UFO War: US and Chinese Navy off San Francisco coast

reply to post by SplitInfinity


If this is true, seems to me there must be civilians out there who can give some kind of
confirmation. Boats, ships, planes..people on shore see unusual military activity or some
kind of movement, friends or relatives of loved ones in the military. If there was a secret war
going on wouldn't boats and ships be blocked or warned off from going in that area?
If this is true there would be leaks of some kind, or at least some kind of footprint. You
can't hide a war. Convenient that it's off-shore in the middle of the Pacific.

IF this were true, then Johnny or Janie, serving onboard one of the ships would've sent a pic by now. And please don't say that they'd be unable to or they're under orders not to say anything, because this generation doesn't hold those values. When a Navy SEAL writes a "tell all" book because he felt the POTUS was getting too much credit, then I would figure an E3 or E2 would send a pic to his/her folks of the war against aliens.

We live in an era of instant communication/gratification, pics would get out and someone would want to be the first to do it! Not like they have to get the film developed. Take a photo and it can be sent worldwide in seconds...hours if you use AT&T.

Secrets can not be kept secret as they once were.

reply to post by bilb_o


You didn't look very carefully at Google. I googled "BP oil rig organism" and came up with hits right on the first page. The organism is man made. It was used by BP. Do some more research. It's quite easy.

Originally posted by Grifter81
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

You have piqued my interest. What is the leverage you speak of? And why can it not be discussed here?

I find this thread interesting, be it the truth, smokescreen, hoax or disinfo. As they say, there is no smoke without fire.

edit on 18/9/2012 by Grifter81 because: (no reason given)

Possibly because...

We're livestock?

Originally posted by Reverend58
reply to post by Screwed

 

If, and I quote, "It has no effect on me or my life whatsoever" was a true statement you wouldn't have posted. Evidently it has had an effect on you.

So, you are saying that it IS possible for something to have no effect on your life whatsoever.........until you mention the fact that it has no effect on your life whatsoever....at which point,, it then HAS an effect on your life, thus cancelling out the original premise????

WOW, what a paradox.

Gotta love the way some people's minds work.

Originally posted by Screwed

Originally posted by Reverend58
reply to post by Screwed

 

If, and I quote, "It has no effect on me or my life whatsoever" was a true statement you wouldn't have posted. Evidently it has had an effect on you.

So, you are saying that it IS possible for something to have no effect on your life whatsoever.........until you mention the fact that it has no effect on your life whatsoever....at which point,, it then HAS an effect on your life, thus cancelling out the original premise????

WOW, what a paradox.

He's right. If it had no effect, you would not have felt the need to post. you simply would have let it. go. clearly, it either has an effect, or you suspect it might have an effect at some point. so, it DOES HAVE AN EFFECT.

Gotta love the way some people's minds work.

Originally posted by Feltrick
IF this were true, then Johnny or Janie, serving onboard one of the ships would've sent a pic by now. And please don't say that they'd be unable to or they're under orders not to say anything, because this generation doesn't hold those values. When a Navy SEAL writes a "tell all" book because he felt the POTUS was getting too much credit, then I would figure an E3 or E2 would send a pic to his/her folks of the war against aliens.

We live in an era of instant communication/gratification, pics would get out and someone would want to be the first to do it! Not like they have to get the film developed. Take a photo and it can be sent worldwide in seconds...hours if you use AT&T.

Secrets can not be kept secret as they once were.

The book was written with permission in order to reinforce the idea that the take down of Osama was real. if you attempted to leak something classified while on active duty in the military it would mean your life.

reply to post by Char-Lee


Mr Panetta says that the SEAL didn't have permission and that he could face a penalty. Oh, I get it, you're saying it's a conspiracy. That the "SEAL" or perhaps a ghost writer was told to write the book to show the sheeple that OBL is dead...nevermind.

If the Navy was fighting aliens, SN Johnny would text pics to his buds back home. "Hey, bros, check out this gnarly alien dude!". I assume that's how kids talk nowadays on their way to a sock hop or ice cream social.

Originally posted by Feltrick
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

Mr Panetta says that the SEAL didn't have permission and that he could face a penalty. Oh, I get it, you're saying it's a conspiracy. That the "SEAL" or perhaps a ghost writer was told to write the book to show the sheeple that OBL is dead...nevermind.

If the Navy was fighting aliens, SN Johnny would text pics to his buds back home. "Hey, bros, check out this gnarly alien dude!". I assume that's how kids talk nowadays on their way to a sock hop or ice cream social.

I would assume that if the leaders were not total nits, they would confiscate all i-phones and shut down communications before anything even started.

I have a son with top secret classification or was as a US Marine for many years, he now flies a longbow Apache for the Army. I could never get any info out of him about anything.

He tried to make it a laugh by saying "I could tell you but then I would have to kill you :-)" But he never told me anything ever bah!

Originally posted by orbitbaby
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

If this is true, seems to me there must be civilians out there who can give some kind of
confirmation. Boats, ships, planes..people on shore see unusual military activity or some
kind of movement, friends or relatives of loved ones in the military. If there was a secret war
going on wouldn't boats and ships be blocked or warned off from going in that area?
If this is true there would be leaks of some kind, or at least some kind of footprint. You
can't hide a war. Convenient that it's off-shore in the middle of the Pacific.

edit on 19-9-2012 by orbitbaby because: (no reason given)

The article states...

The verifications of the fleet operations have been many, there have been no confirmation from the US side though the ships have been seen by every vessel that makes it offshore.

Even if the trusted persons whom the author got the information from, as he stated here "I either have to give this a 70% or reclassify a reliable official source as purposefully leaking something that makes no sense. " are presenting this information falsely, there is a reason and it is not just for fun IMO.

For all of you who keep saying the aliens are the good guys...what do you think of these cases? There are others that I think are clearly NOT hoaxes.

Warning: this article contains graphic images of a human mutilation
www.alienvideo.net...

Possible ET Abduction And
Death Of PA Man Reported

rense.com...

A boot was found a mile from the 4 wheeler a few days ago at the top of a tree. It was his. I notice military copters have been scouring the mountain ever since at least once a day.

Hunted By Aliens: The Higdon Ordeal
mysteriousuniverse.org...

Even more perplexing was the fact that there were no tire tracks leading into the bog. The sheriff and his men could not comprehend how Higdon had managed to get his pick-up stuck there. Judging from the circumstances it would’ve had to have been dropped from above — it seemed to defy rational logic.

I'm curious.

I'm not sure that the possibility was noted - but are people arguing the possibility that the US is potentially on the verge of a war with Iran, and simultaneously the Chinese and US Navy are working just off of the US coast on those pesky aliens?

Talk about timing! How convenient is that for the Chinese? Especially since they don't want the US to go to war with Iran?

I suppose the Chinese are the best bet, given their fear levels at this point.

Are there actually any reliable sources who are also reporting this? If this is currently going on I find it fascinating how much interest the US and China are taking in this. Something must have been seen or crashed for the military from both countries to get involved. I look forward to reading about this via reliable media and not from persons affiliated with ridiculous disclosure groups.

ok ET's showing up, THAT i can believe. but what blows this story out of the water is that the US and China are working together. i mean comeon get real.

this does sound interesting but im going to lean toward disinfo.

Not to mention the fact that China's navy isn't real big on long distance patrols or etc. This story while amusing is highly dubious, like a lot of stuff Veterans today posts.

Originally posted by ProfessorT
Are there actually any reliable sources who are also reporting this? If this is currently going on I find it fascinating how much interest the US and China are taking in this. Something must have been seen or crashed for the military from both countries to get involved. I look forward to reading about this via reliable media and not from persons affiliated with ridiculous disclosure groups.

edit on 19-9-2012 by ProfessorT because: (no reason given)

I guess you read the article it says Now an Asian intelligence agencies reports it also says

The verifications of the fleet operations have been many, there have been no confirmation from the US side though the ships have been seen by every vessel that makes it offshore.

so it seems that is all we know.

Originally posted by karen61057

Originally posted by N4mYourself
reply to post by LightsideAssassin

 

Saw this on VT also. Glad to see that others are finding it. Fascinating. Troubling, whether info or disinfo. I normally just read and don't comment, but this seems very different. Wanted to share the following: I also note that DOD Sec. Panetta is supposed to be meeting the China's Vice President on Wednesday 9-19-2012 per the WashPost. Also, I note lots of big earthquake activity in the Pacific. Lots of 5 and 6+ shaking going on per the official earthquake sites in the last few days.

That meeting may have something to do with the situation between China and Japan right now where they are in dispute over the ownership of some islands that lie between the two nations. Though I dont know what Panettas role in that would be. That has been on the news. This ? Not so much......

I suppose a "war" between China and Japan could be a cover story for a war with aliens

But truth be told those Chinese folk are not happy with their Japanese island land owners so I'm on the side this tension is very real and has nothing to do with aliens..... well unless we go the David Icke route of alien interference then of course it's all the aliens fault

reply to post by ishum


Really? You don't think in a time of crisis both countries can work together, even when facing hostile aliens?

You're a glass is half empty kind of guy huh?

Does anyone officially know if the aliens speak Chinese or Russian or Farsi?

If they speak Chinese, we're in luck.