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Ayatollah Khomeini thinks you are a witless, foolish soul and he wants to spit on you for thinking that Islam counsels against war and doesn't require able bodied Muslims to conquer so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. I feel that he is being unduly harsh.
You have just made the mistake of defending something you clearly don't understand.
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
Please respond with more quotes and irrelevant garbage that does nothing to address the issue at hand.
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
I am sure more people would love to read your bastardized interpretation of another religion's holy book.
Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless.
Islam says, kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all!
...Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”
—Ayatollah Khomeini (1902-1989) Iran’s Supreme Leader from 1979 to 1989—the highest ranking political and religious authority of the nation.
Link
Allah's Apostle said:
"I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle."
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 24
Hadith Muslim 20:4681
"The gates of Paradise are under the shadows of the swords."
Muhammad
Hadith Muslim
Quotes from the Koran and Hadith that prove that Muhammad told his followers to dominate by the sword and to enagage in jihad are irrelevant?
Your logic is very, very special.
You know next to nothing about Islam, as demonstrated by the pitiful level of knowledge you demonstrate in your posts - you lead zero evidence - merely endless politically correct platitudes, yet you defend what you clearly do not understand.
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
What do I need evidence for? I am not the one making any claim against Islam.
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
You are intentionally misdirecting the conversation, and then you try to say that I am somehow stupid because I refuse to follow your train wreck logic?
Yet you are a self styled defender Islam.
The level of violence that Christians have been subjected to in the last 20 months at the hands of Muslims is very relevant when considering the likelihood of Christians being crucified by Muslims.
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by sheepslayer247
Blah blah blah. Their holy book says some bad stuff.....we got it.
I'm still waiting for the proof that shows the crucifixions. If you want to make the case that Muslims are bad by reading me their literature, top it off with pics of video of this crucifixion.
If your "logic" is so superior to mine, put the final nail in my coffin and provide proof. Otherwise, you are just shaking a tree that bares no fruit.
Ayatollah Khomeini thinks you are a witless, foolish soul and he wants to spit on you for thinking that Islam counsels against war and doesn't require able bodied Muslims to conquer so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. I feel that he is being unduly harsh.
You have just made the mistake of defending something you clearly don't understand.
I didn't defend anything. I said that one religion is no better than the other and I want to see some proof.
I think you made the mistake of wandering away from the hospital without your "happy pills". If you want to talk about logic....well....you have destroyed that.
Please respond with more quotes and irrelevant garbage that does nothing to address the issue at hand. I am sure more people would love to read your bastardized interpretation of another religion's holy book.edit on 20-8-2012 by sheepslayer247 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by ollncasino
Yet you are a self styled defender Islam.
What is a self-styled defender of Islam? I have no clue what that even means.
If you are trying to say that I am defending Islamic violence....you are wrong.
I just want to see evidence of a crucifixtion before I pass judgement. Is that so hard to understand?
The level of violence that Christians have been subjected to in the last 20 months at the hands of Muslims is very relevant when considering the likelihood of Christians being crucified by Muslims.
Key word here: Likelihood!
There's also a small likelihood that the monkeys from the Wizard of Oz may fly out of my backside whilst they whistle the tune from Smokey and the Bandit.
That does not mean it has actually happened.
So keep on doing what you are doing if that is the course you which to take. But I will remain impartial until such time that evidence is brought forth to prove whether or not this occurred.
Originally posted by ollncasino
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
What do I need evidence for? I am not the one making any claim against Islam.
Yet you are a self styled defender Islam. Which is unfortunate for Islam as you know next to nothing about it.
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
You are intentionally misdirecting the conversation, and then you try to say that I am somehow stupid because I refuse to follow your train wreck logic?
The level of violence that Christians have been subjected to in the last 20 months at the hands of Muslims is very relevant when considering the likelihood of Christians being crucified by Muslims.
www.thereligionofpeace.com...
What is a self-styled defender of Islam? I have no clue what that even means.
Originally posted by milominderbinder
reply to post by ollncasino
Here's what www.thereligionofpeace.com themselves say about their "sources"...
Link: www.thereligionofpeace.com...
"Keep in mind that only a single source is retained for each incident, even though multiple sources are often used to construct details at the time of entry. This means that the linked article may not include all of the properties of the attack, including accurate casualty figures or the identity of the victims or perpetrators. Where these exceptions occur, missing details can be gleaned from other sources.
Casualty figures often change over time as victims of Islamic terror succumb to their injuries. The retained source may or may not be updated to reflect this. On those occasions where we do decide to replace the source link, the new article may neglect other details of the attack included in our description. If you don't like this, then do your own homework."
So...what they are saying is:
"Look at all these really scary things that happened! Although we could be wrong and it could be the CHRISTIANS doing this to the Muslims, might not have really resulted in any injuries or deaths, and might not have gone down AT ALL like we reported....and if you don't like it...go somewhere else to obtain actual journalism other than the xenophobic rantings of lunatics that you will find here".
You should be ashamed for falling for this thinly-veiled and poorly constructed attempt at propaganda. Feel free to apologize to the thread and to humanity in general for posting such alarmist accounts of "attacks" which your own "source" says might be purely fictional and only has occurred in the imagination of the webmaster.
Look, I don't know if the Egyptian crucifixions took place or not. Neither do you.
You're right. So why are we not addressing that issue first and foremost. That is the topic of the thread.
Is this really about truth...or is this about pushing an agenda so that weak-willed pansies get all scared because them scary Islamacists may come get them?
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by ollncasino
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
What do I need evidence for? I am not the one making any claim against Islam.
Yet you are a self styled defender Islam. Which is unfortunate for Islam as you know next to nothing about it.
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
You are intentionally misdirecting the conversation, and then you try to say that I am somehow stupid because I refuse to follow your train wreck logic?
The level of violence that Christians have been subjected to in the last 20 months at the hands of Muslims is very relevant when considering the likelihood of Christians being crucified by Muslims.
• 2012.03.04 Egypt Abu Al-Reesh. Two nuns are injured when a Muslim mob of 1500 lays siege to a Catholic school on rumors of a church building.
• 2012.01.26 Egypt Bahgourah. A Christian father and son are machine-gunned by Muslims after refusing to pay money.
• 2012.01.19 Egypt Kebly-Rahmaniya. A man and boy suffer gunshot injuries when a mob rampages through a Christian town, shouting 'Allah Akbar' and burning homes.
• 2012.06.11 Egypt Cairo. Several Christian students are injured by Muslims angered over their evangelism.
• 2011.12.29 Egypt Assiut. At least five people are hurt when a Muslim mob burns Christian homes over a Facebook cartoon.
• 2011.11.30 Egypt Ghorayzat. Two Christian brothers are murdered in cold blood by a Muslim mob rampaging through Christian homes and businesses.
• 2011.11.17 Egypt Cairo. Islamic radicals violently attack a group of Copts, marching to a memorial for slain victims of another massacre.
• 2011.10.16 Egypt Mallawy. A Coptic high school student is beaten to death after refusing to take off his cross.
• 2011.10.09 Egypt Cairo. Military and Islamist gunmen massacre over two dozen Christians peacefully protesting a church burning. 27 killed. 327 injured.
• 2011.09.29 Egypt Tamia. A guard at a church is taken out by a Muslim drive-by.
• 2011.08.08 Egypt Minya. A Christian farmer has his throat slit in front of his son by a Muslim mob, who attack Christian homes and also severely beat a pastor.
• 2011.07.29 Egypt Minya. Two Christians are taken out by snipers while riding in a car.
• 2011.07.25 Egypt Samalout. A pregnant woman is among six Christians brutally assaulted with iron rods by a Muslim mob angered over a church bell.
• 2011.06.26 Egypt Awlad Khalaf. Three Christians are injured when a Muslim mob torches eight homes on a rumor that one was to become a church.
• 2011.05.19 Egypt Cairo. Three Catholics are severely injured by a rock-throwing Muslim mob intent on preventing a church from opening.
• 2011.05.15 Egypt Cairo. About fifty Christians are injured when a Muslim mob hurls rocks and homemade bombs into a peaceful protest.
• 2011.05.15 Egypt Cairo. Two Copts are gunned down in a Muslim drive-by attack.
• 2011.05.09 Egypt Cairo. A 60-year-old Catholic grandfather is beaten to death by enraged Muslims.
• 2011.05.08 Egypt Imbaba. Islamists break into a Catholic church and slit a member's throat.
• 2011.05.08 Egypt Imbaba. Salafists shoot the 16-year-old nephew of a Catholic bishop in the head.
• 2011.05.07 Egypt Cairo. Fundamentalists assault two churches with firebombs and gunfire, killing five Copt defenders and seven more in an ensuing rampage. 232 injured.
• 2011.04.18 Egypt Minya. One Copt is killed by Muslim rioters, who throw a grandmother out of a second story balcony while shouting praises to Allah. 11 injured.
• 2011.03.20 Egypt Qena. A Christian has his ear torn off by Muslims enforcing Sharia law.
• 2011.03.09 Egypt Cairo. Nine Copts, including a child, are killed and over a hundred more injured when a Muslim mob hurls firebombs and shoots into a group protesting a church burning.
• 2011.03.04 Egypt Sol. A Muslim mob, angry over a relationship between a Muslim girl and Christian boy, kills the two fathers and burns down a church.
• 2011.02.24 Egypt Wadi el-Natroun. Two monks are among nineteen injured when military forces storm a Coptic monastery with live ammunition.
• 2011.02.23 Egypt Assiut. A priest is brutally stabbed to death in his home by killers shouting 'Allah Akbar!'
• 2011.01.30 Egypt Sharona. Very young children are among eleven members of two Coptic families shot to death in their homes at point-blank range by Islamic radicals.
• 2011.01.11 Egypt Samalout. A policeman boards a train and opens fire on a group of elderly Christians while yelling 'Allah Akbar.' A 71-year-old victim dies on the scene.
• 2011.01.01 Egypt Alexandra. Twenty-three parishioners are incinerated by a Shahid suicide bomb attack on a New Year's Day church mass. 77 injured.
www.thereligionofpeace.com...
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Look, I don't know if the Egyptian crucifixions took place or not. Neither do you.
You're right. So why are we not addressing that issue first and foremost. That is the topic of the thread.
Is this really about truth...or is this about pushing an agenda so that weak-willed pansies get all scared because them scary Islamacists may come get them?
You know...I love it when you get a BLATANT admission from someone that they have absolutely no idea if the event they are so horrified about and worked up over EVER HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE...and yet for some continue to debate the point as though this alleged event is an absolute fact of record.edit on 21-8-2012 by milominderbinder because: formattingedit on 21-8-2012 by milominderbinder because: formatting
Originally posted by Nomadmonkey
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Look, I don't know if the Egyptian crucifixions took place or not. Neither do you.
You're right. So why are we not addressing that issue first and foremost. That is the topic of the thread.
Is this really about truth...or is this about pushing an agenda so that weak-willed pansies get all scared because them scary Islamacists may come get them?
You know...I love it when you get a BLATANT admission from someone that they have absolutely no idea if the event they are so horrified about and worked up over EVER HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE...and yet for some continue to debate the point as though this alleged event is an absolute fact of record.edit on 21-8-2012 by milominderbinder because: formattingedit on 21-8-2012 by milominderbinder because: formatting
So I take it this never really happened? These Islamaphobes are some of the most vile, lying trash I have seen. sharia law this, sharia law that, be scared and vote republican blah blah.