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Originally posted by TrueBlood
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by TrueBlood
All I see is people worship Steve Jobs and this is the vulture-like cut throat business model that he used. This is how he made his billions. Slave labor. Steve Jobs was nothing more than a modern day slave master and, here's the kicker, he couldn't even donate a single cent to charity on his death bed. I don't even want to hear this "he made it himself he can do what he wants with it" because that's bull. He didn't make a dime. He used slaves to make his fortune. I hope to God he's burning in hell right now.
Go ahead and try and rid your house of things not made by slaves...
Then get off your high horse and realise Jobs simply did what every other manufacturer did.
You are right Jobs wasn't the only person to use this model, but it still doesn't make it any less disgusting. The fact is, we would have jobs in this country if there were restrictions placed on big business. Now what would you call shipping a nation's entire industry to a foreign nation? I'd call it treason. I think every single CEO of these corporations should be tried for treason. And then they should be tried for crimes against humanity.
America needs to stop worshiping big business and people like yourself need to stop defending scum like Jobs. If you honestly think that I'm on a high horse simply because I think slavery is wrong there is obviously something wrong going on in your head.
Originally posted by TrueBlood
reply to post by longlostbrother
Just because I support him doesn't mean I agree with every word that comes out of his mouth.
We oppose laws infringing on children's rights to work or learn, such as child labor laws and compulsory education laws.
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by TrueBlood
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by TrueBlood
All I see is people worship Steve Jobs and this is the vulture-like cut throat business model that he used. This is how he made his billions. Slave labor. Steve Jobs was nothing more than a modern day slave master and, here's the kicker, he couldn't even donate a single cent to charity on his death bed. I don't even want to hear this "he made it himself he can do what he wants with it" because that's bull. He didn't make a dime. He used slaves to make his fortune. I hope to God he's burning in hell right now.
Go ahead and try and rid your house of things not made by slaves...
Then get off your high horse and realise Jobs simply did what every other manufacturer did.
You are right Jobs wasn't the only person to use this model, but it still doesn't make it any less disgusting. The fact is, we would have jobs in this country if there were restrictions placed on big business. Now what would you call shipping a nation's entire industry to a foreign nation? I'd call it treason. I think every single CEO of these corporations should be tried for treason. And then they should be tried for crimes against humanity.
America needs to stop worshiping big business and people like yourself need to stop defending scum like Jobs. If you honestly think that I'm on a high horse simply because I think slavery is wrong there is obviously something wrong going on in your head.
I think you're on a high horse, because you support slavery pretty much every time you buy something, and at the same time you wish a few random people would burn in hell... it's hugely hypocritical... see just how long you can buying only things made in first world countries... I would bet less than a week.
So, you're a hypocrite...
And you're gonna vote for a guy who thinks this "horrible evil monster" is his favourite businessman...
Because you are clueless...
I DON'T like or own Apple products, and I have boycotted companies like Nike for decades, because they use slaves... what have YOU actually done?
I mean, besides moan, and support politicians that idolise Jobs?
Originally posted by TrueBlood
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by TrueBlood
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by TrueBlood
All I see is people worship Steve Jobs and this is the vulture-like cut throat business model that he used. This is how he made his billions. Slave labor. Steve Jobs was nothing more than a modern day slave master and, here's the kicker, he couldn't even donate a single cent to charity on his death bed. I don't even want to hear this "he made it himself he can do what he wants with it" because that's bull. He didn't make a dime. He used slaves to make his fortune. I hope to God he's burning in hell right now.
Go ahead and try and rid your house of things not made by slaves...
Then get off your high horse and realise Jobs simply did what every other manufacturer did.
You are right Jobs wasn't the only person to use this model, but it still doesn't make it any less disgusting. The fact is, we would have jobs in this country if there were restrictions placed on big business. Now what would you call shipping a nation's entire industry to a foreign nation? I'd call it treason. I think every single CEO of these corporations should be tried for treason. And then they should be tried for crimes against humanity.
America needs to stop worshiping big business and people like yourself need to stop defending scum like Jobs. If you honestly think that I'm on a high horse simply because I think slavery is wrong there is obviously something wrong going on in your head.
I think you're on a high horse, because you support slavery pretty much every time you buy something, and at the same time you wish a few random people would burn in hell... it's hugely hypocritical... see just how long you can buying only things made in first world countries... I would bet less than a week.
So, you're a hypocrite...
And you're gonna vote for a guy who thinks this "horrible evil monster" is his favourite businessman...
Because you are clueless...
I DON'T like or own Apple products, and I have boycotted companies like Nike for decades, because they use slaves... what have YOU actually done?
I mean, besides moan, and support politicians that idolise Jobs?
I'm a hypocrite because Gary Johnson said something nice about Steve Jobs but it's okay for you to boycott companies while defending the people running them. I'm on a high horse because you assume without any statement on my part that I purchase slave made products. I'm clueless because I have a link in my signature that doesn't involve Obama or Romney. Thank you for clearing that up. The clouds have parted and the glorious rays of logical sunlight have shined through.
I hope to God Steve Jobs is burning in hell. I do not wish a thing. Please do not twist my words. Now if you don't mind me I will continue on my evil business man rant because maybe if enough people speak up Americans might finally understand why they're sitting at home unemployed.
My views on charity are very simple. I do not consider it a major virtue and, above all, I do not consider it a moral duty. There is nothing wrong in helping other people, if and when they are worthy of the help and you can afford to help them. I regard charity as a marginal issue. What I am fighting is the idea that charity is a moral duty and a primary virtue.
You understand that Libertarians would make THIS problem MUCH worse... by deregulating EVERYTHING, and ENCOURAGING slavery.
Originally posted by GarrusVasNormandy
Do you believe you would have slave factories inside the U.S.? I don't.
Originally posted by GarrusVasNormandy
reply to post by longlostbrother
You understand that Libertarians would make THIS problem MUCH worse... by deregulating EVERYTHING, and ENCOURAGING slavery.
Do you panic easily, or are you being incorrect on purpose?
Forcing the Gov to have less control and influence in the economy means that individual companies can thrive more easily without having to obey a certain set of rules.
But in order to do that, you don't need to ban the current anti-slavery laws. Much the opposite. If more freedom is given to economy, and the Gov has less influence in the matter, then the governmental agencies have moretime and more resources to control what actually needs to be controlled.
Like, for instance, the quality of the labor being used.
Another consequence of deregulating the whole process would be the return of a lot of industries to the U.S. for production. Do you believe you would have slave factories inside the U.S.? I don't.
Originally posted by TrueBlood
Originally posted by GarrusVasNormandy
Do you believe you would have slave factories inside the U.S.? I don't.
We kinda already do. They're called prisons and we have the world's largest prison population. Just pointing that out.
Originally posted by TrueBlood
reply to post by longlostbrother
I built this computer. I know where every part in it came from and who created them. No slaves were used.
I think charity should be optional... that's why you call it charity. I never said Jobs was burning in hell because he refused to give to charity. I said he was burning in hell because of the slave labor he used to acquire his wealth. Choosing not to donate to charity just adds to his greed.
Garrus summed up the rest rather well.
Originally posted by newsaddict
I like Apple products.
I mean, I'm no hipster but you know, they make good stuff.
We kinda already do. They're called prisons and we have the world's largest prison population. Just pointing that out.
Originally posted by GarrusVasNormandy
reply to post by TrueBlood
We kinda already do. They're called prisons and we have the world's largest prison population. Just pointing that out.
Yes, but that isn't a job. That's a consequence of an aggressive police policy and laws that increased the inmate population, and amount of arrests.
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by TrueBlood
reply to post by longlostbrother
I built this computer. I know where every part in it came from and who created them. No slaves were used.
I think charity should be optional... that's why you call it charity. I never said Jobs was burning in hell because he refused to give to charity. I said he was burning in hell because of the slave labor he used to acquire his wealth. Choosing not to donate to charity just adds to his greed.
Garrus summed up the rest rather well.
That's total BS. Why lie about that?
Who made the RAM?
Motherboard?
Fans?
Cables?
Go on.
Originally posted by GarrusVasNormandy
reply to post by TrueBlood
We kinda already do. They're called prisons and we have the world's largest prison population. Just pointing that out.
Yes, but that isn't a job. That's a consequence of an aggressive police policy and laws that increased the inmate population, and amount of arrests.
Originally posted by TrueBlood
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by TrueBlood
reply to post by longlostbrother
I built this computer. I know where every part in it came from and who created them. No slaves were used.
I think charity should be optional... that's why you call it charity. I never said Jobs was burning in hell because he refused to give to charity. I said he was burning in hell because of the slave labor he used to acquire his wealth. Choosing not to donate to charity just adds to his greed.
Garrus summed up the rest rather well.
That's total BS. Why lie about that?
Who made the RAM?
Motherboard?
Fans?
Cables?
Go on.
I'm really not going through every part of my computer to name brands. I can tell you that it's as American made as you can get. I support American business when I can. Sometimes you can't find something made here. It happens and there's nothing you can do about it. This isn't even the point though. It should be illegal to use slave labor or import products made by slave labor. In a free nation this should be common sense. In our nation it would bring employment back home.
Originally posted by TrueBlood
reply to post by longlostbrother
. I used to watch the tv until I learned the tv could be watching me.
Originally posted by wmd_2008
Originally posted by TrueBlood
reply to post by longlostbrother
. I used to watch the tv until I learned the tv could be watching me.
So how would that work?