The James Holmes Conspiracy (2012 Full Documentary)

About half way through.

This sums it up, thus far:

Originally posted by djr33222
I saw the entire video.

Everything about James Holmes I already knew, but the hour long history of Mk Ultra and government mind control was somewhat new to me.

That surreptitious conversation at the end between Larry King and Bill Clinton completely shocked me.

edit on 18-8-2012 by djr33222 because: (no reason given)

yeah what was that conversation all about??

http: //m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DeS2TGevJu0c%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded&feature=player_embedded&v=eS2TGevJu0c&gl=US

This may have been already discussed, but are there PA systems in movie theaters and what clerk would ever anounce "Murder in the theater" ???

When I watched the documentry, I started digging and there was no other witnesses mentioning it.

Originally posted by PatrickGarrow17
First I was disturbed by the shooting.

Then I was disturbed by the way the Media milked it.

Then I was disturbed by what seemed to be a disconnect in reporting and reality.

Then I was disturbed that the majority of people accepted it, no questions.

Then I was disturbed by Gun rights implications.

Then I was disturbed when everyone forgot about the whole thing in less than a month.

I'm pretty disturbed.

I'm disturbed by how many people flocked to the movies right after the incident, and say "Life has to go on". Okay. Well. You won't see me in a theater, at least not in a long time. I tried to go twice and turned back. It does not feel right for some reason. Maybe that's my own paranoia. Maybe it's intuition. The thing is, we don't know what is next and right now my senses are running high.

This sucks because I love the movie house, have always gone to the theater, and now it just doesn't feel the same.

Thanks OP for the video!
The documentary sure does raise interesting questions. I think the police radio and the scattered equipment are the most solid evidence supporting the multiple shooter theory. Witness testimonies support it as well, but as someone mentioned, they can be unreliable. Also the whole court gag order raises some eyebrows...

I don't mean to derail or to grasp straws here, but when someone mentioned several weird things relating to Aurora and Colorado, I suddenly remembered the creepy murals at Denver airport. Anyone remember those?
They depicted gun grabbing, all nations wrapping weapons in flags and destroying them. Dang, ATS makes me see conspiracies everywhere...

Originally posted by djr33222
I saw the entire video.

Everything about James Holmes I already knew, but the hour long history of Mk Ultra and government mind control was somewhat new to me.

That surreptitious conversation at the end between Larry King and Bill Clinton completely shocked me.

edit on 18-8-2012 by djr33222 because: (no reason given)

i may be missing something, but i don't know what was so shocking about the off-air conversation between larry and bill. it sounded like ted turner would help clinton out, that's all i got out of it... ted turner is a democrat, so i don't know what was shocking.

Originally posted by djr33222

Originally posted by Starchildren
Just finished the documentary and, oh my God. The part with Larry King and President Clinton at the end, brought chills all over my body. I have never seen that video clip before.

I'm the same as you,

That part and the previous clips showing a (possibly) brainwashed Clinton... And how did they know he would get elected... And why did Larry King say "Ted Turner wants to serve you." He said SERVE. And then he added "He wants to serve you, if you know what I mean."

And Clinton apparently did know exactly what he meant..

We won't know though..

It is all just really weird.

edit on 19-8-2012 by djr33222 because: (no reason given)

That was the sentence that weirded me out.

I watched the video and I agree with some of it. I apologize but I haven't posted on here in a while due to some black truck sitting in my driveway for a while after I started posting on here. See I live very close to an Air Force base. I am also ex-military. That is all I can say at the moment. But I do have some friends in the area, and one in particular just left to Michigan due to her "Boyfriend" troubles. See, she found out some things about this guy, that she won't even tell me about. So I did some digging. Come to find out he goes to the Air Force installation, but when I contacted them with this guys name, they said no one by that name works at this installation. Here is a picture of the guy, next to James Holmes. Please compare thoughts. I hope this also helps the OP on his conclusions. It's just one big mystery. But I will tell you the military does have a "Truth Drug". When I served in Iraq the CIA ops would use it on detainees to get information out of them. And the only reason we have not won Afghanistan is because the Insurgents have fled to Pakistan and only come over the border to take "Pop Shots" at our troops. That is why you see Drones flying in Pakistan, even though it is illegal for us to do that. Anyway, Thanks for the video and I hope you all enjoy the picture. I will probably be back on the watch list after posting this.

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Very interesting. The guy looks remarkably like our supposed James Holmes mugshot. He's taking his own picture and I see another hat on the floor as if he's trying on several and taking pictures of himself in what looks like a child's room or nursery school.

The video was good but overly long and included more than it should in terms of movie clips. Missing was any analysis of the blood trails behind the theater which speak volumes to me. There were at least 3 distinct blood trails leading from the exit door and one of them went to a parking space 2 spots away from where Holme's car was parked and looked as though someone got in the back end of a vehicle parked there. The very heavy blood trail was leading away from the theater, not back in to it as I've seen several YT videos claim (disinformation?) and led down towards where the gas mask was found on the far corner.
This was also the gas mask where the picture was altered by the MSM to remove some object next to or underneath it.
None of the OS adds up here. That Alex Milano dude showing up is icing on the conspiracy cake.

Ill have to watch this later and see what all the fuss is about.

Originally posted by sirnukeem
It stunk, n0t w0rth the time investment. Tells y0u n0thing we d0nt already kn0w with bits 0f clint0n and
larry king *live clips 0f them saying things y0u can't understand./

Why did you replace o's with 0's? At first I thought it was a mistype, but you did it for every o. Annoying.

Have you ever tried to put the gear on by yourself that he was wearing..let alone in the dark and under pressure .....That quickly.....

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This guys picture looks a lot like the picture of Holmes. Do you have any further information on the guy with a fake name and fake job and his supposed military connections that could shed light on this.

Originally posted by Slave NO MORE
Hey all,

I found the following video on Youtube. Just wanted to share!

For those who do not believe the story we are being told by the government and media. The James Holmes Conspiracy. Several witness testimonies, news reports, theories and ideas behind the motives of the crime. Topics discussed include the second suspect, weapons, police audio analysis, James Holmes education and bio, LIBOR scandal, MK Ultra, Project Gunrunner, and several other important elements. Several new pieces of evidence and testimonies all in one video.

Oof, so this is one big debunked mess riddled with senseless speculation?

Originally posted by hanyak69
Have you ever tried to put the gear on by yourself that he was wearing..let alone in the dark and under pressure .....That quickly.....

was wondering that too. movie started around 12:05?, he watched it for about 20 minutes before getting the call and going to the exit, and then by around 12:40 the cops were there. assuming the car was already parked there and the guns already loaded. also noted reports that James had red paint all over his body when found in his car, which he had to have put on when getting the armor on because if he went in the theater with red paint on someone would of noticed him. can someone change clothes and into that bullet proof armor so quickly? actually, now I'm thinking only someone in the army, a cop, swat or someone trained can change that quickly... but someone that knows better can answer.

when this first happened reports said Jame's had to be familiar with the layout of the theater to know where to park his car and knew his way around it which meant he was there before atleast a few times. Kinda goes back to the idea of checking surveillance cameras for him or his car if he was there before- which I guess would be a painstaking task to go over them going back atleast 4 months so probably won't be looked into.

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Another thing is all the clothes strewn around outside, Holmes was supposedly found in full SWAT gear,was even mistaken for a SWAT team member. And there was another gas mask, I seen it on at least two of the first photo's released, it was very near his car, I recall mentally marking the position. Others seen it too. It isn't to be found on any of the pics now. And how did the other gas mask get there so far along the building. The police radio says ''we got gas maskS'' plural. Then the report of a culprit possibly wearing a check shirt.

It is also very odd that absolutely no proper details have been released yet.

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Then the judge gags everyone......When I was in the Army and putting on balistic gear it would take a few minutes utilizing the "buddy system" . Alone would take a whole lot more time. He would have had to practice alot. The other thing is making smoke bombs and trip wire booby traps.

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Interesting..... and thanks for sharing that.
Yes, there is definitely a resemblance. Even the sideburn growth looks the same between the two, or one.

No offense to the messenger, and not doubting what you are saying either - just wondering.
But is it possible that this could just be an "uncirculated" photo of Holmes that we are seeing?

Really good watch, thanks to the OP for sharing it.

is there any other place to watch this video? You tube just keeps rebuffering every 45 seconds and that circle does around for several minutes each time. Not worth watching that way.

Originally posted by ahitler
I watched the video and I agree with some of it. I apologize but I haven't posted on here in a while due to some black truck sitting in my driveway for a while after I started posting on here. See I live very close to an Air Force base. I am also ex-military. That is all I can say at the moment. But I do have some friends in the area, and one in particular just left to Michigan due to her "Boyfriend" troubles. See, she found out some things about this guy, that she won't even tell me about. So I did some digging. Come to find out he goes to the Air Force installation, but when I contacted them with this guys name, they said no one by that name works at this installation. Here is a picture of the guy, next to James Holmes. Please compare thoughts. I hope this also helps the OP on his conclusions. It's just one big mystery. But I will tell you the military does have a "Truth Drug". When I served in Iraq the CIA ops would use it on detainees to get information out of them. And the only reason we have not won Afghanistan is because the Insurgents have fled to Pakistan and only come over the border to take "Pop Shots" at our troops. That is why you see Drones flying in Pakistan, even though it is illegal for us to do that. Anyway, Thanks for the video and I hope you all enjoy the picture. I will probably be back on the watch list after posting this.

well, on the surface.... that's a bombshell.

beyond the surface... there is a lot more research needed into the information you just provided, along with verification

just when i thought it was crazy, you went and poured on more crazy