GOP Senate Candidate Supports Life Sentences For Rape Victims Who Obtain Abortions

Why in the world are the resident ATS Republican shills here talking about Freedom and Liberty? When their party is the one that believes that rules should be made after what the bible says, no one should have abortions because the bible says its bad, gays are not to be allowed to marry because hey jesus says its bad! The republican shills should stop being so hypocritical!

Why in the world are the resident ATS leftist shills here talking about Freedom and Liberty?

When their party is the one that believes that rules should be made after what the church of Government says,everyone should have abortions,and they should have free contraception, and peoples bedroons are suppose to be private but what the hell make everyone aware and force them in to acceptance of their lifestyle choices even tho it was never about marriage or acceptance, it was all about money to give their other haves the ability to take everything they own, the house,the car, the kitchen sink the rv, and alimony,and palimony hell those evil righties!!

The republican shills should stop being so hypocritical!

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Honor93

 

Go ask Angelina Jolie why didn't she adopt American kids eh.

Deflected nothing can't help if people don't like the answers they get however they are free to write their own responses to get the answers they want.

why should i or you care what AJ's reasons were ??
are you trying to adopt ?? i'm not.
if that system needs tweaking, fine, do it.
don't force your nonsense reasoning for totally irrational beliefs on anyone other than yourself.

i want an answer that is relative to the question posed.
when did common courtesy become difficult for you ?
(nvrmnd - i forgot it's election season)
please, save this childish circle jerk for a better topic.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Honor93

 

It's easy to talk about orphanages and then get mad when people tell you the truth that you cannot just go rescue these kids. You have to go through a process, and you never even addressed my post about having to go abroad because I have family who had to go to Chile.

You are defending abortion and then have some self righteous opinion about orphanages. You feel that killing the unborn is "saving:" them from living unwanted lives in orphanages. The irony is just staggering.

this topic isn't about your family traveling abroad or overseas adoptions or orphanages ... hence, i'm not going to comment, i like my membership.

why aren't you commenting on my post about submitting relative legislation punishing those who father unwanted children on pg 3 ??

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

You are defending abortion

no, i am pro-choice, however, i always defend life to the best of my ability.
you are being sensationally foolish.

and then have some self righteous opinion about orphanages.

self righteous ? hardly or i would have adopted a bunch myself.
point is, for every argument based on (someone will want/care for/raise them) there is a clear, obvious and excessive reason that that argument is totally irrelevant.

You feel that killing the unborn is "saving:" them from living unwanted lives in orphanages. The irony is just staggering.

no, i believe that medicine can assist with the removal of a parasite ... and, until that parasite can exist without its host, it is nothing more.

and don't give me the "it has feelings" BS cause of course it does, it's a parasite, plain and simple.
if that's too cold for you, think along the lines of "Body Snatchers" or something sci-fi and creepy because when the parasite was not invited or wanted, it should be removed.

do you keep a tick once it has embedded itself under your skin ???
it's alive, it's sucking your blood, it probably has babies of its own ... is it fair for you to remove/kill it ??

how 'bout a worm ?? tapeworm, roundworm, ringworm ???
do you keep'em, feed'em and pray they don't kill ya ??
what RIGHT do you have to remove said parasite ??

reply to post by Honor93


I just said I was leaving the thread, but I will say that your micromanaging my comments about people traveling abroad to adopt while you want to talk about legislation punishing men suggests that you feel your ideas are worth something and mine are not. I didn't comment on your suggestion because I missed it while you were bashing Neo for not saving every child in all orphanages. Again this is the thinking of Utopians who have the ultimate sense that their way of doing things is going to fix the world.
By the way Neo's question is completely legitimate in my view. Not only did Angelina go abroad instead of adopting American children, but so did Madonna.

reply to post by Honor93


No, I am not being sensationally foolish. You just believe you must be right and therefore anyone who disagrees is foolish.
I'm truly sorry to hear that. I had a different impression of you before somehow...

But we are getting nowhere with this. Perhaps we can all just calm down and get some rest.

reply to post by neo96

Neo, just so you won't have to search them out, either question would be nice.

this one ...

perhaps, more appropriate legislation should read something like ... All men who create an unwanted pregnancy shall be immediately castrated.
(equal punishment / life sentence, wouldn't you agree Neo?)

or this one ...

but there are also thousands if not millions of couples who can't have children who could and would give that "burden" a chance at life as it should.
*emphasis mine*

IF this is so true, why do we have any orphanages ??

and what about those women who would now be in jail ??
why not just force them to adopt since they chose to have an abortion ?
oh, that's right, the State wouldn't make as much $$$$$$$

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
you wanna discuss your family, have at it.
i am not obligated to respond.

you instructed me to read it, i did and i commented, what more do you want?

since i may be missing the corellation, what does adoption have to do with punishing women who abort ??
you do see how punishing the "fathers" applies, don't you?

fairplay is utopian thinking ?? hmmmm, cool, i could get used to that.

what do celebrity adoptions have to do with this discussion ??
should we be jailing the celebs who've had abortions ??
maybe them first since it's good for publicity and all

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Honor93

 

No, I am not being sensationally foolish. You just believe you must be right and therefore anyone who disagrees is foolish.
I'm truly sorry to hear that. I had a different impression of you before somehow...

But we are getting nowhere with this. Perhaps we can all just calm down and get some rest.

edit on 5-9-2012 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)

uhuh. well, you are certainly not being reasonable.
impressions change, but are you sure we've crossed paths previously?
enjoy your nap.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


There is a HUGE difference in making an off handed comment and supporting legislature. Now if you said Biden was supporting the abolishing of civil rights you may have something but he isn't. Your argument is null and void, and clearly the republican party is full of nut bag morons that apparently didn't see a health video in the last 30 years.

This is really scary and gross.......

Originally posted by TheOneElectric
I think RealSpoke was correct in his assessment of the GOP.
The party of Low IQ indeed.

Like I've said before .... BOTH SIDES have complete moron extremists who claim to be part of a poltiical party - be it democrat or republican. To broad brush stroke the entire Republican party because of the words of a CANDIDATE is the same as broad brush stroking the entire Democratic party because of the words of an idiot CELEBRITY in Hollywood (Outspoken Democrat activist Ellen Barkin who very publically wished horrible DEATH upon everyone at the Republican National Convention).

Obviously this guy is a nutter. So is Ellen Barkin.
To say all republicans or all democrats are represented by these extremists is absurd.

Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by neo96

 

but there are also thousands if not millions of couples who can't have children who could and would give that "burden" a chance at life as it should.

IF this is so true, why do we have any orphanages ??

Have you ever tried to adopt here in the USA? We have. The rules and regulations are absurd. And they change state by state. I swear the states don't want children adopted out. I really do.

When we were in Alabama we tried to adopt stateside. We went through the state, through church groups, through private agencies ... etc etc. Because I was 35 and my husband was 37, we were instantly cut off from MANY of these organizations. We were 'too old'. And the waiting list was 8 years .... And when we told the state that we were open to inter-racial adoptions, they said they didn't like to do that because they wanted children raised by parents who were of the same background.

(that was 18 years ago .. I don't know if things have changed or not).
So we went overseas. We ended up adopting from Bolivia.

Adoption isn't as easy as people think.

Originally posted by TheOneElectric
I think RealSpoke was correct in his assessment of the GOP.

The party of Low IQ indeed.

reply to post by thepresident

Big Government Neo, enjoy your big government and all the welfare dude.

I'm gonna send you a U2U election night buddy

Closet statist unite!

LOL

The GOP always has a sinister background motivation for all of their stances. This is another plot to fill their privatized fascist prisons they love so dearly. They can then claim they help create jobs!!

Originally posted by RealSpoke
You can choose to ignore the extremitization of your party, I won't. Hopefully no one else will either.

1 - It's not MY PARTY. That's a lie.

2 - I do not ignore Republican extremists. I do not ignore Democrat extremists either.

3 - You ignore the extremists of YOUR party ... perhaps you should stop doing that before you lecture others .. and lecture them wrongly I might add.

reply to post by FlyersFan


I'm not a dem.

Could you please show me the WIDESPREAD extremism coming from democratic party politicans?

Originally posted by RealSpoke
The GOP always has a sinister background motivation for all of their stances. This is another plot to fill their privatized fascist prisons they love so dearly. They can then claim they help create jobs!!

Have you ever looked into who is laundering all of the drug money?
Big Banks.....

UBS , one of the largest Swiss banks...you know where all those secret bank accounts
are....the ones John Cornzine and Robert Wolf keep secrets about.

Do you think that Wolf and Obama have any secrets?

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Do you know how hard it is to adopt in this country? Why do you think so many have to go to Africa and Chile and other places to adopt?

edit on 5-9-2012 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)

Then why would you suggest a baby be given up for adoption instead of aborted if even according to you, it is probably not going to be adopted?

You cannot have it both ways. Either adoption is a great solution and you are about to start doing it or it is not a great solution.