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posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 09:17 AM
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That's not the reason. You clain to have a 174iq, something statistically only one out of two and a half million would mark. Then you mention jargle about science as if you knew what you're talking about. You claim Einstein's IQ was 162...got news for you...he never took one
Many have assumed he would do "poorly" compared to what was expected of him...as do most geniuses.

You claim to have far too many roles for the same 168hr workweek. You know how many people claim to have an IQ over 160 online, and specifically on this forum?? I have no qualms about murder, and realize morality has no objective existence...it's but an extension of the survival instinct from an expanded sense of self. If our empathy is not expanded to all of humanity equally, options such as murder become a possibility under the correct circumstances.

You do well to cover your tracks, but I simply don't buy your story. That high of an IQ and you suck at grammar?? I can see someone scoring outstanding in anything visually related, while doing poorly at anything verbally related, and perhaps hitting the 130's as a composite score, but that's about it.

I'm wondering what test you took. as far as I know the militaries asvab doesn't equate to an actual IQ test, yet the core does have a high G load. I took it a while back, scored 99th percentile, and found that the best someone could figure from this result is an IQ of 127+...



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 09:57 AM
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I would have to agree with you moniesisfun, only in that I do not see evidence of intelligence by the self-proclaimed intelligent guy either. I also do not see murder as a justifiable act. I do not believe anyone has a right to any act of violence accept through self-defense. Surely, going to another country and calling it "preemptive" is not self-defense but, an offensive action (I guess he calls this "business") I call it crimes against humanity for a buck. From what I gather since this guy who prides himself on moral flexibility who and uses fear for obedience as more of a menace to humanity and delusional...but that is just my opinion of course.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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Well I must admit to not seeing things in black and white as regards to morality. I see it in layers. I do my best to integrate each layer, and come up with the best decision.

My overall assessment uses very simple criteria: that which causes the least harm, and is most efficient while being effective. The problem is often that I can empathize with more than one party, and have trouble assigning what exactly is best. This leads to me usually playing a diplomatic role between opposing parties (even if I'm one of them). Sometimes, I see force as necessary. There are certain types of individuals who simply don't learn any other way. You can use force and still be in a state of compassion. It's context dependent.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 04:37 PM
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I agree there is a lot of things that are not black and white. I do however do not believe for a minute another has a right to force their will on another for their own selfish interests,beliefs or a paycheck. I see the use the violence only for defense.... this I see in black and white.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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I trust you're not only including outright aggression, but passive aggression in that as well.

Some fools need to be taught through aggressive means, because they are causing so much damage with their passive aggression.



posted on Sep, 20 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by OldSchoolMom
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So, if I understand correctly, you instill fear into men to get them to carry our bombing missions that ultimately kill people?
WOW!....Uhhh...NO! I instill Fear into individuals who only can be motivated to do the right thing by Fear of the Repercussions that will occur if they do not.

I would LOVE a JOB where all that is required is a Mutual Understanding based upon a common goal of doing the right thing. These JOB's are Far and in between. Split Infinity



posted on Sep, 20 2012 @ 12:27 AM
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Well...First of all...Einstein was subject to a massive variety of tests as well as multiple requests that his BRAIN be removed along with his spinal cord for Scientific Study after he died. He did take Multiple IQ Tests and the one he scored 162 on was a Test devised by several Professors at Princeton...and he very much like myself...did not think much of IQ Tests as in both our cases...we both found that the questions asked that had Multiple Choice Answers...usually did not contain an answer that was better suited to the question.

Stanford-Binet...I believe was one of the IQ tests I took and there was also later the WAIS-III. The tests that the Military REALLY are interested in are the Able 11 Social and Able 12 Psych. These allow them to get a gauge on a persons Moral Flexibility.

You are right about one thing...only one person in several Million score above 160. And YES...as I have admitted on multiple occasions...I can Understand Quantum Mechanic Concepts as they are connective to Infinite Alternate Divergent Universal Realities which are the basis for Quantum Particle Change of Existence within our Multiversal Group of Divergent Universal realities with the same Physical and Natural laws....dependent upon PROBABILITY, CHOICE and thus cause and effect....but I can not find my Sunglasses or Keys! LOL!
Split Infinity



posted on Sep, 20 2012 @ 12:34 AM
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Welcome aboard! I think you are going to like it here. I know I do! Lots of awesome people and great conversations...


See you around



posted on Sep, 20 2012 @ 02:15 AM
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Originally posted by OldSchoolMom
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I would have to agree with you moniesisfun, only in that I do not see evidence of intelligence by the self-proclaimed intelligent guy either. I also do not see murder as a justifiable act. I do not believe anyone has a right to any act of violence accept through self-defense. Surely, going to another country and calling it "preemptive" is not self-defense but, an offensive action (I guess he calls this "business") I call it crimes against humanity for a buck. From what I gather since this guy who prides himself on moral flexibility who and uses fear for obedience as more of a menace to humanity and delusional...but that is just my opinion of course.


You have provided me to use your statement and belief system as an EXAMPLE of what I have to deal with on occasion. When I am asked to do a JOB...the Group of People are Informed I and my Team are coming. I am being sent to SOLVE A PROBLEM that so far has gone unsolved and the use of Force is not desired because the situation...if handled properly...may be able to be salvaged. So we have the disadvantage in that THEY KNOW WE ARE COMING! They have the disadvantage in that...WE ARE VERY GOOD AT WHAT WE DO! It is my job to find the RIGHT PEOPLE...the people who control the situation on the ground. It is also my job to convince them that they have a CHOICE which can be beneficial to both parties as well as convey to them that if we cannot come to an agreement...Force will be applied. FORCE of such Nature that they will NOT SURVIVE. I am also tasked with being able to deal with a person that I KNOW WANTS TO KILL ME. Thus I have to make it clear to them or HIM...the Leader...that we are MUCH BETTER AT THAT GAME THEN THEY ARE! EGO's are involved, Pride, Religion...I make it be KNOWN to them...I DON'T CARE! All the posturing and Bravado in the World does not matter. Either make a choice and STAY ALIVE AND BENEFIT...or make another choice and DIE! Money is usually involved and when dealing with a Religious Holy Warrior...I need to allow them an out for their EGO's Sake and make it seem as if it was THEIR IDEA! If I do not allow this OUT...they may be bound by Honor to attack us which would cost them their lives. WE ARE THE REAL PEOPLE TO FEAR...but we are also the RIGHT PEOPLE TO TRUST! I will not allow a deal I have made to be used as a SET UP! THAT will cause damage to our REP. in that OUR WORD IS OUR BOND! This type of thing is important to a STONE AGE REGION where word gets around QUICKLY! These Groups have been lied to and killed before over DEALS AND WORDS...thus it is important that my Team and I ALWAYS KEEP OUR END. I know I am talking to the WRONG PEOPLE when there are too many smiles and we leave quick as it means a Bomb is about to detonate. So I NEVER BLUFF and keep my word...and part of keeping your word and when this aspect of myself has gotten around...it also means that if I say IF I PAY YOU AND YOU DO NOT KEEP YOUR END OF THE DEAL...I WILL COMEBACK AND KILL YOU! From experience...they know it is true! Split Infinity



posted on Sep, 20 2012 @ 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
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Well...First of all...Einstein was subject to a massive variety of tests as well as multiple requests that his BRAIN be removed along with his spinal cord for Scientific Study after he died. He did take Multiple IQ Tests and the one he scored 162 on was a Test devised by several Professors at Princeton...


Bull#. He never took one.


Stanford-Binet...I believe was one of the IQ tests I took and there was also later the WAIS-III. The tests that the Military REALLY are interested in are the Able 11 Social and Able 12 Psych. These allow them to get a gauge on a persons Moral Flexibility.


Neither of those tests go over 4 standard deviations above the norm. Again, bull#.


You are right about one thing...only one person in several Million score above 160.


This is incorrect. I'm surprised someone of your intellect didn't bother to mention SD, as it is of utmost importance to interpret the rarity of the number issued on an IQ test. Even with a low SD of 15, 160 isn't even one in a million...again, bull#.



And YES...as I have admitted on multiple occasions...I can Understand Quantum Mechanic Concepts as they are connective to Infinite Alternate Divergent Universal Realities which are the basis for Quantum Particle Change of Existence within our Multiversal Group of Divergent Universal realities with the same Physical and Natural laws....dependent upon PROBABILITY, CHOICE and thus cause and effect....but I can not find my Sunglasses or Keys! LOL!
Split Infinity


Yea, bull#.

I'm not going to bother replying to you again. Not worth my time, kid.
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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 07:22 AM
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I trust you're not only including outright aggression, but passive aggression in that as well. Some fools need to be taught through aggressive means, because they are causing so much damage with their passive aggression.


Pfft... I don't know what to say too many arrogant sobs think they have some right over another human being to beat them into submission. Honestly, there are more fools in this world than not, I am one of them...all I can say is I will defend my life, that no one has a right to take my foolish existence from me. I don't see I have any more right to life than another. Live and let live philosophy here. The people who think they ought to be beating and killing people have at it, I hope they all kill each other, I see them causing all the misery we see (I think they are just the arrogant and still bigger fools nonetheless) ..some of us are tired of all the violence. *sigh



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 08:09 AM
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Yeah, I don't know what to say, I just don't understand and the more you explain it to me the more I find myself disgusted. So I think I should just say no more.



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 09:09 AM
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I trust you're not only including outright aggression, but passive aggression in that as well. Some fools need to be taught through aggressive means, because they are causing so much damage with their passive aggression.


Would you mind giving me a real life example, so I understand better what you mean?



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 09:24 AM
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Welcome aboard! I think you are going to like it here. I know I do! Lots of awesome people and great conversations...

Thanks DirtyLiberalHippie



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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Well first it needs to be stated that aggression can mean many things besides physical violence. I'm not sure physical violence is ever the answer to passive aggression.

Passive aggression can be very subtle, but basically comes about when someone feels as if you're not meeting up to their expectations, or just their selfish needs, and starts to manipulate situations to cause suffering to you without it being easily deciphered.

I've known coworkers who were like this. One girl would claim to forget constantly, and purposely make things more complicated than they really were. By doing this, she could obfuscate the truth, shut down other people's critical thinking, and control the outcome of situations to her benefit. So I confronted her, locked her in a room, and bitched her out for a few minutes letting her know I knew all the games she was playing. She was nice for the few weeks she remained, then quit.



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 04:54 PM
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Passive aggression can be very subtle, but basically comes about when someone feels as if you're not meeting up to their expectations, or just their selfish needs, and starts to manipulate situations to cause suffering to you without it being easily deciphered. I've known coworkers who were like this. One girl would claim to forget constantly, and purposely make things more complicated than they really were. By doing this, she could obfuscate the truth, shut down other people's critical thinking, and control the outcome of situations to her benefit. So I confronted her, locked her in a room, and bitched her out for a few minutes letting her know I knew all the games she was playing. She was nice for the few weeks she remained, then quit.

yeah, I understand what your saying. I am glad you didn't beat her up in that room. My guy told me to send you to another website and there I could give you simple good advise haha...but, kidding aside (the police still have custody of my "weapon"...ha) it is wise to choose your battles carefully. I stand on defense as the only legit reason to employ force/violence.
It was really hard for me to write this so carefully ...hmmm

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posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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Yea, no. I don't beat on women.

Society (and perhaps your guy) might say what I did was wrong, but society is also breeding/enabling this nonsense.



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 09:55 PM
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You keep saying B.S. as far as Einstein Taking an IQ Test...and that is because you are basing that assumption on the fact that Modern IQ Tests did not exist during his youth. But what you fail to admit or perhaps you just do not know is that Einstein actually DEVELOPED AN IQ TEST as well as the fact that several fellow Friends and Princeton Professors such as Luther P. Eisenhart, Henry Norris Russell, Niel Bohr...were placed under great pressure to convince Einstein to take an IQ test that other Professors at Princeton were developing. Although what is commonly known is that Einstein never took an IQ test...he in fact did. It was not public knowledge.

Einstein's will instructed that his brain be removed for further study. Most of it is still kept at a secret location. by the same Hopewell doctor, Thomas Harvey, who performed Einstein's autopsy. Cross-sections of the brain the century's most powerful engine of scientific thought are sometimes mailed to specialists seeking signs of abnormality. Results have been inconclusive. This is a FACT that you can easily look up if you wish.

The Able 11 Social and Able 12 Psych are abbreviations of the true name of these test as I wanted to see if you has any training as only someone who went through this specific training would know the whole name. Yet you make statements about them and I KNOW you do not know what they are! Also...I WISH I WERE YOUNG!
Split Infinity



posted on Sep, 21 2012 @ 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by OldSchoolMom
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Yeah, I don't know what to say, I just don't understand and the more you explain it to me the more I find myself disgusted. So I think I should just say no more.


I am sorry this distressed you...but you pressed me for the Reality...so I gave it to you. The World is a VERY, VERY DANGEROUS PLACE! NEVER forget that. Split Infinity



posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 04:41 AM
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Yeah, I was saying that in a joking manner, I didn't think you would hit her. I write like I speak, I forget sometimes that things can read very different than they sound when saying it



oh and It's football season, I really don't think my guy has an opinion on anything right now unless it is related to football ha. He has said in the past that he is an eye for an eye guy and I believe him.

The police have custody of my hairbrush, I was accused of using it as a weapon....it's a joke here at the house. They won't give it back even though the case was dismissed because it was trumped up charges to try and fleece me (my opinion of course). I went up to the court and told them I wanted my hairbrush back, because my guy doesn't flinch when I raise my hand (they don't have a sense of humor either *shrugs).

I joke because you said you locked her in a room, you are lucky you weren't charged with kidnapping..... it appears as if common sense has been replaced with something else and everything stands on fear and control instead.... imo of course

I was going to share with you my own experience because maybe it will make you feel better about how well you handled your disrespectful co-worker.....but I would rather just say you were much more gentle and that's nice.



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