What William Cooper wanted you to know

Originally posted by xEphon
Something strikes me odd about this OP.
Like I've read it before.
Even the username looks familiar.

So I am going to remain skeptical about this story for a while longer and question its true intentions.

I think healthy skepticism is great, even necessary. But for those who go farther and slander unknown persons instead of staying on topic and sharing their views ON THE SUBJECT or LEAVING the thread.
I ask why? Why do you bother!What is your TRUE purpose here?

If I feel a thread is a lie or stupid or boring I move on, that should be the only reaction.

reply to post by Char-Lee


Im sorry Char.Lee, I shouldn't have cussed on my post. I just get tired of ppl being OVERLY suspicious so much so they completely miss the point altogether. How does one discern what is true? I guess some folks have a hard time with that.. and some of us don't .. Remember dear, ' Those who have eyes to see, will see, those who have ears to hear, will hear...'
and from what I am seeing it is like slamming your head against a brick wall. You cannot convince folks of the truth if they just don't get it. You can't make 'em , so why bother. Don't let them bother you. Continue on in good conscience .. Let it shine cause that is all we can do. Don't let the naysayers hurt your feelings. Keep the best and forget the rest.... see? Pearls before swine my dear..

Originally posted by spiderLL
reply to post by Slave NO MORE

 

Thanks!! I have the PDF file that he gave to me. I was fascinated with the JFK reporting that he included in it. I am not sure how to attach and I doubt that I can. It might be available online because a friend of mine made it available online earlier last year. If you google it and add "pdf" at the end of it.

He had some interesting stories for sure, bit he also said that JFK was shot by the driver. But that is not true of course.

Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by Revolution9
reply to post by spiderLL

 

I can very easily see that you are a total fraud and have made all this up as a story.

I cannot believe that these people who are replying are taking you seriously!

This thread and all the ignorance here has so disgusted me I am boycotting this whole site. Most of the people here are rude and deceitful. The very fact that this thread is popular speaks volumes about the lack of intelligence of most of the people who visit ATS.

That Cooper bloke was a fool. He got what was coming to him. He was a violent, deluded and horrible man because he deceived so many people, just like you are doing. I will use your thread as my prime example of why I am leaving ATS in my farewell address!.

What utter junk!

I was reading along, not really thinking much one way or another on this thread until this post.

You are LEAVING a whole site because of THIS post.
Seeing how many who are on here stared this post, again, made me suddenly take notice.

How odd people on a site like ATS after a couple pages so many star a guy saying I am leaving because of this post?

I find this truly odd behavior.

People have NO way at all of knowing anything about people online anywhere in most cases. When the truth is finally presented to the ones sifting through millions of pages of crude...like Cooper probably did...the truth will be seen and not even recognized because we all jump to our own biased conclusions which is ignorance supreme.

How do you expect to learn or discover anything outside mainstream sources? Reading things like this should be considered work, necessary effort!

A thousand post may claim "hey I am CIA in the know" one may be true and you will never even see it. Go back to CNN and Discovery then, why were you here in the first place!

i gave this guy a star
im not paid and i have no agenda and i can recall several times i have agreed with you on things in the past
however i really do agree that ats has been going down hill in the last two years or so (used to lurk before i was a poster)
and i really do believe the op is a fraud
he has provided no new solid information and his (most likely) fictional story could have been written by almost any member of this site
when faced with a lack of evidence it is always good to play the skeptic and this guy has left us with a severe deficiency of information and some of what he says (ex. being the reason he chose ats and the claim that he has not had to do anything he found morally reprehensible while he was a law enforcement officer) seems very suspect
at this point i would have more faith in the ramblings of a mentally unstable homeless man

I am MichaelGabriel

I wonder if we can trust anyone who has been under the influence of the military. Can they even trust themselves? I am what is referred to as a military brat. My father and his father before him were in the Army. I do not know much about my Grandfather. My father was among the middle east specialist, rangers, and last but not least Psy-Op. I will speak no more about them for safety is a small bridge less traveled. I am just stating that how well do you vibrate with information? I loved William Coopers Information just like the rest of us. He is and was not a person I would follow. He was very smart, maybe to smart for his own good. I am just a nobody I assure you readers. Or could the ego I posses be more than the self respect I uphold beyond Earthly standards? Aliens are not here? I mean I can bite, hooked in all. I guess what I am trying to empathize here is we all do not know anything. Most of us if not all have been mk-ultra'd. There are certain things going on. William said his self that he discovered this all through his own research. Well I am thankful. We all should be thankful. Trust in what feels right when you read something and a lot of it resonates well with me. Some things do not as much as others. I believe I can sense in his rants when he was reaching. Well, let's face it have you ever believed in something so much that you just had to make your point? Rest in peace Sir William Cooper or keep fighting for us behind the scenes. We all have a lot to learn from each other let's try to co-exist. I guess what I was hurt by was all of the "It's not aliens" and like I said, I can bite, but how hard? Am I wrong? I believe that we are all aliens and we are all evolved differently. Our teachers come and go and some of us are not on the path as everyone else. So what with this information what will you do with it? Be apart of an informational exchange out of the universal rights. When you know something is not right try your best to fix it. I believe in extraterrestrial life. Maybe not like hollywood does. but enough to know that we should stay healthy and take care of free radicals where ever they invade. So stating all this nonsense, could it be possible he was lead to gain followers to weed out the real problem behind this one world goverment?

Wow that's an interesting story. I don't doubt any of it. Stay safe.

William Cooper was right about many things..Good man

reply to post by okyouwin


No distraction here amigo.......I have em over the barrel....growing up with the government will do that to you.

reply to post by sirhumperdink


That post you stared derailed the subject completely (intentionally?) and ended the conversation. From there it becomes a conversation about ATS posters and all the crud that goes on here. That should be another thread.

Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by Revolution9
reply to post by spiderLL

 

I can very easily see that you are a total fraud and have made all this up as a story.

I cannot believe that these people who are replying are taking you seriously!

This thread and all the ignorance here has so disgusted me I am boycotting this whole site. Most of the people here are rude and deceitful. The very fact that this thread is popular speaks volumes about the lack of intelligence of most of the people who visit ATS.

That Cooper bloke was a fool. He got what was coming to him. He was a violent, deluded and horrible man because he deceived so many people, just like you are doing. I will use your thread as my prime example of why I am leaving ATS in my farewell address!.

What utter junk!

I was reading along, not really thinking much one way or another on this thread until this post.

You are LEAVING a whole site because of THIS THREAD.
Seeing how many who are on here stared your post, again, made me suddenly take notice.

How odd people on a site like ATS after a couple pages so many star a guy saying I am leaving because of this post?

I find this truly odd behavior.

People have NO way at all of knowing anything about people online anywhere in most cases. When the truth is finally presented to the ones sifting through millions of pages of crude...like Cooper probably did...the truth will be seen and not even recognized because we all jump to our own biased conclusions which is ignorance supreme.

How do you expect to learn or discover anything outside mainstream sources? Reading things like this should be considered work, necessary effort!

A thousand post may claim "hey I am CIA in the know" one may be true and you will never even see it. Go back to CNN and Discovery then, why were you here in the first place!

edit on 20-8-2012 by Char-Lee because: (no reason given)

Quite true Char Lee,
Maybe R9 will return as R29D2, he/she liked to predict too, as in politics, a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.

Originally posted by Kastogere
reply to post by okyouwin

 

No distraction here amigo.......I have em over the barrel....growing up with the government will do that to you.

Well brother, I want you to know, if that gets that bad, we're counting on you.

reply to post by Char-Lee


and this thread should be in the short stories section
i dont particularly care if it derailed the thread because it was a legitimate response to what the op posted and i disagree that it did if the op were to provide some evidence of legitimacy in response or someone made a logical argument as to why he is wrong that would be wonderful
as for the comments about what ats has become yes thats slightly off topic but sometimes it is acceptable and in fact necessary to see a bigger picture
ill keep my opinions of william cooper to myself (because im still on the fence and he does provide a lot of good information)
if you dont agree with whats being said its better to let your opinion and arguments be known rather than just avoiding it entirely ....if there was no dissent there would be no progress
im letting my opinion that i find there to be little reason to believe the ops story be known
do i want to believe? you bet i do its exciting and entertaining
but that doesnt mean i will without evidence

so spiderLL.... do you have any solid evidence that what you say is the truth?

I am really interested to hear your entire view of our current situation. I for one believe that our "government" doesn't allow us to be informed of the real issues they deal with and the ones we want dealt with. They sugar-coat everything and usually keep us in the dark. I was very intrigued with your post.

I don't know what Bill Cooper's narrative is I'm sure it's an interesting story. It offers an alternative to what we are told. Several of these alternatives out there, and I would think each has some degree of the reality in them. We don't really know what's going on. I don't think the people who know what's going on, know what's going on.

What happens is that one will find bits and pieces that seem for sure and latch on to them, Believing and defending them becomes of utmost importance. Just remember an alternative reality is subject to an alternative reality. Poor Billy shot in his front yard: could have been to shut him up, could have been a gambling debt.

All you sharp guys will want to take those parts you believe, tie them to another story by one of the known story tellers out there, to get a bigger and better picture, and pretty soon it all looks really strange, but some how makes all sorts of sense.

Try this. Close you eyes. Lose all the stories in your head. Open your eyes, and look around. And then you will see what's really going on. A slow relentless dramatic decline in your standard of living. And the reality is you might not be able to change that. No I don't think the aliens are going to help.

reply to post by okyouwin


I literally spent my entire life both growing up with the military and then being stupid enough to work for them at one time...I can honestly say I put nothing past our government. Which is why I hold the position that I do.

Personally its probably not our military you have to worry about...its the UN or a foreign peacekeeper with nothing invested in the American people.

Think about it.....America is seen as the great devil not just by the mid east, but also in Europe. They firmly believe that what ever happens...we had it coming. And they may be right. Whether Bill Coop is talkin crap or not makes no difference. HIs ideals are not too far fetched from what really is occurring on a grander scale.

You have to ask what if in this case....What if there really is a master plan to crush the freedoms of the world? And What if they really are using all forms of tech to bring it about?

People only know about what they are told....its like your wife cheats on you with the mailman for years....you have no idea until you find out the shocking details right?

Im afraid all we can do is prepare and sit back and watch the show until its our cue to hit the parking lot before the end of the show rush.

It is wise to have a plan and not need it, than to be unwise and need a plan and not have it.

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reply to post by intrptr

So humans invented UFO's? To fake out humans that aliens are real, so that we believe in aliens, so that we think wait... what?

Maybe if you clicked on the link that the OP provided you would know what the hell I'm talking about. You also have to READ not sure if that's possible judging from your comment

The whole thing rest upon not landing on the moon and the reasons why this person thinks you cant get there.

Busted. Next. Lets move on.

Some one remarked that the best way to unite all the nations on this globe would be an attack from some other planet. In the face of such an alien enemy, people would respond with a sense of their unity of interest and purpose. We have the next thing to that at the present time. Before a common menace, North and South America, the Occident, and Orient have done an unheard of thing, a wonderful thing, a thing which, it may well be, future history will point to as the most significant thing in these days of wonderful happenings. They have joined forces amply and intimately in a common cause with one another and with the European nations which were most directly threatened. What a few dreamers hoped might happen in the course of some slow coming century has become an accomplished fact in a few swift years. In spite of geographical distance, unlike speech, diverse religion, and hitherto independent aims, nations from every continent have formed what for the time being is nothing less than a world state, an immense cooperative action in behalf of civilization.

(John Dewey Speech 1917)
www.hourofthetime.com...

kinda ironic that the creator of our public education system is the one who first mentioned the the concept of miss-educating the public regarding an attack from another planet..

PS: for those ridiculing the possibility of this..... do you really not see the logic behind it??? not that i necessarily believe it... just another scenario to at least be considered... and if not... there's a hole in the sand just big enough for your head...

Is it a mystery that the all western societies and especially USA is controlled by the Zionist Jews?
In the 80's it was even talked about on mainstream TV program 60 minutes.
Did anything change?
Nothing at all!
Will anything change in the foreseeable future?
NOT A CHANCE!

So keep on talking while the Zionist Jews are dancing and feasting in Washington and Brussels and killing all their opponents who dare to say anything against them.
Yes, they are killing people for saying the truth.
There is a name for this : serial killing!