U.S. Women and the Princess syndrome

Come to the main cities of China, there's plenty of prinecesses here. Single children, spoilt rotten, centre of attention, get what they want.
There's a saying in China. It's called Little Prince and Princess Syndrome. Seriously girls here marry into rich families, don;t care if they are the second wife, as long as they get what they want.

As one of the few Americans on here lol, I can tell you about American women; it can be a hit or a miss sometimes. If you live outside of a major city you are gonna get a different type of woman, in a big east coast city its gonna be a different breed. You just have to know what you want and go for it.

I would make a vagina joke here but the women would ovary act. I think it has been always like this.The nice guy always becomes the friend that the girl always bitches about their A** hole boyfriend and then they wonder why there are no nice guys around. That guy was always there. The guy with tons of money with the face like the back end of a bus can get a girl that is a 10 which is a weird dynamic. Sometimes you feel like a donkey, always used to move things and a walking wallet.People fall into patterns and pick the same type of girl and get abused by them.I fell for one of those bad girls and I didnt know my a** from my elbow when I was with her.That woke me up to the wonderful world of the the big Bitch. People dont seem to learn and my brother is a prime example. I have watched grade 1,2 girls treat the boys bad and get ordered around by them. The boys just take it and I seen my daughter do it too. Women love to order men around too so maybe they are born with it lol. Guys grow a set and stand up for yourself and try not to take orders from them. It is a constant thing with my wife. I have a day off and she has a list for me to do. I do things that are not on the list or something I want to do. Guys never give their wives honey do lists there would be hell to pay right. Well over the years she has learned I will get it done when I want to get it done not when she wants it done. I am teaching my daughter to do things for herself.She asks for help like women usually do but I tell her how to do it herself and she is able to do it. She is 8 years old.....The is no way my daughter is going to be one of those princesses.

Women love the attention were as men do love it too but seem to get relegated to 2nd or 3rd place in that regard.Most men are invisible around women.Your cherished stuff is pushed to the garage.You barely get a closet. If you have the right woman this will happen to a minimum lol

BASSPLYR - I agree with everything you've said. As far as your friend being married to a narcissist, gotta be a living hell. If he bought her a Mansion she'd complain she doesn't have a bigger one. No matter what he does for her, it will never, ever be good enough. Narcissists get high off the sadness, pain, agony, frustration, etc. of others and they are highly addicted to this high. When they see others trying harder to please them, they keep raising the bar. It's also common for people in a relationship with these horrid people to become a co-dependent, which sadly, is like a long, drawn-out passive suicide. He'd probably be better off without her, especially since there's no cure and they do not change or improve with age. Threats do not work. It won't get better.

BTW, as you mentioned, narcissism and psychosis are two different things. Psychosis is a break with reality. A psychotic person has totally snapped and has had a complete break with reality -- very different from narcissism. Although narcissists live in a fantasy world, they have not actually had a break with reality.

intrptr - A narcissistic mother. Sorry. I'll bet no matter how hard you tried and no matter how well you did, and in spite of your accomplishments and achievements she made you feel --"Will I ever be good enough." That's what narcissistic mothers do. I'll check out the YT vid ... thanks - J

MegaSpace - I agree with you - you are so right. I agree, they do get their energy by controlling and dominating and it is an addiction. I also agree it's also spiritual issue without a doubt - that's a real good point. Since they all lack the ability to feel genuine empathy and sometimes they have to pretend by mimicking people who have genuine empathy and compassion, I think there is probably also something wrong with their brains hard-wiring (congenital birth defect, early brain damage, genetics) in addition to the spiritual component. Not 100% sure though. But, you also bring up a real good point about the upbringing and family environment as well.

In any case, they will do nothing to enhance or enrich our life ... nothing.

CELTICDOG

"The guy with tons of money with the face like the back end of a bus can get a girl that is a 10 which is a weird dynamic."

A 'weird dynamic'. Not really. Not if you take into consideration that they are gold-diggers. Not if you take into consideration they often marry for money ... not love or looks

I'm a magnet for these types of women. Young, good job and own my home. I am not surprised this topic has been brought up here. It's really really bad. I've even met some women that had a job only to conveniently lose it a month later. Then they need a place to stay because their roomate is a jerk.

Yes I fell for that once.

I've learned to deal with women the same way you walk on ice. Slowly. One little scare... you run back to shore. Pretty dumb metaphor but its 100% accurate in my experiences.

Oh well, if those women want to live that way, let them.. It makes it more funny when they get older, start getting wrinkles and then have to come to terms that they are past their used by date and really not that special at all.. As for the good ladies, I hope you stay young, replenished and happy for the rest of your lives

The majority of the women that suffer from this are suburban girls. If you want a down to earth dime, try dating women that are from the city.

I'm 28.

I blame the opiate-maintenance-medicine for my low T levels - it's a big self esteem thing going on.. I want off the Suboxone, I do. But - to keep it on topic.

Women seem to always want to "fix" or "help" me -

I haven't paid for dinner in months... or lunch...

Brittany paid for my medicine...
Christina drives me to and from work...
Heather is always bringing me dinner...
Connie just dropped me off cigarettes and paid my cellphone bill.

Sometimes we have sex, sometime's we don't.

Point is - all these comments about women not "spending" on men is a load of BS. I'm Gen. Y, right? An early 80s baby. Most popular pop song on the radio? "I've got an S on my chest 'cause I'm ready to save them" (talking about her saving guys)

I'm not proud of it... and my room is a mess, and I'm messy - But I'm extroverted. I'm a shy extrovert?

But, it seems, these women really go to bat for me and I appreciate them - as a friend - and they are awesome for doing it and I really, really, really think they are awesome people.

The only thing that really bothers me the most, despite their over obsession with frivolous judgments, judgments often used to justify negative emotional focus and projection, is the fact that the they think they actually have wisdom, or lack the clarity of mind to respect those that actually have some wisdom.

They mistake knowing what type of new Gucci line arrived, for knowing important life lessons or actual wisdom. At this point I just see it as a sad comedy

As a clarification, this is referring to the pop culture corrupted imbeciles of the U.S.

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Judging from your post, you are the type of person we are all talking about.

This princess attitude doesn't just apply to women. From what I read of your post, you certainly fit the princess model the OP is talking about.

Why buy lunches when someone will buy them for you? Why pay your cell phone bill if someone is willing to pay it for you.

I got bad news for you. You have something they want. Maybe its your stunning good looks or the fortune in your bank. People like other people for various reasons. Good company, good advice (as in role models) or sexual desire. There are many more.

Take the tiara off and pay your own cell phone bill. If you can't afford it, get rid of it.

A great man once told me, in every relationship there is a gardener and a flower. You are the flower.

Originally posted by dominicus

The Princess syndrome is this whole persona that many women take on where they feel they should be treated like royalty, that they are in some kind of reality TV show, that they deserve the utmost attention, an entire paycheck spent on them, and only date the proverbial steroid jacked shallow douche-bags that we see on shows like Jersey shore.

i think it's the gov & media industry hand in hand intentionally broadcasting this as "bait" for anyone who would naturally be like that spiritually...
ie: people who are of that kin watch and think it's OK to be like that in normal life.. short tempered, impatient, greedy... if Snookie is like that and she's all "pretty" in gucci then I can be like that.. or I don't have to "strive" to not be like that... it's bait for them to fall more easily into that spiritually void or negative category...

....and a simultaneously it's a challenge / warning for those who wouldn't be like that ...something to not be like spiritually.. or be as far away from that as possible... like.. showing you how "not" to be...

i mean these people we see on these shows are the most shallow and violent, uneducated, petty, intellectually void, entities I've ever witnessed to exist..... not to mention they're at the emotional development level of a 3rd grader.

and what a coincidence it's all being pushed so hard at this moment in our history during what is most likely going to be a global social collapse....so just imagine how these women are going to experience for themselves life during and after the SHTF scenario... NOT a pretty picture... their material world torn to shreds and burnt in front of their eyes.. then what will they have to live for? ... i can't think of anything...

more humble people however.. that value different things... I think will still be able to hold onto themselves .. for better or worse.. to a certain extent..

talk about something that will separate the wheat from the chaff...

I wonder a lot about the psychology of women, it absolutely baffles me.

This is a forum devoted largely to political and scientific thought, two fields that are male majority. Of course, there is also the spiritual element of ATS, which seems to be a more balanced field. But still, when it comes to outspoken ideas regarding God it seems to mostly come from men.

Men seem to have a higher tendency to engage in debate.

I wonder if all of these things are the result of environmental factors or inherent difference?

With regard to the "princess syndrome," I think false egos run wild equally. It is more noticeable in the ladies because of the expectation for them to be passive.

I'm 21, and lately I've been thinking about how I would love to have a relationship with a woman in her late 20's. A strong and brilliant woman with experience beyond my own. That is a challenge that I fear is beyond me at this point...

A great man once told me, in every relationship there is a gardener and a flower. You are the flower.

And then there is the hoe leaning on the wall, I don't know who's who but I just had to say it

I'm a 22 year old girl. I grew up in the suburbs watching Disney and playing princess. Do I expect some guy to sweep me off my feet and we live happily ever after? Hell no. My parents taught me better than that. They let me be a kid and enjoy those fantasies while also communicating how unrealistic those expectations were. I also learned really quickly not to say "I want" when I saw something I liked. It never took more than a second for my mom to slap me upside the head and say "No, you would like."

I won't lie, I see a lot of the "me" attitude and I'm frustrated by it as well, but don't sit there and accuse girls of only doing it. I see just as many guys guilty of the same sense of entitlement. Like many have said before, reality TV and the popularization of tantrum-throwing celebrities seems to be a huge culprit. But I don't think that this behavior is something new, but the widespread access to it is. Within the past ten years reality TV has exploded, and our materialistic society has gained a view that these attitudes are acceptable because everyone else is doing it. Its keeping up with the Joneses, but on a national scale inflated by 24/7 access to all types of "entertainment."

My personal advice to all of the guys that hate the "Princess" girls? Either don't tolerate it, or look for your girl somewhere else. My advice to the girls that hate the "Prince" guys? Its the same. There's too many people in this world for you to have to be unhappy with those around you. Go out and meet new people that more conform to your personal beliefs and desires. Eventually, all of the "Princes" and "Princesses" will be left with each other, and hopefully their sense of entitlement will go with them.

I understand the point of calling it prince/princess syndrome but really, royalty have manners half of the time (at least publicly).
I don't actually believe anyone is royal, but that's beside the point.

I think it's just better to call it 'spoiled brat syndrome'.

And judging by the comments some have made, this isn't just in America. This is all societies globally apparently.

I guess it's just human nature combined with extremely deceptive and manipulative media propaganda.

Yeah... and just imagine what they'll do to their children when they have them, and their husbands until the divorce.

I often wonder what the current crop of grossly overweight princesses without Class think that produces such haughtiness? If the past few generations demonstrate anything it's that raising children and holding their families together are beyond their ability.

Believe me guys, these girls won't look so good, or so desirable, in a few years with a couple of kids and as many ex-husbands under their ever expanding belt. Go to Walmart to see their future, and yours too unless you follow the advice many father's now give to their sons:

"survive your 20's with a vasectomy and have it repaired in the 30's and save yourself the inevitable grief and years of child support and alimony to a woman you detest (18 years)."

It's their meal ticket and the cross you'll bear. Be careful and take the advice... or regret it.

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I think it's just that the females are just starting to catch up to the male's levels of expectations. But where the difference lays is that you would see a male spend his entire paycheck on the female to try to make her happy, but I've never personally witnessed it the other way around. Ever.

If you do, then hold on to her and lever let go lol.

Originally posted by dominicus
I just wanted to bring to attention that I have been noticing an increase of the egotistical "Princess Syndrome" in American Women.

The Princess syndrome is this whole persona that many women take on where they feel they should be treated like royalty, that they are in some kind of reality TV show, that they deserve the utmost attention, an entire paycheck spent on them, and only date the proverbial steroid jacked shallow douche-bags that we see on shows like Jersey shore.

I think it's a combo of the "American Dream" being instilled in them since birth coupled with all of these realty tv shows where the most abrasive and egotistical girl, becomes the most famous and most popular. It's literally polluted women's characters.

My own sister suffers from this syndrome and I tell her BF I feel sorry for him all the time. All my friends and co-workers I talk to all say the same thing, that we are literally drowning in an over abundance of women suffering from this syndrome.

I've actually considered a mail order bride from a country where they come from nothing, which means there is still a possibility they may appreciate what they have here and stay humble. Even that though, can end up with the girl becoming completely polluted by our Princess culture.

In all truth and honesty, it appears to me that you are allowing yourself to become "victimized". I have grown up in American culture my whole life and I have never had a problem attracting naturally beautiful and real down to earth women. No intention to put you down, here, but maybe you should look at yourself, and see what it is about yourself that's attracting a particular kind of women.

Like attracts like. If you are resonating a beautiful and loving frequency, then you will attract a women that is on your level. There are never any shortage of quality women out there, only men who lack the ability to meet and appreciate them.

It could be that I have spent my life around "hippie" girls, but there are always girls out there who are looking past the culturally expected norms. Who just have to know where to look for them. Yoga studios, Hot Springs, Rainbow gatherings, Grateful Dead shows, Phish shows, Festivals, music gatherings, Burning Man etc.
Just go where the consciousness is, and you will always find love out there. But first you must love yourself, and get it together to be able to resonate in a higher frequency and learn to attract those frequencies to yourself.

Maybe your just looking in the wrong place. Once in a while you can get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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Just imagine what they'll do to their children, you say. Ever heard of Casey Anthony? Enough said...