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Israel angered over IAEA vote on nuclear arsenal
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Originally posted by knowneedtoknow
John F Kennedy did try to do the inspection of the Dimona Nuclear facility, and we all know what happen.
Since then not one American President did even attempt to do so.
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The second item below is a letter from JFK to Israeli Prime Minister Eshkol which
makes it crystal clear JFK did NOT want the Jewish state to develop nuclear weapons and
that he was demanding regular US inspections of the Dimona Nuclear facility...which, as we
now know, was/is used to develop Israel's enormous inventory of atomic and thermonuclear
weapons. The US Air Force white paper regarding past and ongoing Israeli thermonuclear
blackmail of the US is a stunning look at how Zionism has exerted such staggering domination
over the US for decades. -
JFK could have been killed for a variety of reasons. Some say he wanted ufo disclosure, some say he was chasing down the sicilian mafia, some say he wanted to bring down the federal reserve, some say he hated secret socities such as masonry and now you say israel.
He was a stand-up honorable person that paid the ultimate price. I am pretty sure the cia had a hand in it much like MLK who was pushing for black rights. Rich people who are satan worshipers do not like to relinquish control of their evil deeds.
reply to Earth Citizen 07
To state you know more than me, would be very assuming on your part and stupid! I ask you for proof and you say look around me????
First off, YES I am a Jew but I do not practise any religion (although I find Buddhist beliefs based more on common sense/way of life). Secondly, I have travelled the world several times over and have seen the truth for myself, its the best education you can get. I have even lived and worked in several Arabic countries such as: UAE, Bahrain, Jordan and Egypt. I live between Hong Kong and Thailand, although I am originally from London, England. I have a Masters degree from a world renowned university. I am friends with Jewish, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist and Muslim people, we are all human did you know that?
I have visited and done charity work in the West Bank and spent three months living with Palestinian people, i also spent 6 months in Israel and can tell you that the majority of people on both sides want peace and to be left alone. Unfortunately, there are too many radicals on both sides (many christian fanatics and Palestinians sympathysers who both stir up trouble).
For you to state that Jews give the orders again is nonsence, there are Powers That Be and yes the Rothschilds family are involved (Rothschilds do not equate to ALL Jews - far from it - its one family) but did you know that the Rothschilds are the appointed bankers of the Vatican and Royal families who actually give the orders?
Of course you did not know that because it does not suit your 'Jew Hating' agenda! How could Christians be so evil, right? There are many evil people on this planet,but a fraction of them are Jews. I grant you that many Jews work in banking, jewellery, law, accountancy, business ownership, etc., but not all jews do and they do not have any monopolys on these trades. The reason many Jewish people are in good jobs is because they are pushed to acheive by parents who fear failure, who fear ignoranceand who fear history repeating itself.
I have spent much time in Cambodia, even before the UN (UNTAC) went there and saw what the Khmer Rouge did to their own country, it was one scary place. I have seen revisionists scale down the estimated murder from 3 million to 2 million and now 1.5 million (I believe more than 3 million were by eradicated by Pol Pot/Solath Sar and his French educated Khmer Rouge regime). Who could have believed that the world would let massacres like that happen again after WWII but we did, we watched and again in Rwanda and Bosnia.
I don't care if you believe 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazi's or not! 'The Final Solution' was documented in detail by the Nazis, the camps had thorough documentation and I have been to The Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum where they contain records of every Jew, Romany, Gay, handicapped, etc., victim of the Holocaust!
Many people on ATS (Jew Haters) claim that Jews are eternal victims always playing the victim card, well with people like you and others on ATS, can you really blame them? have you ever wondered what it feels like for a Jew, Black, Asian or Gay to be surrounded by hatred like yours???
Do not insult me by pretending to know more or school me in things you nothing about! Go back to Stormfront and your other Nazi propaganda and stop denying ignorance here on ATS!
To state you know more than me, would be very assuming on your part and stupid! I ask you for proof and you say look around me????
First off, YES I am a Jew but I do not practise any religion (although I find Buddhist beliefs based more on common sense/way of life). Secondly, I have travelled the world several times over and have seen the truth for myself, its the best education you can get. I have even lived and worked in several Arabic countries such as: UAE, Bahrain, Jordan and Egypt. I live between Hong Kong and Thailand, although I am originally from London, England. I have a Masters degree from a world renowned university. I am friends with Jewish, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist and Muslim people, we are all human did you know that?
I have visited and done charity work in the West Bank and spent three months living with Palestinian people, i also spent 6 months in Israel and can tell you that the majority of people on both sides want peace and to be left alone. Unfortunately, there are too many radicals on both sides (many christian fanatics and Palestinians sympathysers who both stir up trouble).
For you to state that Jews give the orders again is nonsence, there are Powers That Be and yes the Rothschilds family are involved (Rothschilds do not equate to ALL Jews - far from it - its one family) but did you know that the Rothschilds are the appointed bankers of the Vatican and Royal families who actually give the orders?
Of course you did not know that because it does not suit your 'Jew Hating' agenda! How could Christians be so evil, right? There are many evil people on this planet,but a fraction of them are Jews. I grant you that many Jews work in banking, jewellery, law, accountancy, business ownership, etc., but not all jews do and they do not have any monopolys on these trades. The reason many Jewish people are in good jobs is because they are pushed to acheive by parents who fear failure, who fear ignoranceand who fear history repeating itself.
I have spent much time in Cambodia, even before the UN (UNTAC) went there and saw what the Khmer Rouge did to their own country, it was one scary place. I have seen revisionists scale down the estimated murder from 3 million to 2 million and now 1.5 million (I believe more than 3 million were by eradicated by Pol Pot/Solath Sar and his French educated Khmer Rouge regime). Who could have believed that the world would let massacres like that happen again after WWII but we did, we watched and again in Rwanda and Bosnia.
I don't care if you believe 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazi's or not! 'The Final Solution' was documented in detail by the Nazis, the camps had thorough documentation and I have been to The Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum where they contain records of every Jew, Romany, Gay, handicapped, etc., victim of the Holocaust!
Many people on ATS (Jew Haters) claim that Jews are eternal victims always playing the victim card, well with people like you and others on ATS, can you really blame them? have you ever wondered what it feels like for a Jew, Black, Asian or Gay to be surrounded by hatred like yours???
Do not insult me by pretending to know more or school me in things you nothing about! Go back to Stormfront and your other Nazi propaganda and stop denying ignorance here on ATS!
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reply to post by Corruption Exposed
Well, being that almost every religious group considers themselves "Chosen" hypocrisy seems inevitable and ingrained in the mix.
More and more, Israel seems destined to fall down the Rabbit Hole that the Likud party (their version of NeoCons) is dragging them.
Their game of destabilization coupled with the occasional false flag, is really great for business and dominating other countries while continuously playing the victim -- but it's not sustainable. They've been playing with fire for decades now, and someone is going to get burnt.
The nuclear arsenal Israel commands needs to be recognized by all the adults in the room. And the UAE and Saudi Arabia are probably well on the way to acquiring them.
If the IAEA plays favorites and becomes a toothless bureaucracy -- which would fit with Israel's ambitions. It's not going to be much use when someone BAD has a nuke, and Israel and the USA try to pretend they've got some kind of moral authority and a history of peace. That would be a good time to have some kind of third party to mitigate problems.
We and Israel ignore or support the UN and IAEA based on whatever fits our policies. The only difference between us and rogue nations is in our own minds.
Well, being that almost every religious group considers themselves "Chosen" hypocrisy seems inevitable and ingrained in the mix.
More and more, Israel seems destined to fall down the Rabbit Hole that the Likud party (their version of NeoCons) is dragging them.
Their game of destabilization coupled with the occasional false flag, is really great for business and dominating other countries while continuously playing the victim -- but it's not sustainable. They've been playing with fire for decades now, and someone is going to get burnt.
The nuclear arsenal Israel commands needs to be recognized by all the adults in the room. And the UAE and Saudi Arabia are probably well on the way to acquiring them.
If the IAEA plays favorites and becomes a toothless bureaucracy -- which would fit with Israel's ambitions. It's not going to be much use when someone BAD has a nuke, and Israel and the USA try to pretend they've got some kind of moral authority and a history of peace. That would be a good time to have some kind of third party to mitigate problems.
We and Israel ignore or support the UN and IAEA based on whatever fits our policies. The only difference between us and rogue nations is in our own minds.
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
Jesus was a carpenter? You really believe in fairy tales, don't you? Yeshua ben Yosef was a teacher with followers (pupils)! Do you know what a Jewish teacher is called? A Rabbi! Do you know what Jesus taught? The Law (The Torah). His followers were mainly Jews, not Romans and there certainly wasn't any Christians in those days thats for sure!
Because he was a popular Rabbi and had many followers he made enemies with the ruling class known as the Sanhendrin, who were worried about losing control (sound much like the ruling classes today???) and it was they who conspired with the Romans to have Jesus killed. However, it was the Romans that ultimately crucified Jesus and a Roman soldier who stuck a spear in Jesus!
Again, just to educate you a little further, whilst not all Jews are bankers/jewellers today (the majority are normal hard working people like most others) not all jews in 33AD were Sanhedrin - they were few (ever heard of the one percent?).
If you want a good education on the nonsense of religion, buy a DVD called 'Monty Pythons Life of Brian' the best film on religion ever made!
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Judea was a roman province and the governor of the land washed his hands clean. That means all the responsibility fell to the high jewish priests who WANTED him DEAD because he was stealing the show from them. He performed miracles but was treated as dirt. His occupation was a carpenter and that made him a target for hate and ridicule, much like today where if you are not a doctor or lawyer people look down upon you.
Jews are still awaiting for the "real messiah" while christians are awaiting for the second coming of christ.
Jesus was a carpenter? You really believe in fairy tales, don't you? Yeshua ben Yosef was a teacher with followers (pupils)! Do you know what a Jewish teacher is called? A Rabbi! Do you know what Jesus taught? The Law (The Torah). His followers were mainly Jews, not Romans and there certainly wasn't any Christians in those days thats for sure!
Because he was a popular Rabbi and had many followers he made enemies with the ruling class known as the Sanhendrin, who were worried about losing control (sound much like the ruling classes today???) and it was they who conspired with the Romans to have Jesus killed. However, it was the Romans that ultimately crucified Jesus and a Roman soldier who stuck a spear in Jesus!
Again, just to educate you a little further, whilst not all Jews are bankers/jewellers today (the majority are normal hard working people like most others) not all jews in 33AD were Sanhedrin - they were few (ever heard of the one percent?).
If you want a good education on the nonsense of religion, buy a DVD called 'Monty Pythons Life of Brian' the best film on religion ever made!
reply to post by Hongkongphooey
Wow -- you probably NEED to be starting a few threads -- I'm sure there are a lot of Pearls of wisdom we could learn from someone with such rich background.
>> I just want to point out, that while YOU see a difference between Rothchilds and the "rest" -- the problem is that when people are frustrated, ignorant and angry -- they don't make these distinctions. Israel is on a "crash course" with history repeating itself. Sure, the "bankers" all happen to be entirely Jewish -- and they will probably be scurrying off to hide in the woodwork as soon as the SHTF.
When the Sikh temple got shot up in New York -- it was from a man who was angry at Muslims and Arabs. We could laugh at the ignorance if it didn't result in death and injury.
I grew up with a lot of Jewish friends -- and I look at the Likud party in Israel as if it were the "Bush/Cheney" family.
Unfortunately -- things are not going to be solved in the USA or Israel. The people who could do something, got their position of power because they don't act against the interests of the powerful. We will have more pollution, more extremes of rich and poor, and an increasingly angry population.
When Hitler rose to power in Germany -- he did so by catering to the frustration and the feeling of powerlessness. The groups he targeted were CAUSING PROBLEMS in Germany -- but it wasn't universal and not ALL Gypsies stole, not ALL Jews were illegally squatting on land or rich bankers manipulating the currency, and not ALL Communists were fomenting discord.
>> I can guarantee you, that most Nazis were not bad people and they had good intentions. The problem is, that whomever started the problems to profit from them, is usually really gifted at propaganda. So if they can't stop the populace from rising up -- they'll be sure to give them a good target.
Every week now, I read a story about an Angry White Christian Male -- usually former military, who got violent. We just had a group of 4 former military caught in a murder charge of a military buddy and his girl friend. The investigation revealed that they had been buying thousands of dollars in guns and bomb making materials, and had a clear plan to assassinate the POTUS and create as much anarchy as possible.
>> The CONDITIONS are what we have to worry about. These endless wars are creating disillusioned and broken people with TRAINING. Some come back to little support or job prospects. Some come back angry. Couple that with a military training that was designed to desensitize them to killing, and you've got more potential Timothy McVeighs.
As much as the Government is in league with the robber barons -- it's also the only tool to deal with them. If the AWCM become too much of a problem -- they will end up justifying a greater Police State. People will cry out for security and ASK for drones to spy on them.
The men of action who are sure they are right, will be pointed at some convenient target. It won't be the people who profited from the mess -- of course.
I just hope that problems could be solved. You know, like some evil rich guy, who thinks there are too many people on the planet, considers that birth control and education could do a better job reducing populations than war or GM foods. Just for once.
Wow -- you probably NEED to be starting a few threads -- I'm sure there are a lot of Pearls of wisdom we could learn from someone with such rich background.
>> I just want to point out, that while YOU see a difference between Rothchilds and the "rest" -- the problem is that when people are frustrated, ignorant and angry -- they don't make these distinctions. Israel is on a "crash course" with history repeating itself. Sure, the "bankers" all happen to be entirely Jewish -- and they will probably be scurrying off to hide in the woodwork as soon as the SHTF.
When the Sikh temple got shot up in New York -- it was from a man who was angry at Muslims and Arabs. We could laugh at the ignorance if it didn't result in death and injury.
I grew up with a lot of Jewish friends -- and I look at the Likud party in Israel as if it were the "Bush/Cheney" family.
Unfortunately -- things are not going to be solved in the USA or Israel. The people who could do something, got their position of power because they don't act against the interests of the powerful. We will have more pollution, more extremes of rich and poor, and an increasingly angry population.
When Hitler rose to power in Germany -- he did so by catering to the frustration and the feeling of powerlessness. The groups he targeted were CAUSING PROBLEMS in Germany -- but it wasn't universal and not ALL Gypsies stole, not ALL Jews were illegally squatting on land or rich bankers manipulating the currency, and not ALL Communists were fomenting discord.
>> I can guarantee you, that most Nazis were not bad people and they had good intentions. The problem is, that whomever started the problems to profit from them, is usually really gifted at propaganda. So if they can't stop the populace from rising up -- they'll be sure to give them a good target.
Every week now, I read a story about an Angry White Christian Male -- usually former military, who got violent. We just had a group of 4 former military caught in a murder charge of a military buddy and his girl friend. The investigation revealed that they had been buying thousands of dollars in guns and bomb making materials, and had a clear plan to assassinate the POTUS and create as much anarchy as possible.
>> The CONDITIONS are what we have to worry about. These endless wars are creating disillusioned and broken people with TRAINING. Some come back to little support or job prospects. Some come back angry. Couple that with a military training that was designed to desensitize them to killing, and you've got more potential Timothy McVeighs.
As much as the Government is in league with the robber barons -- it's also the only tool to deal with them. If the AWCM become too much of a problem -- they will end up justifying a greater Police State. People will cry out for security and ASK for drones to spy on them.
The men of action who are sure they are right, will be pointed at some convenient target. It won't be the people who profited from the mess -- of course.
I just hope that problems could be solved. You know, like some evil rich guy, who thinks there are too many people on the planet, considers that birth control and education could do a better job reducing populations than war or GM foods. Just for once.
Originally posted by phatpackage
1) Iran is a terrorist nation who are striving to build a nuclear weapon to destroy Israel & their allies.
2) Israel is allowed to have Nukes and Iran are not, simple. Iran cannot be trusted.
Iran cannot be trusted, yet Iran is not currently the nation occupying a neighbor, attacking them, imprisoning them, stealing from them. Israel has done more to its neighbors in the last ten years than ANY other nation they claim is a threat.
If Israel were truly so concerned with stability, they would get their asses out of Palestine and stop stealing from their neighbors. Their theft of other peoples land is the single most destabilizing act in the entire region, and it is why no country on Earth trusts Israel one iota. Governments might, but the citizens of all our nations know exactly what Israel is capable of and we know that the Israeli government cannot be trusted.
In contrast to Iran, Israel refuses to allow anyone to inspect their weapons of mass destruction. The USA has gone to war on the "belief" of WMD before, and yet when it's an ally making the same criminal moves like Israel it's miraculously overlooked.
Israel is a violent hypocrite nation.
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reply to post by Hongkongphooey
I don't have a jew hating agenda. It comes natural for me as well as for many other folks. I also hate masonry, lucifer, and all rich people who step on others to get ahead. I am an honest man that appreciates honesty in return.
Simple as that!
I am not a communist and not a nazi. And just because the people who RAN the parties at given points in history does NOT make the platform itself evil. Many countries have had socialism or communism but we ONLY REMEMBER the bad cases, because IT SUITS capitalism.
I don't have a jew hating agenda. It comes natural for me as well as for many other folks. I also hate masonry, lucifer, and all rich people who step on others to get ahead. I am an honest man that appreciates honesty in return.
Simple as that!
I am not a communist and not a nazi. And just because the people who RAN the parties at given points in history does NOT make the platform itself evil. Many countries have had socialism or communism but we ONLY REMEMBER the bad cases, because IT SUITS capitalism.
Originally posted by intrepid
I have a question. Why does Israel have a delegate at the IAEA when they are not a member and are not bound to it?
That's an excellent question. Other than complete corruption in world politics, i don't really have an answer.
Just because Israel is not a signatory to the NPT and not bound by its regulations, they're still obligated to allow UN weapons inspectors to inspect their nuclear WMD's.
The Authority of the UN Security Council supersedes that of the IAEA or any other international group...so technically, just because Israel didn't ratify the NPT - the UN Security Council can still force them to open up their stockpiles of nuclear WMD's to inspection - or suffer sanctions under UN resolutions, just as we have seen elsewhere when states don't allow inspections.
The fact Israel is never threatened with UN sanctions for refusing access to its nuclear arsenal - is incomprehensible to me.
The only reason i can see for the US, UK and the rest if the EU not insisting that UN weapons inspectors are given access to Israeli nuke sites, is they are collectively up to their necks in it by selling and supplying Israel with Nuclear weapons AFTER ratifying the NPT in 1968, and continue to do so.
Which if that is so, our governments deliberately broke international Nuclear Proliferation Treaty laws they had signed up to.
Which is unbelievably hypocritical at a time when the West was demanding the post-USSR states start a heavy nuclear decommissioning programme in return for Western aid, when the West was pushing for Iraq invasions on the back of a WMD ticket, when the West demands other countries should suffer UN sanctions and resolutions for illegal invasions and occupations, such as ws the case with Iraq war #1, all the while supplying and endorsing Israel, which has invaded and is occupying Gaza, has hundreds of CNB WMD's and refuses inspections from the UN!
When Iran is at least allowing UN inspections of its nuclear programme, abiding by the UN security Council rules and regs, even on their more sensitive military bases, Israel has stockpiled hundreds of Nuclear, Chemical and Biological warheads, perhaps 1000's, they won't even admit to, let alone agree to allow UN inspections of.
Their excuse? Arab states sometimes don't abide fully with UN rules...so they somehow think that gives them the right to lie about their Nuclear WMD stockpiles, while trying to antagonise the rest of the world into a war with Iran, which have no nuclear weapons AND allows UN security Council inspections..!
It's a screwed up world.
Originally posted by Hongkongphooey
For you to state that Jews give the orders again is nonsence, there are Powers That Be and yes the Rothschilds family are involved (Rothschilds do not equate to ALL Jews - far from it - its one family) but did you know that the Rothschilds are the appointed bankers of the Vatican and Royal families who actually give the orders?
And who gives orders to them? Are they in it for themselves or what?
It would be funny if you started talking about reptillians but it is an absolute bitch to prove!
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst
I couldn't agree more, very well put!
Unfortunately, religions use birth control as something abhorrent, scared it may cull their future flocks, keeping their minds numbed and dumbed down is their mantra!
Female Catholics called murderers for aborting an unwanted fetus, doctors gunned down for giving women freedom to decide, religions are politicised and the hate spreads! And in the midst of all this are flag wavers claiming freedom!
We live in one big Jail (could be worse lol) and its the 1% who control us all: Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindu's, Buddhists etal, and you can't stop the ignorant from blaming the Jews
The Sikh temple tragerdy was disgusting, ignorance at its worst! Just because someone wears a turban, it does not make them a muslim terrorist, otherwise we would be targetting most women when they get out of a shower! A real tragerdy because the Sikh people are one of the most peaceful people on the planet,I have had the pleasure of knowing quite a few in my life (from school right through to today) and I find them of the most friendly, kind and intelligent people!
Hatred is ignorance of a culture whether you hate Muslim, Jews or whatever! People who hate should be re-educated to understand that we are all human! The funny part about the 'white supermacists' who think they are doing Jesus's work is that they have gotten his message all wrong and if he ever did return, i don't think he would be too happy with them or the Catholic church for that matter
Cheers
I couldn't agree more, very well put!
Unfortunately, religions use birth control as something abhorrent, scared it may cull their future flocks, keeping their minds numbed and dumbed down is their mantra!
Female Catholics called murderers for aborting an unwanted fetus, doctors gunned down for giving women freedom to decide, religions are politicised and the hate spreads! And in the midst of all this are flag wavers claiming freedom!
We live in one big Jail (could be worse lol) and its the 1% who control us all: Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindu's, Buddhists etal, and you can't stop the ignorant from blaming the Jews
The Sikh temple tragerdy was disgusting, ignorance at its worst! Just because someone wears a turban, it does not make them a muslim terrorist, otherwise we would be targetting most women when they get out of a shower! A real tragerdy because the Sikh people are one of the most peaceful people on the planet,I have had the pleasure of knowing quite a few in my life (from school right through to today) and I find them of the most friendly, kind and intelligent people!
Hatred is ignorance of a culture whether you hate Muslim, Jews or whatever! People who hate should be re-educated to understand that we are all human! The funny part about the 'white supermacists' who think they are doing Jesus's work is that they have gotten his message all wrong and if he ever did return, i don't think he would be too happy with them or the Catholic church for that matter
Cheers
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by Hongkongphooey
For you to state that Jews give the orders again is nonsence, there are Powers That Be and yes the Rothschilds family are involved (Rothschilds do not equate to ALL Jews - far from it - its one family) but did you know that the Rothschilds are the appointed bankers of the Vatican and Royal families who actually give the orders?
And who gives orders to them? Are they in it for themselves or what?
It would be funny if you started talking about reptillians but it is an absolute bitch to prove!
As i stated they take orders from the Royals and Vatican and I am sure the Rothschilds are in it for themselves as are the non-Jewish Rockerfellas, but if you want to start with the Reptillians thats fine with me as long as you do not claim that the Jews are the Reptillians. However, i would not be too surprised if there was one claiming to be the God of the three main religions (pretending to be the kindly old man in the sky).
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
Israel angered over IAEA vote on nuclear arsenal
www.presstv.ir
(visit the link for the full news article)
Israel has become infuriated by a fresh initiative of Arab member states of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) which seeks to launch a global campaign to slam Israel’s possession of nuclear stockpile.
The motion tabled by 17 Arab IAEA members has been submitted to a preparatory commission to be put to vote at the Agency’s September meeting which is to be attended by 154 countries, the Associated Press reported on Tuesday.
The initiative is widely expected to be ratified, as it enjoys the support of Muslim countries as well as other states critical of Israel’s
Related AboveTopSecret.com Discussion Threads:
Muslim nations demand Israel open its nuke program to IAEA viewing
European Poll: Israel Biggest Threat To World Peace
Not sure if they will follow through on this, but should be a nice show to watch for in September anyway...
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by Hongkongphooey
I don't have a jew hating agenda. It comes natural for me as well as for many other folks. I also hate masonry, lucifer, and all rich people who step on others to get ahead. I am an honest man that appreciates honesty in return.
Simple as that!
I am not a communist and not a nazi. And just because the people who RAN the parties at given points in history does NOT make the platform itself evil. Many countries have had socialism or communism but we ONLY REMEMBER the bad cases, because IT SUITS capitalism.
Hating Jews comes natural to you? What did Jews do to you, please enlighten me? I can tell you that as a jew I am quite liked because I help people as much as I can and am known as happy, friendly and generous to my friends but perhaps I am the 'Anti-Stereotype'
In the past I was attacked by seven Thai guys and beaten black and blue for no reason (I don't drink orcause trouble) but i do not hate Thai people for one incident. I have been cheated by Chinese and Indian people in business, do i hate them - no way, actually although it hurt at the time (very much ex. $100,000 is alot to be cheated out of in a contract when your starting a new business) but it was a lesson I learned and never allowed again.
I have learned never to ask for money back that I have lent to someone, as when you do you very quickly become the bad guy (your great when they want to borrow, just evil when its time to pay back). I have never charged interest and now only help people who are truly in need and that I like (sometimes without them asking). I regularly financially assist a Malaysian Muslim woman friend who is struggling trying to raise two lovely kids (not mine lol) who always promises to pay me back, but I never expect her too, but will be proud if one day she gets in a position to do so.
So honestly, what have Jewish people done to you, thats makes you hate all Jews???
BTW, I came from a poor single parent family who lived in a council flat but i worked very hard and took many chances to get where I am today! I have tried to do things honestly and have always given back, sometimes working 18 hours a day! At 13 years old I did two jobs to help pay bills and give myself pocket money. Not all wealthy people are evil, just most of them
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Originally posted by intrepid
I have a question. Why does Israel have a delegate at the IAEA when they are not a member and are not bound to it?
Because when you are the Bible-proclaimed "God's chosen people," you have moral authority over the whole planet. And of course this grants you rights to an unaccountable, secret nuclear weapons stockpile, too.
how many wars have been started by arab countries against israel?
maybe if the arabs would leave them alone, and quit saying that they should be wiped out all the time, things would quiet down
if i had neighbors like that, i would have the biggest, most powerful weapon i could get my hands on.
and i have never heard any israeli say they have " moral authority over the whole planet"
I agree with all of you that have said Israeli hypocrisy is not a Jew issue, it clearly isn't. It's an Israeli Government issue, plain and simple.
They and those that enable them by action or inaction to get away with the atrocities they commit and the horrors they plan for Iran and the rest of
the world, are to blame...they, not 'Jews' are to blame.
Not all people are the same, so not all Jews are the same.
On the streets of the Polish Ghettos in the late 30's and early 40's, wealthy Jews dressed in furs and finery were happily stepping over the skin covered bones of starving poor Jews, dressed in filthy rags in the street, ignoring the their pathetic cries for help, heard while on their way to buy bread and meat from shopkeepers.
They didn't care about them or their pain and suffering...and they were all Jews. So much for religious or racial solidarity. As long as the rich Jews got what they wanted, thats all they cared about..so not much has changed there then.
Not all Jews are the same. A person isn't all people.
Not all people are the same, so not all Jews are the same.
On the streets of the Polish Ghettos in the late 30's and early 40's, wealthy Jews dressed in furs and finery were happily stepping over the skin covered bones of starving poor Jews, dressed in filthy rags in the street, ignoring the their pathetic cries for help, heard while on their way to buy bread and meat from shopkeepers.
They didn't care about them or their pain and suffering...and they were all Jews. So much for religious or racial solidarity. As long as the rich Jews got what they wanted, thats all they cared about..so not much has changed there then.
Not all Jews are the same. A person isn't all people.
Originally posted by detachedindividual
Originally posted by phatpackage
1) Iran is a terrorist nation who are striving to build a nuclear weapon to destroy Israel & their allies.
2) Israel is allowed to have Nukes and Iran are not, simple. Iran cannot be trusted.
Iran cannot be trusted, yet Iran is not currently the nation occupying a neighbor, attacking them, imprisoning them, stealing from them. Israel has done more to its neighbors in the last ten years than ANY other nation they claim is a threat.
If Israel were truly so concerned with stability, they would get their asses out of Palestine and stop stealing from their neighbors. Their theft of other peoples land is the single most destabilizing act in the entire region, and it is why no country on Earth trusts Israel one iota. Governments might, but the citizens of all our nations know exactly what Israel is capable of and we know that the Israeli government cannot be trusted.
In contrast to Iran, Israel refuses to allow anyone to inspect their weapons of mass destruction. The USA has gone to war on the "belief" of WMD before, and yet when it's an ally making the same criminal moves like Israel it's miraculously overlooked.
Israel is a violent hypocrite nation.edit on 30-8-2012 by detachedindividual because: (no reason given)
And yet Israel has given more land that they won fairly in war back to Egypt and the Palestinians than any other nation in modern history (bar the break up of the Soviet Union).
If the Israeli's were such land grabbers why did they give the Sinai back to Egypt with completely built up holiday resorts like Sharm el-Sheik? Why did they give the West Bank & Gaza Strip to the Palestinians, they did not have too, did they? They did it for peace andwhat did they get in return??? Not peace!
To be fair The West Bank is thriving and there is not much problem with Israel however, Gaza is a whole different problem of Hamas's making!
As for trusting Israel with Nukes, they have had much provocation and haven't used one yet and I doubt that they will unless they are attacked first with chemical or nuclear weapons, which is why there is so much effort to stop Iran obtaining nuclear weapons, because they have threatened and intend to wipe Israel off the map! Please do not give me the mis-translation nonsense. the Iranian leadershipand most Arab nations are quite clear as to what they want - the annilation of Israel! However,in doing so they will be wiping out the very same people they supposedly support - the Palestinians! ironic, wouldn't you say?
Originally posted by Hongkongphooey
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by Hongkongphooey
For you to state that Jews give the orders again is nonsence, there are Powers That Be and yes the Rothschilds family are involved (Rothschilds do not equate to ALL Jews - far from it - its one family) but did you know that the Rothschilds are the appointed bankers of the Vatican and Royal families who actually give the orders?
And who gives orders to them? Are they in it for themselves or what?
It would be funny if you started talking about reptillians but it is an absolute bitch to prove!
As i stated they take orders from the Royals and Vatican and I am sure the Rothschilds are in it for themselves as are the non-Jewish Rockerfellas, but if you want to start with the Reptillians thats fine with me as long as you do not claim that the Jews are the Reptillians. However, i would not be too surprised if there was one claiming to be the God of the three main religions (pretending to be the kindly old man in the sky).
As a spiritual person I will agree mainstream religion is far from the truth. I am left winger who believes in mild socialism. How could I possibly be a religious nut? Hahaha. A lot of my frustration is based on nations wanting non-secularism.
Yes I believe in the orion group and the GFL but I stopped worrying about things I have no control over. People do not want to hear the truth because of their extensive brainwashing. Never-the-less zionism and masonry are bad things that are easy to prove.
Originally posted by Hongkongphooey
So honestly, what have Jewish people done to you, thats makes you hate all Jews???
I tend to use the word hate loosely. Probably dislike or "not care for" would better suited.
I simply do not like their superiority complex throughout history, neither do I like israel becoming a jewish nation that mistreats other people.
BTW, I came from a poor single parent family who lived in a council flat but i worked very hard and took many chances to get where I am today! I have tried to do things honestly and have always given back, sometimes working 18 hours a day! At 13 years old I did two jobs to help pay bills and give myself pocket money. Not all wealthy people are evil, just most of them
Good for you. People who work hard to get ahead deserve respect and sympathy!
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That is absolutely untrue. I have the maps to prove it too but I am not trying to derail this thread by focusing on the theft of land Israel is constantly in the act of doing.
I rather focus on their hypocrisy when it comes to what they expect from their regional allies, and what they are willing to give back. We all know Israel is a nation built on stolen land in which they continue to steal from, but we need to also remind ourselves that the people in power over there are about to spark WW3 on lies they created to suit their agenda.
Israel has nukes, Iran doesn't, yet the world governments are trying to justify a strike on Iran's nuclear program. It just doesn't sound logical to me.
And yet Israel has given more land that they won fairly in war back to Egypt and the Palestinians than any other nation in modern history (bar the break up of the Soviet Union).
That is absolutely untrue. I have the maps to prove it too but I am not trying to derail this thread by focusing on the theft of land Israel is constantly in the act of doing.
I rather focus on their hypocrisy when it comes to what they expect from their regional allies, and what they are willing to give back. We all know Israel is a nation built on stolen land in which they continue to steal from, but we need to also remind ourselves that the people in power over there are about to spark WW3 on lies they created to suit their agenda.
Israel has nukes, Iran doesn't, yet the world governments are trying to justify a strike on Iran's nuclear program. It just doesn't sound logical to me.
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Fanatic jews and fanatic muslims do not want peace and the military-industrial complex is more than satisfied.
The more war, the more weapons get made and sold. Also the bankers get to write new loans to cover the expenses.
Israel should have solved its problems decades ago since they always had the upper hand. They succumbed to UN pressures to give back. Bad idea. If they were serious about their national security they would have either a)absorbed palestine and declared a non-secular government or b)kick the fanatic muslims out of israel and made some kind of deal with its neigbhors for a palestinian state.
The kurds have had the same problem as the palestinians.......a people without a nation, yet they got their ass kicked by turkey, syria, iraq and now play nice. Israel didn't do what it had to do and they keep paying the price for inaction.
Fanatic jews and fanatic muslims do not want peace and the military-industrial complex is more than satisfied.
The more war, the more weapons get made and sold. Also the bankers get to write new loans to cover the expenses.
Israel should have solved its problems decades ago since they always had the upper hand. They succumbed to UN pressures to give back. Bad idea. If they were serious about their national security they would have either a)absorbed palestine and declared a non-secular government or b)kick the fanatic muslims out of israel and made some kind of deal with its neigbhors for a palestinian state.
The kurds have had the same problem as the palestinians.......a people without a nation, yet they got their ass kicked by turkey, syria, iraq and now play nice. Israel didn't do what it had to do and they keep paying the price for inaction.
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