Religious interference in the US Affairs of State by Israeli involved interests

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by MagnumOpus

 

So I guess the topic is me.

Everytime you show up it is You think this or Your Church does this. I don't see any worldly type knowledge.

With your tunnel vision of the world commentary, to reply to you takes comments of your limited world views.

I'd prefer a wider scope that is inclusive of the problems with religions, but yours is only one that maintains the problems and seeks not to address the problems.

How about you BOTH discuss the actual topic SUBJECT, as spelled out in the Opening Post, instead of each other?

Any further off-topic discussion will result in the thread being closed, and may lead to other actions.

Only warning.

Looks like photos of the Embassy, plus some insights into how it was taken, from the news. It will be some time before all the dust settles on just who all was involved in this 911 attack.

It appears there is some discussions on the drone killings, aggrivated with the film, that now has most of the middle east in protest mode.

www.guardian.co.uk...

Inside the US consulate in Benghazi: material and human damage laid bareVisit to burned-out consular building reveals extent of attack and gives Libyans a chance to disown mob and offer condolences

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"Better security would not have stopped this," said Adel Ibrahim, the owner of the accommodation building where blood is now spattered beneath a hole smashed in a wall by a heavy projectile. "A security unit is fine if you are facing 10 persons, but there were 400 attackers. [The Americans] would have needed an army to stop them."

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There was confusion as the civilians unloaded them from two private cars which had come tearing into the hospital grounds. "He had no form of identification on him," Jehani said. "One of the people with him said: 'This is the ambassador. The ambassador is suffocating from the smoke.'" Emergency staff had heard the sound of fighting hours before and sent an ambulance, but it became lost in the confusion. "We tried to revive him," Jehani said. He did not finish the sentence.

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Sadness is everywhere in the city whose proud boast is that it was the cradle of last year's revolution. A Libyan photographer inside the ruined compound came over to offer an unsolicited apology. "We are not all like this," he insisted. "Libyans do not approve of this."

Looks like matters may worsen, as the US Homeland Security warnings are going up. If the US happens to get attacked, one can write off the elections, marshall law begins, and if Romney wants to criticize he can wind up in jail. imho

www.huffingtonpost.com... Lid%3D205285

Middle East Protests: Violence Could Spread To U.S; FBI, Homeland Security Joint Bulletin Puts First Responders On Alert

"Additionally," the bulletin continues, "we judge that violent extremist groups in the United States could exploit anger over the film to advance their recruitment efforts."

"Although there has been no violent reaction to the film in the Homeland thus far," a copy of the bulletin obtained by CNN states, "the risk of violence could increase both at home and abroad as the film continues to gain attention."

and the problems appear to escallate on Friday in the Middle East:

www.washingtonpost.com... y.html

More protests break out in Muslim world as U.S. appeals for calm


But Morsi also denounced the film and called on “the American people” to “declare their rejection” of such provocations. His Muslim Brotherhood movement joined other groups in calling for major but peaceful anti-U.S. demonstrations Friday, the traditional day of protest in the Muslim world and a time when appeals for tolerance will be tested.

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They and the United States, she said, must “recommit ourselves to working toward a future marked by understanding and acceptance rather than distrust, hatred and fear. We can pledge that whenever one person speaks out in ignorance and bigotry, ten voices will answer.”

Reckless Romney in huge political trouble over the Libya problems remarks, and even Russia nails Romney on Libya remarks:

www.nationalmemo.com...

Romney’s Humiliation Grows As Facts Emerge In Libya Episode

As essential facts emerge concerning the September 11 incident in Libya that led to the deaths of Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other American embassy staffers, it becomes increasingly obvious that Mitt Romney should have kept his noxious, uninformed, and opportunistic remarks to himself. But Romney’s comments criticizing US diplomatic personnel in the wake of that tragedy have proved him unfit for leadership, even without the damning information that has made him look foolish as well.

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Even if the film’s producers weren’t a bunch of crooks and cranks, there would be no contradiction between defending their freedom of speech, as a matter of principle, and criticizing their offensive propaganda. The American values that Romney pretends to uphold – even as he prepares to kowtow to the authoritarians at the Values Voters Summit – certainly don’t prohibit US officials abroad or at home from speaking out against attempts to inflame religious hostility.

And the Putin insights on Romney:

www.nationalmemo.com...

Putin Thanks Romney For Reckless Remarks

Putin’s comments reinforce the serious policy implications that come along with Romney’s bombastic rhetoric. Although his stance on Russia has primarily been met with mockery — as when Senator John Kerry joked at the Democratic Convention that “Mitt Romney talks like he’s only seen Russia by watching Rocky IV” — nuclear security is clearly no laughing matter. That Romney has managed to damage U.S.-Russian relations without even holding a government job should be filed along with his bungled response to the current crisis in Libya and his reckless remarks in Jerusalem over the summer as reasons to seriously doubt his capacity to manage American foreign policy.

More insights into where and how the film was done, and the LA County Sheriff takes down the movie. There are about 2 million Iranians that live in LA County.

www.huffingtonpost.com... mlws-main-nb%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk1%26pLid%3D205527

'Innocence Of Muslims' Shot On Hollywood Set, Film Permit Connected To Christian Charity

Christian charity.

"The Innocence of Muslims" was partially filmed on a set built for the CBS TV show "JAG" by Paramount's TV unit, according to The Hollywood Reporter. Portions of the low-budget film were shot in Santa Clarita, Calif., on an area of the Blue Cloud Film Ranch called “Baghdad Square." This set has been used by TV and movie productions -- including "Iron Man," "Arrested Development" and "CSI" -- to recreate Middle Eastern war zones.

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The permit for "The Innocence of Muslims," which was filmed in Los Angeles County in August 2011 under the title "Desert Warriors," has been pulled from public view by the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department over safety concerns, TheWrap reported.

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Nakoula is a Coptic Christian from Cerritos, according to the L.A. Times.

Coptic Christians stem from Egypt. Egypt is primarily Muslum, and they have great tolerance toward Christians. The Christians usually get to live outside the city on a Mesa area and the work they are allowed to do is garbage collection. The Coptic Christians also like to raise pigs to eat, and the Muslums raid their area and kill off their pigs from time to time, as it goes against the Muslum codes.

It might not be good for Coptic Christians in Egypt after all is said and done.

It appears Google may like all the damage the video is doing in the Middle East, as the refuse to take down the film causing all the problems with riots, imho:

www.reuters.com...

Google rejects White House request to pull Mohammad film clip

(Reuters) - Google Inc rejected a request by the White House on Friday to reconsider its decision to keep online a controversial YouTube movie clip that has ignited anti-American protests in the Middle East.

The Internet company said it was censoring the video in India and Indonesia after blocking it on Wednesday in Egypt and Libya, where U.S. embassies have been stormed by protestors enraged over depiction of the Prophet Mohammad as a fraud and philanderer.

On Tuesday, the U.S. Ambassador to Libya and three other Americans were killed in a fiery siege on the embassy in Benghazi.

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U.S. authorities said on Friday that they were investigating whether the film's producer, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a 55-year old Egyptian Coptic Christian living in Southern California, had violated terms of his prison release. Basseley was convicted in 2010 for bank fraud and released from prison on probation last June.

It appears the Feds might be going after the Christian movie maker, that is also into bank fraud and illegal drugs:

www.huffingtonpost.com... 5953

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, Man Linked To Anti-Islam Film, Taken In For Questioning

It also appears the Church of Alexandria Christian Communities in Egypt might be worried about this film:

www.npr.org...

Coptic Christians In U.S. Fear 'Terrible' Reaction In Egypt To Muhammad Film

As NPR has reported in the past, the community has been the target of violence in Egypt. Saad says the community's situation now — after the movie — is more tenuous.

"The reaction in Egypt is going to be terrible," he said. "Without movies, it's been miserable."

And one begins to notice the kind of damages one Christian Extremist that somehow got several million dollars to make a faked up film can do to affairs of state due to their religious insanity. imho

news.yahoo.com...

Al Qaeda in Yemen urges Muslims to kill U.S. diplomats over film

DUBAI (Reuters) - The Yemen-based branch of al Qaeda urged Muslims to step up protests and kill more U.S. diplomats in Muslim countries after a U.S.-made film mocking the Prophet Mohammad which it said was another chapter in the "crusader wars" against Islam.

reply to post by MagnumOpus


Reuters isn't exactly accurate. The White House asked YouTube to verify that the video met it's terms of service, and Google declared that in fact it did.

Perhaps, if Christianty wants to start a war with Islam, the same rules for Israel and their games to start a war with Iran need to apply. If you start the war, you are on your own.

hosted.ap.org...

US scrambles to rush spies, drones to Libya

Intelligence officials are reviewing telephone and radio intercepts, computer traffic, satellite images and other clues from the days before the attacks - the kinds of material routinely gathered in a conflict zone where al-Qaida affiliates are known to operate - and Libyan law enforcement has made some arrests. But investigators have found no evidence pointing conclusively to a particular group or to indicate the attack was planned, White House spokesman Jay Carney said, adding, "This is obviously under investigation."

Obviously, allowing these various hate missions of one religion against the other can literally tear America into non-existance, so some other means have to come into play.

If Israel wants a war with Iran, then let them fire the first shot and put Netanhahu on the front lines.

If Christians want a war against Islam of the Middle East, then get their churches emptied and sent to the Middle East with gun they purchased with their own money.


The US Govt should not be forced into sustaining religious insanity.

it appears there is a trail of con artists and fake names for the trailer and perhaps a movie.

rt.com...

Porn director pegged as man who shot now-infamous anti-Islam film

According to the cast and crew of "The Innocence of Muslims," the man previously thought to have directed it – Nakoula Basseley Nakoula – was just the producer. The moviemaker, it turns out, is known for his work in soft-core porn

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And the casting call, originally posted on Craigslist but still available in a cached version here, also lists Roberts as the director.

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What everyone, including the police, the politicians and the people, want to know, is whose idea was it to make the movie in the first place.
But that mystery is yet to be solved.

The chase is on to find the person and or persons behind this movie and or Trailer. If it is a porn person, that is highly dominated by Jewish in Hollywood, and they would have the money to make this production.

www.presstv.ir...

October surprise to Carterize Obama

The main spokesperson and organizer for SIOA is Pamela Geller, a notorious professional Islamophobe and the hostess of the Atlas Shrugs blog. Geller, despite her venom, enjoys access to the US mainstream media. The SIOA rally just mentioned was also addressed via video link by Ambassador John Bolton, a top neocon, close adviser to Romney, and widely touted as a possible Secretary of State in a future Romney regime. Another speaker at this rally was the Netherlands xenophobic politician Geert Wilders, who also wanted to block the mosque. Wilders’ party has just suffered heavy losses in the Netherlands elections earlier this week.

It is indeed a sordid trail that these trouble makers left. But it appears one that will lead to Neo-Cons, the Zionists, and perhaps a Hollywood porn person.

Time will tell, as the digging will find the culprits.

reply to post by MagnumOpus

your little bible down to Israel and preach on the street corner and see how long your freedom of speech lasts there. Most of the world doesn't find any value in your Jesus games to make him god.

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If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own...If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you
John15

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Not sure what you are attempting to say. Plus, the link appears not to work.

The Mystery of how an Egyptian Christian suddenly became loaded with money to make a Hollywood movie has yet to be explained well. The Egyptian Christian turns out to be a criminal rip off artist, who then fingers a Hollywood Porn production artist as the money man behind the film's trailer that set off mobs around the Islamic world. Such a made in Hollywood film that has inflamed the world of Islam at a critical time in the US elections appears to be more than coincidence...

www.presstv.ir...

Anti-Islam film aims to force Obama support Israel attack on Iran

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has wished all his life for a final war between his form of Zionism and Islam, with Christians being used as dupes by the Zionists to advance the Israeli cause. This final battle between the Jewish God Jehovah and the Muslim God Allah is Netanyahu’s Gotterdammerung.

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Although the Israeli-influenced US corporate media worked overtime trying to distance from early reports that the anti-Muslim film was funded by 100 Jewish donors and involved an Israeli national named Sam Bacile, the attempt to place blame on Egyptian-American Christian Copts began to fall flat in the face of continued evidence of Israeli involvement in the production of the video, which even involved Southern California’s heterosexual and homosexual pornographic movie industry, an industry dominated by American and Israeli Jews.

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The end game for Netanyahu is to force Obama into supporting an Israeli military attack on Iran or be replaced by Romney who has signed on to every one of Netanyahu’s positions, from scrapping the two-state solution of Israel and Palestine to attacking Iran.

Netanyahu’s right-wing extremism risks plunging the world into regional and global war, a situation that will see Netanyahu’s dreams of the final battle between Jehovah and Allah come to fruition.

Then there is the strong appearance that the Romney campaign is courting the Zionists and promising to blow up Iran for Israel, then where is the Romney money coming from.

www.presstv.ir...

Romney tied to terrorism and poll rigging

Two films are shocking the world, one the "Innocence of Muslims," a "blue screen" hack job made in a studio for the CATO Institute. One is of Mitt Romney plotting what may well be not just election rigging but acts of political terrorism.

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Romney openly admits that his campaign will be based on the use of Israel and other terror groups to damage the international reputation of the United States as much as possible, no matter how many die.

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This is what makes Romney a sociopath. Veterans Today columnist, Michael Chester describes his analysis of Romney:
“Another good job for a sociopath is as a vulture capitalist. This is a person who takes control of a valuable company, sucks out all of the money and discards what is left. He has no regard for those individuals who have spent their lives building a company they can be proud of or the employees that lose their jobs as a result. His only concern is how much money can be made.

And the film's fallout continues into Australia and Indonesia. And really the fallout began in the US, with endorsements that could well start WWIII via corrupt elections dealing with foreign interests.

www.presstv.ir...

Washington warns Israel over possible attack on Iran

Washington has warned Israeli officials that an attack on Iran will likely cause Egypt and Jordan to annul their peace agreements with Israel.

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Israel has carried out a number of war games and drills as Tel Aviv steps up its war rhetoric against Iran under the pretext that Iran’s nuclear energy program includes a military component.

Iran has refuted the allegations maintaining that as a signatory to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and a committed member of the International Atomic Energy Agency, it has every right to develop and acquire the nuclear technology for peaceful purposes.

Iranian officials have also promised a crushing response to any act of aggression against the Islamic Republic.

And the protests that this rigged movie trailer made---continue around the world

www.telegraph.co.uk... tml


Middle East protests: mobs attack six Western embassies as protesters fill streets

Furious mobs attacked at least six Western embassies across the Muslim world, with protesters filling the streets in another eight countries, as crowds vented their rage over a video defaming the Prophet Mohammed.

It appears the finger of what and who is trying to manipulate the US Elections and start World War Three is getting close to the criminal master minds and seeing those pulling the strings are outside the US foreign interests.

It appears the games the CIA used to screw up elections in other countries are now being used against the US by foreign operative that appear more the intent of enemy operations against the US.

It appears the Egyptian Christian that was involved with the anti-Islam Film that caused much problems in the Islamic world will get a return trip to prison.

Article includes a photo for the person.

www.thesmokinggun.com...

Feds Arrest Producer Of Controversial Anti-Islam Film On Probation Violation Charge

Citing Nakoula’s “lengthy pattern of deception,” a federal magistrate this afternoon ordered him held without bond for alleged probation violations, including making false statements to his probation officer and using aliases. The judge rejected a plea from Nakoula’s lawyer, who argued that the convicted felon’s life would be in danger at an L.A. lockup due to the facility's large population of Muslim inmates. Nakoula will remain in custody in in advance of a probation revocation hearing, the date for which has yet to be scheduled.)