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Non-Americans please step in...state your opinions

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posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 04:14 PM
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A few people here don't believe that most non-Americans don't like Bush. I've yet to meet anyone who doesn't live in America who likes Bush. (the president, that is)

Please state your opinion on this. I'm very curious to see if this is just a rumor, or if the world really does hate him.

This should be interesting, IMO.



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 04:21 PM
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I don't like bush. He's a moronic, self righteous warmonger who has managed to whip the masses into a patriotic fervor. He's all but turned his back on the international community and even gone so far as to alienate your nation's greatest allies- France, Germany, and Canada, among others.

That said, I don't much like kerry either. He couldn't reason his way out of a paper bag.

I have met a single canadian who thinks Bush is a good leader, but I think military service has too much influence over that call. I don't know- for me, there are always different ways around a problem, aside from dun s'ploding it. My friend speaks of the stability that American imperialism brings, but I don't buy it.

DE



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 04:30 PM
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I'm betting that will be similar to most of the posts we'll see here. I know alot of foreigners, and I've yet to meet one who claims to support Bush. Some American people are living in la la land, apparently. Or they're just talking out their arses.



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 04:44 PM
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I wouldn't say I hate him, as hate is a very strong word. But I don't agree with his policies at all. I don't like the way he acts, speaks or rides his bike (or falls off it) ;-)

I used to be kind of indifferent about Bush, but that has changed. And others I know here in Canada that used to think Bush was great now do not like him either.



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 04:48 PM
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Chalk up another one that doesn't like Bush. I would also like to add that I like a lot of the Republican platform. I've said all along that a true Republican is one that love his country, his party and HATES Bush. The both don't HAVE to go together.



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 04:57 PM
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Yup, same here, thought he was the man for taking a tough iron fist approach to terror right afer 9/11...

But then there was the UN problem, and Iraq. Then came walking over Allies, saying no to the environment, defending blatent lies about intelligence and general snaking about.

That my opinion on him, he's an over confident, calculating, rich dumbo who puppets around on his high stool of American military and economic might, He knows he is the most powerful, but he aint winning any friends, and makes a few of us foreigners develop stereotypes of all America.

Because that's what the majority of people do, they stereotype. We think half of the States are made up of fools, fools who believe in this man.

And the recent crazy posts about America inventing things it hasn't and i even saw one last year some guy said you (America) had the oldest democracy in the world


Please change your president, and help change our opinions of you in recent years past, you have so many smart people that the world cannot see past obese bigmac fans, Illegal wars and Silly beliefs


[edit on 15-10-2004 by Snoopdopey]



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 04:57 PM
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then you simply aren't meeting those that do like bush. i like bush, and it just so happens that several, maybe most, of my friends also like bush. i wish i could tell you why you're not meeting bush supporters, but i can't. but in the spirit of this websites montra, don't let that make you think everyone here in america dislikes bush.



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by astroblade
but in the spirit of this websites montra, don't let that make you think everyone here in america dislikes bush.


But in the spirit of this thread, it was directed to "non-Americans."



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 05:06 PM
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Am from the UK and I used to really like bush when I saw how strong he was after 9/11 but since then I feel that I was led up the garden path by both Bush and Blair. Now I dont know what to think about him but as there is so much bull s*** around its hard to work out what is true and what is'nt but personally from what I have read, if half of it is true then he's bad news.

But I do agree with most that Kerry is not much better, its a tough time this year for the Americans. Shame really as tbh I luv America and they dont deserve all the bad press that goes around. But when you are a leader its not an easy job.

Marcus



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 05:07 PM
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The reasons why non-Americans disagree with Bush are all stated in previous posts. I also would venture to say that non-Americans have more diverse sources of information, and a broader perspective on the world events. Europeans also have a much keener feeling about wars being fought in the hearts of their lands, therefore they are war-averse. Since most Americans never saw destruction of their country on same scale, that alone makes for a huge difference in opinion.



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 05:11 PM
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Well astro, I would say people are not meeting supporters of Bush because outside of America he does not have many. And he is not doing well here for a incumbent official. I hope his day's are over. Every time he opens his mouth in Public I become embarrassed!

TUT


LONDON (AP) - America's reputation around the world is hurting, according to a series of coordinated polls published Friday from 10 countries, including many of the United States' closest allies.

In eight of the countries where the surveys commissioned by major newspapers were conducted, more people said their view of America had worsened in the past two to three years than improved. That question was asked in nine countries.

By big margins, those questioned said the war in Iraq did not aid the global fight against terrorism.

And in eight out of 10 nations, those polled said - often in landslide proportions - that they hoped to see Democrat John Kerry beat President Bush in next month's election. Bush won backing from a majority of respondents only in Russia and Israel.
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CNN

n eight of the countries where the surveys commissioned by major newspapers were conducted, more people said their view of America had worsened in the past two to three years than improved. That question was asked in nine countries.

By big margins, those questioned said the war in Iraq did not aid the global fight against terrorism.

And in eight out of 10 nations, those polled said - often in landslide proportions - that they hoped to see Democrat John Kerry beat President Bush in next month's election. Bush won backing from a majority of respondents only in Russia and Israel.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


*Please use BB Code Tags for Long Urls, It dirsupts the screen size.*



[edit on 15-10-2004 by TrickmastertricK]



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 08:03 PM
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Well , lets say that BUsh is better choice than the liberal Kerry ! We live in an era of terrorism , in an era where it is far more reasonable the most powerful man in the world to be Bush , BUT not Kerry ! I will not say that Bush is extremely inteligent , but i will say that his administration is and this administration knows what is good for every Christian !I am from Europe and I prefer Bush !



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 08:50 PM
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Personally, I think Bush has done more damage to the reputation of the American people than any other person on the planet, past or present.

I live in the UK. I've never been to the U.S. and now I know that I never will. As far as I'm concerned, the war in Iraq has always been about the oil interests of the U.S. and has nothing to do with terrorism.

I don't think the world is a safer place now that the Iraq war 'is over'. I think the danger of terrorist acts has probably increased ten-fold. And of course Iraq will be a better place without Saddam, but what sort of democracy will be installed in his place. I suspect, one that's sympathetic to the needs of American oil interests.

What I find amazing is that there are U.S. companies making billions of dollars from the sales of arms to the military (which is paid for by U.S. tax payers) and that those same companies are also set to make billions from the rebuilding of the cities that those same weapons help to demolish.

On top of all that, allegations have been made that the people who are close to Bush are also closely linked with these very same companies. The whole thing stinks and I truly wonder if it will make an ounce of difference whether Bush or Kerry get in. Is it true that Bush and Kerry are distant cousins? If it is then that should be ringing some bells too.

BTW, this might sound like I'm anti-American. I'm am not. But, the current U.S. president doesn't appear to winning or keeping many friends outside America. I don't know how the U.S. media portray Tony Blair, but he did not have the support of the majority when he sent our troops into Iraq on a false mandate.
The reputation of the UK has also been damaged.

In summary, I've never been so scared for the future of the planet as I am now. I don't think it matters Bush or Kerry get in. Agendas have already been set by big business and will be followed regardless.

[edit on 15/10/2004 by Deckard_BR26354]



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 09:03 PM
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I like Bush much better than Kerry I beleive Bush is a stronger leader and I'm hoping he wins the election. I'am from Canada and alot of people I have talked to are supporters of Bush. They had a sound off on www.canada.com website and you can state your opinion on it, one of the topics was Kerry/Bush alot of Bush supporters.
All candicates lie and tell you what they want you to believe till they get in, I'm not arguing that Bush doesn't, "but" he is a strong leader and does not put up with any nonsense.



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 09:04 PM
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I don't much like him, he seems a little like he's not very bright & I reckon that's gotta be a bit scary to have a President who's a dumb-ass! Also, he's not the most attractive man on the list, is he?



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 09:17 PM
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Well you can add me to the no-thanks-to-Bush-crowd as well. And again; this is not about some misplaced illwill towards the US and its citizens; it's a serious concern about the current US leadership showing a hostile, arrogant and antagonistic attitude, which has effectively alienated most parts of the rest of the world.



[edit on 15-10-2004 by Durden]



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 09:32 PM
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I am an Australian, and to us, American Foreign policy is quite obviously a far more important issue than domestic American policy.

The whole Bush family has a rather smelly and tainted past, and it is really just more of the same from Dubya as from Daddy and Grandpa Bush.

The thing that has really pissed off a large number of Australians more than anything else, was the Bali bomb blast that killed 200 Australians. It was very obvious right from the start that the motives were to end the massive public anti war rallies occurring here in Australia.

As no terrorist group has ever claimed responsibility, (very unusual) it was quite obviously sponsored by the American Government. It was OUR 9/11 if you like.

Bushie likes to talk about the coalition of the willing, and how Australians are fighting the terrorist menace shoulder to shoulder with America. Not true. It was made very clear to our Prime Minister that more bombs would follow the Bali explosion, unless we sent our token quota of troops to fight in Iraq. Most Australians now understand this.

It is not generally known or publicized, but I hear that Australia now has only around 350 troops remaining in Iraq, mainly to protect the Australian Embassy in Baghdad. Do not confuse reality with the assumption that John Howard has won another term as Prime Minister and we are therefore dead keen to escalate Bushie's war against terror.

Neither Australian political party is going to tell Bush to stick it, and bring ALL our troops home. That would be like waving a red flag at an enraged bull. We will just do the absolute minimum to keep the CIA from killing more Australians. As long as Bush can get some political mileage out of our token involvement, he will be happy and will probably leave us alone.

What is happening to America is absolutely terrible, and unfortunately there is nothing we here in Australia can really do about it. But don't expect Australians to love Bush. Not after Bali.

If you seriously believed Australians carried out 9/11 would you love us ??



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 09:41 PM
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I live in Australia and base my opinions on what I find on the net through news services and forums such as this one.

I don't think that people should hate Bush as an individual as he is only the "front man" for the Bush administration as a whole.

Back in 2001 I thought he showed strength and courage after the 911 attacks and believed he was sincere in his pledge to overcome the evil of terrorism.

Three years later I don't have the same opinion. I believe he has tarnished the image of "Truth, Justice and the American way". The administration has since shown it has no regard for basic human rights and demonstrates a "do as I say, not as I do" type attitude.

Some of my reasoning is based on,

  • The classification of POW's as "enemy combatants", being held without charge indefinately. They have been held in custody for years and doesn't look like they will deal with the situation any time soon. They should either be charged and tried in a fair court or released.
  • His apparent change of heart and indifference as to the capture of Osama.
  • The selective enforcement of U.N resolutions. USA(as well as Israel, India, Pakistan just to name a few) is also in breach of resolutions regarding WMD's but does not appear to trying to rectify this.
  • The invasion of Iraq to remove WMD's. I think it's hypocritical to invade a country looking for WMD's while at the same time dropping D.U shells which are classified as WMD's and are illegal under U.N law.


Mr Bush may be honestly trying his best to be a good leader. He will most likely be re-elected because none of his opponents have demonstrated that they can improve the situation that America has ended up in. The world has become an incresingly unstable place. How all this will end is anybodies guess.



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by Figjam
I don't much like him, he seems a little like he's not very bright & I reckon that's gotta be a bit scary to have a President who's a dumb-ass! Also, he's not the most attractive man on the list, is he?
premenstrual
. I bet you and I could singlehandedly fight the Iraq war right now



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 09:59 PM
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Wow as a side note , it seems that the Anti-Bush % runs right with those in here that ARE Americans.

To those outside the USA, thanks for supporting him. He has a tough job to do and the backbone to do it. Kerry would NOT be good for the world.




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