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Well we don't need a video from some lady to have assurance. It's pretty clear what Christ said in John 6:37, no?

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I'm not sure fictional characters give anyone assurances about anything.

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If you're already a Christian.

For non-believers John 6:37 isn't assurance for eternal life..... it's this:

Originally posted by Samuelis
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I'm not sure fictional characters give anyone assurances about anything.

I completely agree. However, Christ's life and death is the most documented and written about person in human history with no less than 18,000 books catalogued in the library of Congress.

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Well that's not true, I myself was a non-believer once.

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Fair enough

I am always interested to hear from believers why they believe in Christianity. What reason led them to that. Not the belief in God, but the Bible being the Word of God. Do you have a thread where you shared this?

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Christ's life and death is the most documented and written about person in human history with no less than 18,000 books catalogued in the library of Congress.

The only thing that would come close to documenting Jesus are news stories written about him while he was alive. Even then, you know you can't believe everything you read. That's one of the main points about this site.

Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
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Fair enough

I am always interested to hear from believers why they believe in Christianity. What reason led them to that. Not the belief in God, but the Bible being the Word of God. Do you have a thread where you shared this?

Pastor/Priest/Father whatever they have told them to read a few verses from the good book and pray. They pray get goosebumps and they've felt the holy spirit. Violaaa

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This post is a Tool...For The LORD JESUS! I Trust The Holy Spirit To Work in People's Heart's...

Originally posted by ResearchEverything777
This Young Lady Speaks The TRUTH!

Not Just Words...Forgive and Help Other's...LOVE IN ACTION!!!

14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. 15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. 16 From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work. Ephesians 4

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Well we don't need a video from some lady to have assurance. It's pretty clear what Christ said in John 6:37, no?

[color=DarkSlateGray]..You tell me, is it "clear" to you? You don't exactly explain anything, just give a citation.
[color=DarkSlateGray]..Jesus is giving a talk and he is discussing things like Moses and Manna. He says Moses did not give you Manna, the Father did.
[color=DarkSlateGray]..So Jesus Is comparing himself to Moses and also to what his audience thinks of as miracles. He, himself is what the people should be seeking, the bread of life, not the bread we eat which keeps us alive for a while and then we die anyway, but the bread that keeps you alive eternally.
[color=DarkSlateGray]..Now how does that work exactly? He goes on to say that when you make the decision to believe in Jesus, that is by the work of the Father, and once that belief is established, based on that decision (helped along by means of a spiritual influence) then Jesus keeps you. This "keeping" is of a persistent nature, which death itself can not cause to be broken.
[color=DarkSlateGray]..But, that being said, it should not be taken to be saying something more than that, where the individual has this condition in place based on a decision that he made, that person can just as easily some day make another decision which reverses the previous one, then Jesus is no longer under obligation to keep that person.
[color=DarkSlateGray]..This is why I frequently repeat this concept of mine that real, accomplished salvation, in the past tense, is when you have passed through death and find yourself with Jesus and the saints in Heaven, which is a place only for those who persevere to the end.

Originally posted by LordD
Pastor/Priest/Father whatever they have told them to read a few verses from the good book and pray. They pray get goosebumps and they've felt the holy spirit. Violaaa

Actually, many of us have probably studied our belief system more thoroughly than yourself.

I never trust what someone tells me and I'm especially careful of anything I hear from the "pulpit" of any faith.

The Bible itself actually encourages us to be diligent in deciding if it's true:

Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. (Acts 17:11)

That's something I hold dear.

But to get down to brass tacks, I'd say that the uncanny prophecy plays an important part in my belief.

Israel becoming a nation again and the description of the end times are two standouts. The globalists have a plan, it's coming to fruition, and it was predicted first in the Holy Bible.

Then there's the verse the lady mentioned right off the bat. I've personally found it to be true:

For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. (Hebrews 4:12)

I was pretty immersed in the New Age community at one time and some things stood out that turned me towards a consideration of Christianity:

1.) That none of the new age folk ultimately had anything I wanted.

2.) That some small-town, country Christians that I met actually did impress me with their lifestyle of love and humbleness and I found something sincere and viable that compelled me to give it another look-see.

3.) The new age with it's syncretic Hinduism and paganism and what not and all the "cosmic consciousness" and "we are all god" religions are evidence of the first lie in the Garden

4.) Christ is perennially attacked by the above folk and other religions in a way that screams "where there's smoke there's fire."

The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the only God revealed to an entire nation.

After Christ's death his followers were demoralized, marginalized, and without political power and something happened that turned these whipped-pup underdogs into fearless missionaries that turned the world upside down.

That's by no means all of the reasons, but your narrow-minded "one size fits all" comment deserved a reply.

Originally posted by The GUT

Originally posted by LordD
Pastor/Priest/Father whatever they have told them to read a few verses from the good book and pray. They pray get goosebumps and they've felt the holy spirit. Violaaa

Actually, many of us have probably studied our belief system more thoroughly than yourself.

I never trust what someone tells me and I'm especially careful of anything I hear from the "pulpit" of any faith.

The Bible itself actually encourages us to be diligent in deciding if it's true:

Than myself...Don't know where that came from. Yea be diligent in searching for faith uhhh okay. "I never trust what someone tells me unless it came from the good book." The amount of hours i spent on the bible i rather not talk about. It seems like such a waste now. The bible tells you to find some faith before you die or suffer eternally. That's your choice.

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Amen!

Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
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Fair enough

I am always interested to hear from believers why they believe in Christianity. What reason led them to that. Not the belief in God, but the Bible being the Word of God. Do you have a thread where you shared this?

I got into the Bible by having a fascination with prophecy, then found out about the ELS codes and the heptadic structure under the text. Hundreds of detailed prophecies, to me, proves the origin of the text originated from an entity outside the dimensionality of time.

Originally posted by gentledissident

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Christ's life and death is the most documented and written about person in human history with no less than 18,000 books catalogued in the library of Congress.

The only thing that would come close to documenting Jesus are news stories written about him while he was alive. Even then, you know you can't believe everything you read. That's one of the main points about this site.

He wasn't famous to the historians of the Empire during His life, just another peasant who died on a cross.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
He wasn't famous to the historians of the Empire during His life, just another peasant who died on a cross.

That's what I'm saying. We're left with hearsay and propaganda. It's politics as usual.

Originally posted by Samuelis
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I'm not sure fictional characters give anyone assurances about anything.

LMAO....please don't tell me you are referring to Jesus of Nazareth as a fictional character?

Not only is that poor form, but also extremely lame. You have left yourself open to assumption, and I assume you have a grudge against Christianity, for whatever reason, in addition to the habit of repeating baseless accusations spoken by the ignorant.

Don't be lazy, educate yourself.
Rise above the empty arguments you've heard among your peers and come to your own conclusions.

Originally posted by gentledissident

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
He wasn't famous to the historians of the Empire during His life, just another peasant who died on a cross.

That's what I'm saying. We're left with hearsay and propaganda. It's politics as usual.

I am truly at a loss at why people even attempt to argue whether or not Jesus of Nazareth actually existed. Just because someone concedes that He was a real person, does not make that concession inclusive of faith in Whom He said He was, nor the Message He brought with Him.

To me, this is reminiscent of the monster-under-the-bed mentality of "If I don't believe in it, then it can't hurt me."

If Jesus of Nazareth truly is Who He said He is, then unfortunately, being subject to His message is not contingent upon believing whether or not He existed.