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Originally posted by Nana2
Originally posted by PatrickGarrow17
Those guys are outright liars right? Muslims hate infidels, women, and tolerance.
Now you're gettin' it!
Originally posted by PatrickGarrow17
reply to post by Nana2
You mean the same 60's where they were struggling for equality and were fighting groups like the KKK who justified their actions based on fundamentalist Christianity? Starting to become more clear, you're bias because of when you grew up. Sympathy.
John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by Nana2
So why don't the Christians use Bible's that are just the New Testament? Furthermore why doesn't your thread pose the same questions to Black people that are Christian? Why is the seller more demonic than the buyer?
Anywho... here's some more.
John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
more jems
I agree with you to a degree, zealotry is a huge problem but it exists in all Religions. No religion has a higher
Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by DeadSnow
Generalization? i guess "some" and "most" is generalization for you.
Black people of Africa was influenced by the closest religion they had, which is Islam, they just carried it forward because some of them don;t want to accept the "white man's religion".
Originally posted by PatrickGarrow17
reply to post by Nana2
Alright, fair enough. Try and understand that I'm a 21 year old idealist that just wants everyone to get along, progress and respect each other. Sorry if I've over reacted.
You do bring up some good points, but I stand by my assertion that Islam is evolving and is as viable a religion as any in the proper environment. I think you should reconsider your stance of Islam being definitively evil if for nothing else but the respect of the people who practice, especially those who live up to the highest of ethical standards.
Which is many, including many black American Muslims.
I can only go by what I read of their own teachings, by how they currently treat a lot of their population, like women , and by the seemingly worldwide problems they have with many countries over ridiculous stuff.
I had a feeling you were young. You do talk with intelligence and I appreciate that. But when you have lived a while longer I think you will start to see things differently a bit.
Originally posted by DeadSnow
reply to post by Nana2
You joined ATS in 2011 and still don't bother using the search function to gather more data that can help you reach a logical conclusion.
I don't get it either!
The Bible and the Quran both have violence and death. The Quran states that one should only kill as a self defense, not as retaliation. But wait, let me guess you've never bothered to read it have you?
Originally posted by DeadSnow
Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by DeadSnow
Generalization? i guess "some" and "most" is generalization for you.
Dude, 'most' means a large majority. I know Christians with Muslim names, are you African American by any chance? did you convert from Islam? If not how do you know? and why use the word BLACK instead of African American?????
Black people of Africa was influenced by the closest religion they had, which is Islam, they just carried it forward because some of them don;t want to accept the "white man's religion".
A majority of people in Africa are CHRISTIAN and not MUSLIM!...wait you're gonna ask me how I know this, I LIVE THERE!
Originally posted by RedParrotHead
Originally posted by DeadSnow
reply to post by Nana2
You joined ATS in 2011 and still don't bother using the search function to gather more data that can help you reach a logical conclusion.
I don't get it either!
The Bible and the Quran both have violence and death. The Quran states that one should only kill as a self defense, not as retaliation. But wait, let me guess you've never bothered to read it have you?
Really?
"Under Sharia, those who insult Muhammad or Allah are to be put to death. So are those who desecrate the Qur'an, or commit other acts of blasphemy. This tradition began with Muhammad, as recorded in the Hadith and by his biographers. There is also a Qur'anic basis for it."
source
Picking on Islam? no, just asking questions and quoting their own words to them. Why are YOU defending it so much?
Originally posted by DeadSnow
reply to post by RedParrotHead
I'm tired of people mentioning Sharia Law because they read it online, cmon now is that they only thing you guys can come up with. Perhaps if you read the book you may stumble across a lot of other excuses to hate a religion so similar to Christianity and Judaism that you know nothing of.
Do you know why they call them the Abrahamic religions religions?
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by Nana2
Picking on Islam? no, just asking questions and quoting their own words to them. Why are YOU defending it so much?
You most definitely are. I am defending truth actually. We're never going to get away from all this craziness until we start demanding truth over propaganda. A good chunk of alternative media sources are very intentionally poisoned with Islamophobia which just generally sucks for those of us that don't trust the MSM. Vet your sources, I'll leave it at that.
Originally posted by RedParrotHead
reply to post by DeadSnow
Wait, these people live by Sharia law. How many people have been executed because of breaking such laws? Do you read the news? When was the last time someone was killed by a government for "blasphemy" in any other religion?