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Now I am not one for people watching my every move and I am by no means a fan of the Federal Government (ie. the alphabet agencies; CIA, FBI, DHS, etc.) but if you have nothing to hide from them about where that money is coming from then they have no reason to be following you.
Originally posted by crawdad1914
Homeland security is very interested in people who ATTEMPT to operate using cash in any amounts other than the price of a nice Dinner. You want them monitoring you night and day?
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by groingrinder
Those bail outs could have certainly been put to better use, such as pay off the debt's of home owners. Regrettably these bail outs were part of an agenda to steal from the poor and make the rich people more wealthy, and the real kick in the groin is that we pay interest on these bail outs, and it's our money that they borrowed!
Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education.
- Franklin D. Roosevelt
Originally posted by Acronychal
I do agree with you to an extent, and I think that no man should be able to dictate the economy in such ways that they do. The way the economic system has been run is reflected in it's own instability and continual demise. But I do ask this, what of a world with no banks?
Do you think countries can maintain a sustainable economy with no banks what-so-ever? I also agree that the morals and reasoning of some (perhaps most, but definetly not all) bankers is questionable. But if you, someone who claims times have gotten tough, had the opportunity to turn a blind eye and reach into the depths of a stable monatery life, would you?edit on 23-8-2012 by Acronychal because: (no reason given)
From wikipedia Bank of America
n 2004, the bank pledged $750 billion over a ten-year period for community development lending and investment. The company had delivered more than $230 billion against a ten-year commitment of $350 billion made in 1998 to provide affordable mortgage, build affordable housing, support small business and create jobs in disadvantaged neighborhoods.
Originally posted by Skywatcher2011
reply to post by Corruption Exposed
If you are gonna bitch about bankers, then stop putting money into your bank account(s). Nuff said.
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by Skywatcher2011
Do you not use banks at all?
I live in a crappy neighborhood and would not trust my life savings to be stuffed under my mattress or even a fireproof safe.
I understand your point, but I don't exactly understand your perception of my point.
What will you do when they turn it into a cashless society? I envy you if you are able to completely get off the grid, regrettably I am not that lucky.
Now I am not one for people watching my every move and I am by no means a fan of the Federal Government (ie. the alphabet agencies; CIA, FBI, DHS, etc.) but if you have nothing to hide from them about where that money is coming from then they have no reason to be following you.
Originally posted by ArrowsNV
Originally posted by crawdad1914
Homeland security is very interested in people who ATTEMPT to operate using cash in any amounts other than the price of a nice Dinner. You want them monitoring you night and day?
Originally posted by Skywatcher2011
reply to post by Corruption Exposed
If you are gonna bitch about bankers, then stop putting money into your bank account(s). Nuff said.
Follow justice and justice alone. (Deuteronomy 16:19, 20)
For the LORD is righteous, he loves justice . . . . (Job 11:5,7)
Learn to do right! Seek justice . . . . (Isaiah 1:17)
So if the powerful players in the giant banks broke the laws, they must be held to account.
Fraud and Manipulation of Money
The big banks have engaged in systemic, continuous ongoing criminal fraud.
Allowing the banks to commit crime with impunity is not what Jesus would do. What would Jesus do? Turn over the tables of the money-changers. (economists agree.)
Moreover, the giant banks manipulate currency through the use of schemes such as manipulating interest rates (gaming interest rates in different regions – Libor, Eurobor, etc. – can in turn drive their currencies up or down), high frequency trading and artificially suppressing gold prices (which artificially inflates the value of fiat money) .
As Ron Paul notes, the Bible forbids altering the quality of money (which, at the time and place, was entirely in the form of coins):
Even the Bible is clear that altering the quality of money is an immoral act. We are instructed to follow the rules of “just weights and measures.” “You shall do no injustice in judgment, in measurement of length, weight, or volume. You shall have just balances, just weights, a just ephah, and a just hin” (Leviticus 19:35-36). “Diverse weights are an abomination to the LORD, and a false balance is not good” (Proverbs 20:23). The general principle can be summed as “You shall not steal.”
Proverbs 11:1 also provides:
Dishonest scales are an abomination to the LORD, but a just weight is His delight.
So to the extent that the giant banks have engaged in any dishonest acts or the manipulation of currencies, they are violating scripture.
Oppression of the Poor
Finally, the Bible condemns oppression of the poor for the benefit of the affluent:
He that oppresses the poor to increase his riches, and he that gives to the rich, shall surely come to want. (Proverbs 22:16)
To the extent that the giant banks have oppressed the poor to increase their riches, they are violating scripture.
Due to their looting, inequality is now worse in American than in Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen, most Latin American banana republics … and ancient Rome.
Postscript: Not all bankers are bad people. For example, many bankers at smaller banks and credit unions are good people who are trying to help their communities. Source: markets.financialcontent.com...