What William Cooper wanted you to know

reply to post by spiderLL

William Cooper seemed to have allot of information about ufo's, if he were alive today there are few questions i would like to ask him.

Although i do not have any proof of the source of the information given to me,

This being told me that they came here a long time ago. They arrived in two ships on landed in Tunisia and one in Tibet.
I asked where the ships were now and i was told China recovered the ship from Tunisia and United States recovered the one from Tibet in 1940.

I would love to know if anyone out there could confirm this.

love and harmony
Whateva

William Cooper couldnt balance his info correctly
but he had enought info concerning how deep the secret goes with secret societies
he did the correct thing to talk about what he though he knew
of course they want to make the aliens a threat in our heads
so when the Creator return with its Angels in 2012 (the benevolent aliens)
they want everyone to attack them or fear them
they dont want people to embrace them like saviors
but like enemy of the New world order .. the kabal
the illuminati fear the aliens very much . they know they cant win
even in their deepest bunkers .. there will be no places to hide
why would the alien disable the nukes each time there is one in the air
even at many bases .. they burn the chips with a electric beam
dont be deceived .. the aliens are not a threat ... the illuminati are
because they woreship the god of chaos .. sacrifying so many
blood is their juice of life .. sick people
each and everyone of them are babylon whores

People should listen to their heart more
and have Faith in the Creator

reply to post by spiderLL


I am not so trusting as some other people in here. In fact, I have read reports about majestic12 since about 1993 or 1994 and the story has changed a bit. At first it was said that majestic12 was formed to investigate and hush hush stories about ufos, and cooper says something different, not to mention the fact that he apparently claims that all ufos are made by humans, and that they only started appearing only after the Germans made them, which sorry to say it is a lie.

There are stories, paintings, and texts that mention ufos for thousands of years if not longer. The Vedas, which are some of the oldest texts that we have mention ufos, called vimanas and how the gods/goddesses gave the knowledge on how to build ufos to some ancient Hindu people to fight wars against other gods/goddesses and their human followers.

The Vedas is not the only ancient text that describes ufos, and how they are piloted by advanced people from other planets/gods/godesses. In fact EVERY culture on the planet has stories, and ancient paintings of ufos and some of their occupants.

Not to mention that this claim that Linda, Art Bell and some other people work for the government to lie to the public about ufos is nothing more than a strawman, because we don't need these people to find out the truth about ufos.

The whole story by Cooper is part truth, and part exagerations, and lies. I am not sure if Cooper himself did this, or if people have taken into their own hands to change/twist what he actually said.

What I do know is the fact that ufos didn't just appear after the German NAZIs... UFOs have been around for thousands of years if not longer, and this is a bad sign that the claims made by Cooper, or whomever twisted/changed what he wrote are the ones lying.

9/11 was planned as an excuse to send us to war in the middle-east. It's not a conspiracy it's what has happend before every single war we have participated in. There's always an event planned or "allowed" to stir up the people and get them to want to go to war. It's nothing new, and it won't evert change.

Originally posted by gncnew

Originally posted by spiderLL
reply to post by Aliensun

 

I'm new to ATS and actually discovered it recently after the Aurora shooting. I saw a comment posted from Scott Creighton article and decided to check it out.

So, you're this informed about all things 9/11 and other massive government conspiracies, but you "just found" ATS?

I literally JUST googled "Conspiracy Theory Website" and ATS was #4...

But you "just" found it...

OMG - come on people.

I'm sorry,whats YOUR join date again?Myself and many others can say the same about your join date.What does that have to do with anything?

Back to the topic at hand.I read Behold A Pale Horse in 1992-ish,as a young 20 something who thought he knew everything in the world,it was an eye opener for sure.Is all of it true?Probably not,BUT..it was really the first time I became aware that there was alot more going on that I will ever know about.It made me thirsty to find out more.To question things.THAT's what is important to me.

It dont matter if Bill is drunk, christian, controlled opposition.

SEE IF THAT CHANGES THE TRUTH OF ANYTHING HE HAS SAID!

Originally posted by sirhumperdink
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

and this thread should be in the short stories section
i dont particularly care if it derailed the thread because it was a legitimate response to what the op posted and i disagree that it did if the op were to provide some evidence of legitimacy in response or someone made a logical argument as to why he is wrong that would be wonderful
as for the comments about what ats has become yes thats slightly off topic but sometimes it is acceptable and in fact necessary to see a bigger picture
ill keep my opinions of william cooper to myself (because im still on the fence and he does provide a lot of good information)
if you dont agree with whats being said its better to let your opinion and arguments be known rather than just avoiding it entirely ....if there was no dissent there would be no progress
im letting my opinion that i find there to be little reason to believe the ops story be known
do i want to believe? you bet i do its exciting and entertaining
but that doesnt mean i will without evidence

so spiderLL.... do you have any solid evidence that what you say is the truth?

edit on 20-8-2012 by sirhumperdink because: (no reason given)

I think the moderators decide if something is in the wrong place not us.

Try to look at it like this. A person comes on who is a compulsive or pathological liar. They have a story to tell. We have no right to try to figure this out, since we CAN'T know if they are are are not.

If we think they are liars we don't post on their thread. Thread has one or two responses and then dies.

People on the other hand come on and start taking personal shots at the unknown person who may or may not be lying...the thread grows and wastes space.

We also never get a chance to evaluate what we think of the person because they have been driven away. Now if they were NOT liers we will never have the information they could have provided due to the rude people who took pot shots at them and their thread.

Sorry for my ignorance on this subject but what's the ultimate purpose of this supposed one world government? The total perdition of mankind? If i rely on prophecies, mankind will go through extreme tribulations (we've supposedly seen nothing yet) but someday, as man will rediscover its true nature, all the rakshasas and asuras of this world will vanish like a dream.

reply to post by D1ss1dent


if i told you, would you believe me on faith? or will you keep looking into it?

the goal is total global domination of all resources and finances, transportation people and reproductive rights.

there will be much killing of dissidents during this changeover. the changeover happens very slowly over a few generations.

Originally posted by MrSmith
The whole thing rest upon not landing on the moon and the reasons why this person thinks you cant get there.

Busted. Next. Lets move on.

Well actually NO the WHOLE THING does not rest on that one thing.

Originally posted by spiderLL
Thanks for the responses!

Let me briefly discuss Aurora. I worked with John Doe in CSI and he got transferred to Denver about 2 years ago. During the times we worked together, we had the same insight about working for the corrupted gov't agencies. Since he went to Denver, he changed and started acting really suspicious and definitely "out of it." Even though we keep in touch, I don't fully trust him. After the shooting, I finally got the nerve to ask him if he knew anything. He did tell me that it was staged and that Holmes was "planted" and I took that as Holmes being the fall guy. I haven't asked him since.

Late last year, a then and now ex-friend from DHS and I had a discussion about a potential war with Iran. He disclosed that he heard the agency were going to purchase over 2 billion ammos for their protection. His excuse: "In case the terrorists attacks us." BS! So it was recently I heard in news report that there were in fact, 1.6 billions ammo purchased by DHS.

4 months before 9/11, my best friend was in the military and was deployed to Afghanistan. I remembered him being so worried because he didn't understand why he and others were going to Afghanistan and this was not even reported to the general public. I have a letter mailed to me after he went there. His letter was lengthy and what caught my attention is when he wrote "You were right. I don't like killing people and they are having me kill people for fun. They're not bad people. I want to come home. Something bad will happen in the united states, we will not be free anymore, and we will be fighting a war for our own rights. Whatever you do, protect yourself, and don't fly." I have never heard from him since. And no one will give me an answer.

The ex-CIA once told me that if I wanted to live then I "would need to join the force. [I] have to think like them even though it is not in [my] heart, but it was the only way [I] could save people.

They are going to purchase "2 billion ammos"? From a LEO? I have never in my entire life heard anyone especially law enforcement use the term "ammos". Ever.

Originally posted by Tauvington
9/11 was planned as an excuse to send us to war in the middle-east. It's not a conspiracy it's what has happend before every single war we have participated in. There's always an event planned or "allowed" to stir up the people and get them to want to go to war. It's nothing new, and it won't evert change.

If 9/11 was PLANNED as an EXCUSE for war and we are being told otherwise...it IS a CONSPIRACY. No matter how many times it may have happened.

Originally posted by deadeyedick
reply to post by okyouwin

 

It's about a good and honest man being murdered.
It's about your freedom and your kids freedom regardless of your sellout status or your loyalty to disinfo if you can fathom such.

It's about me living in the real world.

About a good man being murdered. Well he was shot so I guess he was murdered. By whom? That's the question. Don't get me wrong I'm not one who believes our government is a bunch of squeaky clean choir boys, never up to anything underhanded. sneaky. deceptive and not in the interest of the general population. No there really are some nasty behind the scenes activity. Conspiracies are real and many, Don't get me started on that Kennedy thing, and 9/11, forget about it. I guess I should really brush up on what Cooper had to say, But whatever, it seems odd to me that someone could go for years spreading information on such a public scale, and only then the decision was made to silence him Maybe he was on to something I really don't know,. I do strongly suspect Mr. Cooper made quit a bit of cash on this operation, and we can't just ignore this as a motive.

What I do find believable, however, is that the systems of this world, financial, political, and religious, are all in a rapid state of deterioration All of this being the inevitable out come of an economic system designed to benefit the few. This system has allowed these few to gain an enormous portion of the wealth and power. Now they are messing with you, and have no solutions other than more of the same

I am not loyal to disinformation. The only information I can gather is from my own senses. That's right my own lying eyes. I don't need some individual like Bill Cooper telling me some fantastical convoluted story about aliens, lack of aliens, and the dastardly folks at the top putting in place a smooth operating system of control for the entire planet.

No, what I really need to know is that our systems have reached full potential and are about to collapse. What we need to focus on friends, are not fairly tales but real solutions. And we better get started soon.

reply to post by okyouwin


veritas and the harvest trust operated in the red most of the time. now doyel and caji hold seminars but i doubt anyone is getting rich.

reply to post by okyouwin


i hope you know and understand who the enemy is and what the problem is. otherwise your cannon fodder

Originally posted by Kastogere
reply to post by okyouwin

 

I literally spent my entire life both growing up with the military and then being stupid enough to work for them at one time...I can honestly say I put nothing past our government. Which is why I hold the position that I do.

Personally its probably not our military you have to worry about...its the UN or a foreign peacekeeper with nothing invested in the American people.

Think about it.....America is seen as the great devil not just by the mid east, but also in Europe. They firmly believe that what ever happens...we had it coming. And they may be right. Whether Bill Coop is talkin crap or not makes no difference. HIs ideals are not too far fetched from what really is occurring on a grander scale.

You have to ask what if in this case....What if there really is a master plan to crush the freedoms of the world? And What if they really are using all forms of tech to bring it about?

People only know about what they are told....its like your wife cheats on you with the mailman for years....you have no idea until you find out the shocking details right?

Im afraid all we can do is prepare and sit back and watch the show until its our cue to hit the parking lot before the end of the show rush.

It is wise to have a plan and not need it, than to be unwise and need a plan and not have it.

Well said. I'm not so sure about the master plan, I know how difficult it is to organize a family reunion. I'm more in line with this being the inevitable conclusion of a faulty economic system dominated by corporate control. When profit becomes the primal motive, with profit depending on unbridled growth, corners get cut, laws are disregarded, human life be damned, national sovereignty scoffed at, and ability to see that signpost just ahead,"Danger. Sharp Drop Off", is lost.

I do believe we are to see some harsh times, due to troubles with those systems that have brought us such cozy comfort. There will be thugs and despots arise to seize power, control, and profit, there's that word again.

Our most basic interactions as humans in large populations are economic in nature. We need to change the ultimate motivation here from greed to altruism. Maybe we should get focused on what changes are possible now to defang this runaway train

Originally posted by TTAA2012

Originally posted by TRGreer

Originally posted by TTAA2012

Originally posted by okyouwin
reply to post by spiderLL

 

You ask," Who is Barack Obama?"

Everyone who knows the answer to that question is in on the scam or dead.

He's our president0

Yours maybe, not mine.

Who did you think he was?

I'm thinking he's a creation of the Luciferian NWO, considering everything we know about his CIA "parents," his total lack of verifiable history, etc.

He's up to no good huh?

Count on it.

In cahoots with the evil cabal?

Most assuredly.

A puppet for sure, but a chosen puppet groomed educated to do one thing. And you know what that is?

Leading the entire world to its end.

I'm surprised you didn't call him Obammy A lot of people think that's fun.

At least it's funnier than having to call him "Massa." That's right, I said it. Obama is the first potential slave master in the US since the end of the Civil War (See Executive Order 13603.) The President has given himself, and those he designates, the power to force US citizens to labor "without compensation," and we're not talking about prisoners here, but mainstream people; doctors, lawyers, day laborers, and anyone else that may have a skill the government needs.

Or just an occasion to slander our president.

Obama IS a slander, a stain on a bum's undies. He doesn't need anyone's help to look bad because he's doing fine all by himself.

You think "massa" Obama is any different from "massa" Bush or "massa" Clinton or potential "massa" Romeny? The government has never stopped enslaving Americans. We are enslaved by the monetary system. US law makers much like the laws they write are rotten to the core. Do you honestly believe a system of government that has been corrupted and twisted into a greed/power mongers playground could ever produce honest politicians? They divide us and then turn us against each other. They fiddle while the new Rome burns.

I don't believe that at all. Romney and Bush are just as evil as Obama. They are all pawns doing the Devil's work. We're in for a hard time in the next few years, regardless of who is chosen to be the next POTUS.

I don't know whose work they are doing but I think we both agree that its serves only their ends.

Originally posted by rainbowbear
reply to post by okyouwin

 

i hope you know and understand who the enemy is and what the problem is. otherwise your cannon fodder

And I suppose your understanding is going to keep you from that fate. Cannon fodder I kinda doubt. Hungry, destitute masses, powerless with little hope or humanity left, is probably more realistic.When the food runs out, why bother bringing in the cannons? You'll be dead in a couple weeks anyway. I'm not denying there are bad times ahead. We're in the sh**t. I just think it possible to soften out this landing, that's coming, Become a diligent, informed and active citizen. Start local. it's all you got. Get to know who's representing you. I mean to really get to know them, not what you're told. Inform yourself by participation and observation, get involved baby. We can flush this government from the bottom up, or we can cower in fear of the threats that are the least likely.

reply to post by okyouwin

The author of this video knew him well and felt he needed to get out the true direction of his beliefs.
He has some previous videos that seem to have disappeared from you tube over the years that hold more info on Bill Cooper.

Originally posted by okyouwin

Originally posted by deadeyedick
reply to post by okyouwin

 

It's about a good and honest man being murdered.
It's about your freedom and your kids freedom regardless of your sellout status or your loyalty to disinfo if you can fathom such.

It's about me living in the real world.

About a good man being murdered. Well he was shot so I guess he was murdered. By whom? That's the question. Don't get me wrong I'm not one who believes our government is a bunch of squeaky clean choir boys, never up to anything underhanded. sneaky. deceptive and not in the interest of the general population. No there really are some nasty behind the scenes activity. Conspiracies are real and many, Don't get me started on that Kennedy thing, and 9/11, forget about it. I guess I should really brush up on what Cooper had to say, But whatever, it seems odd to me that someone could go for years spreading information on such a public scale, and only then the decision was made to silence him Maybe he was on to something I really don't know,. I do strongly suspect Mr. Cooper made quit a bit of cash on this operation, and we can't just ignore this as a motive.

What I do find believable, however, is that the systems of this world, financial, political, and religious, are all in a rapid state of deterioration All of this being the inevitable out come of an economic system designed to benefit the few. This system has allowed these few to gain an enormous portion of the wealth and power. Now they are messing with you, and have no solutions other than more of the same

I am not loyal to disinformation. The only information I can gather is from my own senses. That's right my own lying eyes. I don't need some individual like Bill Cooper telling me some fantastical convoluted story about aliens, lack of aliens, and the dastardly folks at the top putting in place a smooth operating system of control for the entire planet.

No, what I really need to know is that our systems have reached full potential and are about to collapse. What we need to focus on friends, are not fairly tales but real solutions. And we better get started soon.

I can't find any record of how much money he had. Here is his address... goggled looks like an apartment.
1311 South Highland Avenue, Fullerton, CA