Earths Unsolved X-files (part 2 of 3)

I really enjoyed reading your thread, nice info.

Originally posted by Sublimecraft
5. The Solway Firth Spaceman

The problem with this picture is that the framing. Why would this photographer aim so high as to capture the 'spaceman' while almost cutting her chin off?

reply to post by Shadow Herder

The problem with this picture is that the framing. Why would this photographer aim so high as to capture the 'spaceman' while almost cutting her chin off?

He didn't - here is the original shot in its entirety................

Originally posted by jude11
Read the first thread and now looking forward to this!

Great stuff OP...Keep it up.

Peace

106 stars? WTF

Originally posted by shamaniski

Originally posted by jude11
Read the first thread and now looking forward to this!

Great stuff OP...Keep it up.

Peace

106 stars? WTF

Thats what i wrote on page 4...lol

He has more than the OP... Dont get me wrong, I like Jude and all his contributions to ATS, I just find it funny...

I just wish I had that kinda skill

7. The Russian ground anomolies. A strange phenomena is happening in some Russian forests. People are finding strange, deep holes. They appear in the dense forest, in the places you can’t get on the car or truck to bring any device to drill the ground. There is no soil nearby that should be taken from such deep hole. When people are brave enough to venture into the holes, they find that they end abruptly in the darkness. There are no any reasonable ideas on how these holes appear and what they are being used for. No one knows who or what is digging these holes or why. englishrussia.com

Mole people or some type of disused rocket silo?

reply to post by Sublimecraft


Is the spaceman supposed to be facing away or forward?

My thoughts are if it's not an alien, it's probably a time traveler with futuristic clothing....speaking of which, the suit does kind of remind me of the clothes from THX 1138

I read an article last year about the dog suicide bridge being solved.

Under that bridge in all the underbrush are critters (can't remember what they were), and when they tested the area for scents it was very high.

This smell combined with an optical illusion from the dogs perspective makes them jump when their chase istinct is triggered.

Essentially they run off to chase critters.

I have a very well behaved Cairn Terrier so I believe this explanation. The instinct to chase critters is so strong in him I never walk him without a lead, he gets tunnel vision and the chase is on. He'd never think to run for any other reason, but he can't resist a squirrel.



I've been an Oak Island fan since the 80's when my granpa told me about it, and I'm pumped by recent developments.

In 2010 Blankenship announced that after 30 years on the island he had figured it out. There was a legal fight in 2010 aqlso which Blankenship won and he was granted a treasure trove license to dig.

They moved the equipment in and started the operation in 2011, and haven't released any info, zip.

In the past he posted regular updates, at least every 3 months.

I think they have it.

Originally posted by phalanx001
reply to post by Sublimecraft

 

The missing tongue is easily explainable (as gruesome as it may sound) : animal feasting on soft tissue due to time lapse.

Actually, the animal feasting theory was discounted due to the fact that there weren't any claw or bite marks on the face. Investigators said there should be other marks left by a feasting animal.

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Yes - I also read that and it does appear to go along way in solving the mystery - especially when you consider the localized nature of the leap/jump point. I find it interesting that the "2nd timers" (dogs not killed and recover from their injuries) still give it a go again - no fear of death? This is an anomaly because my experience with my dogs is that they learn their lessons quickly and very rarely make mistakes like this twice.

Thanks for this series - thoroughly interesting, No10. in particular reminds me of an experience of mine. In my student years I used to work in a bar in Edinburgh's Old Town, called the Pelican. It was a very popular bar sited next to the Guilded Balloon, a popular Fringe venue (if any of my fellow overseas ATS members are interested in coming to Edinburgh for the Fringe it's brilliant fun and well worth the trip) - anyhoo...

The bar is no longer there as it was burned to the ground along with several of the surrounding buildings in 2002.

A couple of links for context




en.wikipedia.org...
www.edinphoto.org.uk...

Within the main bar there was signs of the original street such as doorways and old flagstones, which had all been tastefully incorporated into the look of the bar and was pretty cool.

Upstairs in the office area was a bit spooky and run down, there was a hole in the wall large enough to climb through but was pitch black (if you were brave or stupid enough) you could make your way through old run down buildings, torch in hand of course, which was full of rats the size of dogs, thick cobwebs and weird noises, eventually you would make your way up to Chamber street - it was a pretty terrifying experience and I chickened out half way... so to get to the point a bit, there was history in the building.

It was a common occurrence for people to hear their names being called out, people up in the office would often come down saying "What is it? You just shouted on me." - which we hadn't, and that happened every other day.

A typical weekend shift was 5 in the evening until 5am - tiring but good fun, after we would sit around have a staff drink and chat till the sun came up.

OK here we go - one night (a Saturday) we finished our shift as normal, Andy who was managing that night was locking up, this comprised of setting the alarm system, locking the internal wooden/glass doors, large external wooden doors which were bolted and chained, and then a large metal gate which was chained and padlocked.

All the guys who had worked that night were working again the next day...

We met outside the locked bar at midday waiting on Andy with the keys to open up - he turned up (late as usual) and went through the usual rigmarole of unlocking all the chains etc. and switching off the alarm. When we walked into the main bar we were met with the site of our cigarette machine pulled right out from the wall with the power flex at full stretch, so that the plug was still in the wall socket but with the very tip of the pins in and no more. There was no obvious drag marks on the stone floor and it took 4 of us to lift the machine back against the wall. We were last out, first in - the alarm hadn't been triggered and there was no sign of entry.

No one could explain it and we had a bit of a chill about us for the rest of that day, definitely a hair on the back of the neck moment.

Cheers

bB

Only 3 parts to this? You know once you publish the third part people will complain and you'll have to deliver!

reply to post by DCPatriot

Ludmila Dubinina Ludmila wore a short sleeve shirt, long sleeve shirt, and two sweaters. The body was covered by underwear, long socks, two pairs of pants. External pair was badly damaged by fire and subsequently ripped. She also wore a small hat and two pairs of warm sock. A third sock was not paired. Ludmila apparently in the last attempt to preserve her feet took off her sweater and cut it in two pieces. One half she rapped around her left foot. Another half she left or dropped unintentionally on the snow. - tongue is missing - soft tissues are missing around eyes, eyebrows, and left temporal area, bone is partially exposed (1) - eyes are missing (1) - nose cartilages are broken and flattened (2) - 2, 3, 4, 5 ribs are broken on the right side, two fracture lines are visible (3) - 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 ribs are broken on the right side, two fracture lines are visible (4) - soft tissues of the upper lip are missing, teeth and and upper jaw is exposed - massive hemorrhage in the heart's right atrium - bruise in the middle left thigh, size 10*5cm (6) - damaged tissues around left temporal bone, size 4*4cm (7) Occasionally you hear claims that the tongue was ripped, or eaten, or whatnot. The medical records simply that "the tongue is missing". Vozrojdenniy describes missing hypoglossal muscle as well as muscles of the floor of the mouth. That is it. There is no explanation, theories, condition of the surrounding tissues. It looks weird especially given the fact previous bodies had more detailed autopsies. There is no credible explanation for this vague statement. Although it is mentioned that the stomach contained about 100 g of coagulated blood. It is used by some as an indication that the heart was beating and the blood was flowing when tongue was removed from a mouth. The cause of death is stated as hemorrhage into right atrium of the heart, multiple fractured ribs and internal bleeding.

She was found face down, laying on the floor, Not upright.

reply to post by badBERTHA


THAT

raised the hair on my arms for sure !!!

creeeepy .. !

There's endless events we'll never fully understand. But that kid has a doll tapped to his or her head. Clearly

The Cumbrian Spaceman Photograph is an enduring mystery due to the fact
that the gentleman who took the odd picture, was also visited by the so-called
'Men In Black'
In 1964, the idea of many owning cars was very-much a luxury. Many families
did not own a telephone, televisions were black-and-white and for the most part, the
working and middle classes of England believed the BBC and what the Government
said.
The Cold-War was underway, although the activities involving spies and clandestine
plots would never touch most folk in the British Isles. I'd wager it was seen as something
that happened in London, a wind-swept Marsh of Cumbria was a world-away.

Most villages -like Burgh By The Sands were quiet places where very little happened.
Visitors were far-and-few between and the days went by at a slower pace than today.
This must be understood before getting into the 'nuts-and-bolts' of what occurred.

Here on the internet, many sites quote Mr. Jim Templeton as a Firefighter... that was not
a word frequented in 1964.
Here is a link that may assist on how the gentleman conducted himself.
Source:

Mr. Templeton -who enjoyed photography, always insisted he didn't see anyone in the area
when he took the quaint picture of his daughter holding the posy, although he did mention
that some old ladies were sitting in a car at the far-end of the marsh.

He took three photographs and supposedly, the 'Spaceman' image was his second photo.
So is the 'growth' from Elizabeth's head one of the females that left the car and wandered
behind the little girl?
Didn't Jim Templeton notice the intruder walking past and decide to take another picture of
his daughter?
So he sent off the picture to The Daily Mail and told his story... remember, this 1964 and
tales of the killer-of-the-killer of a young assassinated President in America being involved
with the Mafia -were waffting over the Atlantic. Vietnam was rolling on and for many English
people, it seemed like a nasty-thing going on in another room.
Four Liverpudlian musicians were tackling the difficult market of the U.S and the pipe-smoking
Harold Wilson had just brought his Labour Party into Government.
But on that northern marsh, a little girl and a Spaceman got their picture took!

But it's these 'MIB's'... the two men from 'Her Majesty's Ministry'
They referred to each other as numbers, refused to show identification (which in those days
wasn't such a big-deal... wearing suits and acting efficient would usually suffice!)
The two strangers -through questions about the Marsh's birdlife and weather, seemed to want
Mr. Templeton to admit he may have been mistaken.
When he refused to be swayed by their questions, they got into their car and left him there!
Hardly a responsible act by accountable people... unless they weren't who they said they were.

And so the picture lives on, and so do the questions.

reply to post by klam44


Wow! That link was great information on the spaceman suit...it makes sense now...and yes hoodie jackets with removable hoody were all the rage in the 60's! Also, the other photo of the little girl with her sister playing has a white shadow on Her left that looks like a white jacket , like the film superimposed her moms white jacket. Thanks.

Than again the astronaut could be some poor bastard that was involved with a teleportation experiment that went haywire

reply to post by TheLonewolf


Perhaps that would explain his head beiing on backward ! It's obvopiusly some kind of Action Man type toy rumour has it that the girl subsequently died sometime later from where her idiot dad nailed the Action Man to the back of here head for the photo , the figure naow has a regular spot on TopGear going by the name of The Stig.

reply to post by badBERTHA


Thanks BB!!!

That IS an amazing story and the crux of what I love to read about.

I got goosebumps during your last 2 paragraphs - wow

Worthy of its own thread - especially with a few comments from your friends etc thrown in for good measure. That photo drove the whole story home, imo.

Thanks very much - not too much to add to it really but it was a chiller at the time for sure

I did have one other supernatural experience (but it's harder to prove) - I worked in an insurance firm in a big old building on George Street in Edinburgh, I was walking along a corridor when I saw this woman dressed in long black dress, ball gown style with a bodice and large skirt, her hair tied in a bun, about mid 40s - I only saw her for a moment but got a pretty good look at her and she opened a door and walked through. As I approached I realised she had walked into the guys toilet - I thought I'd better check she was ok, I went in calling "hello you ok in there?", no answer I went right in and checked around and there was no one there. When I got back to my desk and told my boss he said that she was called the lady in black (not very imaginative) and was well known and had been seen walking about by a few lucky employees

Keep up the great work, really enjoying your research.

All the best

bB