Why Palestinans are lucky to be under Israeli rule in the Middle East

Originally posted by CountDrac
reply to post by Sinny

 

Simple, the israelis are. They are a western country surrounded by primitive Islamic regimes and dictatorships with zero appreciation to the life of their own people yet alone others.

Woah, Woah, Woah!!

Back up a bit!

Who decided to make go there in the first place?!? Aha.

Now this is entertaining.

reply to post by CountDrac


Ive heard this arguement before and in my opinion its moot. so what if Israel is a little better than Syria or a lot better than Palastine. All religious based nations are violent and unethical...the USA being the biggest culprit of coarse.

I cant pick sides in this fight but i can tell you that Israel hates you if your not Jewish. they are pretending to like you so that you may help them slaughter their enemies but rest assured that if the only two religions lwft on earth were Jewish and christianity.... There would still be violence.

Jewish are not tollerant as they claim... No more than muslims. Just because they respect their women does not mean they respect YOUR women.

reply to post by intrepid


That’s an interesting link you found. How about the way the Iranian government treated their own people in the last uprising? Or did you forget that.

Enjoy the read it might enlighten you

www.guardian.co.uk...

reply to post by Sinny


Again I’m comparing their treatment to the Middle East and the reality in that part of the world. You are comparing it to the western world which its not.

Originally posted by Sinny
Its blatant human rights abuse, left to go unchecked with the aid of our governments, so yea, its a big deal to us, because we're partly to blame.

"Partly"? I'd say "fully". The funds we give to the Israeli regime is not only staggering, it's obscene. WE are funding this. And as far as a democratically elected government goes Israel isn't the only one in the ME. See Turkey.

Originally posted by CountDrac
reply to post by Sinny

 

Again I’m comparing their treatment to the Middle East and the reality in that part of the world. You are comparing it to the western world which its not.

Just imagine how better off they'd be if their country hadn't been taken over and occupied illegally.

Originally posted by CountDrac
reply to post by intrepid

 

That’s an interesting link you found. How about the way the Iranian government treated their own people in the last uprising? Or did you forget that.

Enjoy the read it might enlighten you

www.guardian.co.uk...

How about how the American Government is treating its own "Domestic Terrorists", "Political Dissidents", "Activists" and Veterans...

There's no need to be making comparisons, we should be judging on morals and ethics.

Hey..its not what you think, its all fun and war games for all of us ..is it not..!

reply to post by intrepid


Yea, I was gonna add that, but I didn't because I'm lazy lol.

ETA: Why does Dracula keep insisting were comparing it to the west?.. I think we know our own minds!

From July 15, 2012

UN agencies say Israel treatment of Palestinian kids against intl. law

www.presstv.ir...

From 9/9/11

Israel's treatment of Palestinians to dominate UN racism conference

electronicintifada.net...

Apparently the rest of the world that is not beholden to Israel thinks differently...

Hold on.

Are you saying that Palestinians don't deserve to be treated as well as we are in the West...because of how other nations treat them?

Are you stating that Israel isn't a 'western' first world nation?

If we agree that they are a first world nation ( cause they are ) then you don't believe that people living in the same land, deserve the same rights as others who live there?

~Tenth

reply to post by Sinny


Are you seriously going to compare the way the US treats opposition activists to the way Iranians treat theirs?
Iran, a fanatically religious run government with no separation of church and state.

Wow, your statement says it all. Ignorance is bliss…

Originally posted by CountDrac
reply to post by intrepid

 

That’s an interesting link you found.

I didn't "find" it. It's common knowledge. One that isn't blinded by propaganda has already seen it. Wonder why you haven't.

How about the way the Iranian government treated their own people in the last uprising? Or did you forget that.

Again, your point? Internal politics. NOT religious in nature in any way. Oh, wait. You're saying that anything a Muslim state does that isn't in line with western standards is worth noting as wrong, right? Oh, wait, Pt. 2. Why is Saudi Arabia an ally? They are the worst of the human rights abusers of it's own people.

reply to post by CountDrac

Iran, a fanatically religious run government with no separation of church and state.

Kind of like America has been becoming more and more like....

reply to post by CountDrac


Well at least in the Middle East the standard procedure is just to shoot somebody instead of illegally detaining them indefinitely and torturing them every 5 minutes!!

But still..Your missing the point!!

reply to post by tothetenthpower


I’m saying that the Palestinians are not a western society nor do they want to be. See how Hamas runs Gaza as an example. Family honor, killing opposition leaders. They want a religious government no different then Syria.

So Israel is trying to find a balance between the two. They have no choice. How can you live with someone who talks to God before logic?

Originally posted by CountDrac
reply to post by Sinny

 

Are you seriously going to compare the way the US treats opposition activists to the way Iranians treat theirs?
Iran, a fanatically religious run government with no separation of church and state.

Wow, your statement says it all. Ignorance is bliss…

Would you know if they did? US terrorism laws dont require the accused name to be made public nor would you be told even if they called em john/jane doe.

Your in the dark so you cant claim you handle it better

reply to post by FirstCasualty


Sorry Dude, I'm not in the Dark. I live in the US and i also lived in the Middle East. Spare me the lecture, i have seen both...

Well, Drac, I think you've disturbed a little nest of anti Israeli/pro palestinian termites here. I wouldn't bother even trying to argue with them because their minds are closed to anything that goes against what they believe in.

Each to their own and all that but it ain't worth it, mate.

Go tell the people that lived in the 250 villages that Israel has wiped out just how lucky they are to be living under Israels thumb.

Go tell that at the schools Israel drops white phosphorus on how lucky they are to be living under Israels thumb.