The Politics of Rape

reply to post by inverslyproportional

are you or any others of same opinion posting here aware that the rate of rape in nudist colonies is NILL ??
that's right, naked bodies everywhere but no rape, molestation or such acts recorded.

reagarding "covering up", clearly, in the most extreme case, as stated above, Less is More.

as for your natural excuse -- those same eyes close real easy, should you choose to.
be responsible for yourself, it's the only answer.

Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by Dark Ghost

 

the political aspirations of the feminism movement are its biggest folly.
equality is one thing ... what the feminists desire is something totally different.

edit on 8-9-2012 by Honor93 because: typo

My view can be summed up with a slight re-working of your quote:

the academic aspirations of the Christian fundamentalist movement are its biggest folly.
hypocrisy is one thing... what the Christians demand is something totally the same.

My problem is the agenda of the Christian right-wing to distort and discredit science and academia. Normally I take issue with feminism as I see it as a knee-jerk reaction to Freud, and as a Jungian I find this a frivolous position to take. To try and discredit feminism in the way "Dr" Hansen has tried is really just a transparent attempt to propagate her theologically spun beliefs.

As stated, the linked article in the OP falls on its own merits.

reply to post by cartenz

i didn't explore the merits of the author as you did.
i reviewed it and remembered reading much like it for the past say 40yrs.
it's the same old propaganda which i like to refute with one simple phrase.
if there is no sex, it ain't rape.

reply to post by Dark Ghost


I honestly can't read this..
I tried to. But I couldn't. It was just too stupid.


I stopped when this man claimed that patriarchal families protected young men from being rapists and young women from being raped. History shows neither of these things to be true. If rape were actually reported and treated properly before the past 30 years I bet there would actually be a much higher rate of rapes that occured prior to the 1980s.

Well to address what motivates rape, we must examine the manner of rape. For example, date rape often suggests sexual intent; if you want to knock someone unconscious, chances are that the rape isn't sadistically motivated. Violent rape, on the other hand, isn't so much about having sex as it is about demonstrating power over another being.

Also, women aren't the only ones who get raped; men, however, tend to not report cases of rape.

Sorry, but this is a bunch of bunk. It has been proven time and time again that rape is most often about power. Not about politics. Not about sex.

About power. It's obviously a sexual act. But it all comes down to the power of "you wont say no to me".

There's really not much more to say on the subject, when it is clear that there has not been ANY research put into the statement in the OP.

ETA: I love the "the feminists want you to believe" part of all of this. Talk about blatant ignorance.

Are we talking about a legitimate rape? Or illegitimate rape, theres a big difference between the two~!

Rape is a crime. A crime is breaking the law. A law is created by the government. Our government is republican. Republican governments are political. Rape is political.

Originally posted by Miraj
reply to post by Dark Ghost

 

I honestly can't read this..
I tried to. But I couldn't. It was just too stupid.


I stopped when this man claimed that patriarchal families protected young men from being rapists and young women from being raped. History shows neither of these things to be true. If rape were actually reported and treated properly before the past 30 years I bet there would actually be a much higher rate of rapes that occured prior to the 1980s.

edit on 8-9-2012 by Miraj because: (no reason given)

Then I dont recommend her (I can only assume Trayce Hansen is female by name and picture) dissertation on incest mothers... but some of here "expert" testimony under cross-examination is quite hilarious...

Just found a connection between her and Hartland Inst. these are the faces of pure evil and should be exposed.

Originally posted by GR1ill3d
Are we talking about a legitimate rape? Or illegitimate rape, theres a big difference between the two~!

legitimate rape? Rape is a crime, how can it be legitimate? when a priest/politician/policeman does it?

or am I not getting sarcasm?

reply to post by Dark Ghost

“Rape isn’t about sex!” That’s what feminists proclaim. And they’ve declared it so continuously and persuasively over the last few decades, most of our society have come to believe it. The fact is, it’s not true—it’s a myth.

I respectfully disagree with this stance. Rape may be about sex to the rapist, but it is a physical assault upon the victim. There is no splitting hairs on this crime; it is what it is. In my eyes, anyone who advocates for anything to the contrary is equally pathetic as the rapists.

reply to post by LeatherNLace


Evidence supports splitting hairs. I think if we can handle different degrees of murder as a society, we can handle different degrees of sexual assault.

Originally posted by snusfanatic
reply to post by LeatherNLace

 

Evidence supports splitting hairs. I think if we can handle different degrees of murder as a society, we can handle different degrees of sexual assault.

Or we could realize that a predator is a predator, and should be dealt with as such.

Frankly, chemical castration is my first inclination.

Originally posted by snusfanatic
reply to post by LeatherNLace

 

Evidence supports splitting hairs. I think if we can handle different degrees of murder as a society, we can handle different degrees of sexual assault.

There already are differing degrees of sexual assault.

reply to post by captaintyinknots


I personally would support the death penalty for some. But that doesn't mean they all deserve the same sentence. This debate has become a big 'who is more against rape' contest. That's just silly.

Originally posted by snusfanatic
reply to post by captaintyinknots

 

I personally would support the death penalty for some. But that doesn't mean they all deserve the same sentence. This debate has become a big 'who is more against rape' contest. That's just silly.

Not trying to be that way whatsoever. The simple fact is, though, that predators more often than not will repeat the offense if given the chance

What exactly is there agenda anyway? Hasn't it been accomplised for the most part? They now have equal rights? What's left now. Nothing.

Originally posted by snusfanatic
reply to post by LeatherNLace

 

Evidence supports splitting hairs. I think if we can handle different degrees of murder as a society, we can handle different degrees of sexual assault.

we already have different degrees of sexual assault, however, rape is the most severe of them. sounds like you'd prefer to knock it down a notch or two, eh ??

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by snusfanatic
reply to post by LeatherNLace

 

Evidence supports splitting hairs. I think if we can handle different degrees of murder as a society, we can handle different degrees of sexual assault.

Or we could realize that a predator is a predator, and should be dealt with as such.

Frankly, chemical castration is my first inclination.

I dont agree with chemical castration, there was an instance of a rapist (If I could remember jurisdiction I would link it), upon release was chemically castrated and he was later convicted of digital penetration of a minor, castration wont necessarily prevent this occurring. The point being (and denied by some here) that rape is not about sex, but about power.

My preferred resolution is to make rape a capital offence. Removal from both society and the gene-pool.

Originally posted by r2d246
What exactly is there agenda anyway? Hasn't it been accomplised for the most part? They now have equal rights? What's left now. Nothing.

Who is this "they" you are referring to? Women? Are you suggesting the notion that only women can be raped? Or are you suggesting that only women have an agenda, which has given them equal rights and left them with nothing left to accomplish?

Either way; what an ignorant, asinine thing to even suggest.