelihoods.

11. The elimination of income idlers and those who have an easy life, the abolition of slavery interest.

13. We demand the nationalization of all businesses now owned by trusts.

14. We demand a share in the profits of big business.

15. We require a substantial increase in retirees' pensions.

Sure sounds like the Democrats of today

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This is fascism, not socialism.

reply to post by sheepslayer247


No offense to others but you are the most repub. I've met besides a guy i know at the VAMC.

I'm starting to suspect that MAYBE the right//left GOP//democrats are part of the same body. The amount of money the last few elections that was spent is ridiculous. I only believe old or disabled vets or disabled(born) and those injured because of work or another should be able to receive long term benefits, I'm against a free ride but also believe if we provided state colleges to the public for free it would be a great investment for the country long term. I also see how we'll the veterans hospital I go to works and feel I shouldn't be the only one getting medical, sure it's not perfect but do we as a country which is predominately Christian feel its right by Jesus to NOT help the sick, to allow people to get and aged up at emergency room but they usually refer you to a specialist then you don't go cause insurance cots too much and you work at Walmart so the hospital doesn't get paid other people's bills go up, like shoplifting, I have lost faith in the government, both parties.

No American should be broke because of medical bills. Or hungry.

They way the top ruling class in these United States spend so much money to divide us is sickening. But we all fall for it. I fell for the bull# leading to war W/ Iraq. The way Obama has expanded on Bushes war on American citizens(patriot act) is very frightening (national defense authorization act), the ndaa allows AMERICAN BORN CITIZENS TO BE STRIPED OF THEIR CITIZENSHIP, thus removing the constitutional protections provided.
Think of what a power hungry politician/corporation could do with that. Say a state doesn't abide by wash dc orders and the congress/president label the governor and the citizens who are protesting/resisting as low-level terrorists which allows bad things to be done to them.

Well I enjoyed your post, I hope to work rebuilding this country with people like you. I believe we all are in danger from our own government. They took our privacy,(patriot act), now our guns, next our voices. We need to start a rational minded group to fight back. To take back our country. I'm not advocating violence either. Not saying I wouldn't die for your right to practice religion, or free speech, but I do want to try and give true hope and change instead of Lies and Chains