To the abductees

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
i have met non human intelligences. They are different. Thats all that needs to be ever said.

edit on 17-8-2012 by AthlonSavage because: cause there are more interesting things in life to aliens.

"they"......there are far more than what you have met...

reply to post by kauskau


"they" don't talk about where they're from. "they" don't discuss the reasons they're preforming these experiments. "they" are VERY secretive. i have watched some of your videos but i find zero merit in anything i've heard. i honestly had forgotten this had anything at all to do with abductees, it comes across more as a recruitment drive for the cult of bashar. i'd say it was insulting if it wasn't so much of a joke.

reply to post by kauskau


Its like this and its really as simple as this. If you have something that interests a non human intelliegnce they will find you. That is if they find that something interest enough over whatever else is consuming their attention and time. Talking about aliens as if you think you know them, or hoping they will visit you cause you think it has a cosmic purpose doesnt mean woot to them. They dont care about your or Ats the internet or facebook. Thats the way it is.

reply to post by notkmarx


as i said at the beginning: i did not want the sceptics to overload this thread..but when they do i will not be quiet.

People who claim to be getting abducted more than once are liars, & people are claim to have been abducted are most likely liars, or have had some sort of crazy experience that led them believe they had been taken. Not that I rule out no one has been abducted before however.

Just a quick note on Bashar and the people who say he's a total fraud...

Though I find it very hard to believe that Bashar is channeling aliens, I have to say that even if he isn't, he still has a very positive message if you've listened to his speeches. If you remove the fact he thinks an alien is talking thru him and listen to him as, let's say, a motivational speaker, he really is quite good. Sure, not everything he says is gold, but motivational speakers charge to let you hear their message, and if the content is good, then you get what you expected to pay for.

I like his messages too. I saw a portal to greys, but sense no bad energy. I don't agree with everything he says, but so much of it I do, and the differences, well, they're such that you could take them one way, or another, and the ones where I have some problems relate to multiple earth realms and frequencies, switching timelines so to speak constantly. I was taken into another realm of space and time, in earth, and what is here disappears. Its is a complete shift over. It is not this one.

This important because I'll be into one of his videos and 100% sensing the postiive good message. Where even if he was only channeling his own soul's knowledge, for any who have paid money, an online psychic chat can cost you more, or 1 visit to a counselor or regressionist. And most Life Coaches charge more, and he is good. This thread got me into watching maybe more than a dozen last night.

But when someone spoke up about the conspiracies and fema. He said something that I don't agree with, relating to choosing your earth. Ie. You don't have to be on the same earth as the others who might experience these bad things.

But he didn't mean, that you were in a different earth, everyone in the room was still sharing earth.

He's wrong. And its a really important difference as it seems to be more about keeping people in bubbles while bad things happen to others????

So, where he got that, not too sure. If from military, or if from the greys, not sure.

But in reality, the other realm I was in, was beautiufl and natural, and the freeway, the roads, the farmhouses, all vanished. It was a different UV channel/realm/space time, and you couldn't see anyone from this realm in it.

Here, we are to Have Compassion and speak up against all injustices and help one another.

Because otherwise the realms we are going to be inheriting as our next step, won't be the freedom ones we wish for. If you are apathetic and think all is well because YOU are safe and higher frequency, but others are not, then you have not cared, you were selfish, and apathetic.

Truthfully, your soul which is infiinite has already learnt all those higher things, you are not here to become a god, or some of the strange things people think. You learnt some things in school, then entered into a simulated reality practicum, without memory, and it has to do with polishing up some muddy spots on your soul orb, so basically, becoming a Gift For Others, Selfless, Shine Your Light. There are many ways, we all have different responsibilities, and of course first come familiy and loved ones and friends, and as the aiblities progress outwards, to the community, etc.

But that part, marred a perfectly wonderful evening, where most of what he says is akin to some excellent life coaching. But, I remember home, and we're not short soul skills there, and we're here to grow our awarness, and abilities to manage what we have and to still help. Not follow bad orders, not be apathetic to the suffering of others.

Those other realms don't exist like he described, they're real ones, and everything else disappears Yes, Hotel Earth has 7 billion private rooms for humans. But....we're sharing this and its about others.

reply to post by SpaceCowboy78


true.I see Bashar as a really a preist in a church giving a sermon. No one bashes priests on line giving sermons. And most preists send collection boxes around for money. So not much difference, people should believe what ever they want and makes them happy on condition it doesnt lead to negative social consequences.

reply to post by SpaceCowboy78


true.I see Bashar as a really a preist in a church giving a sermon. No one bashes priests on line giving sermons. And most preists send collection boxes around for money. So not much difference, people should believe what ever they want and makes them happy on condition it doesnt lead to negative social consequences.

So some of it, not sure on. As his own conscioius overlay kicks in maybe. But this one, hmmm....its interesting.


Bashar Contact Specialist -Civilizations in Galaxy -Bernard Star.wmv


And I agree with this: I've experienced some of this myself.


Life is a Fairytale | Bashar

Now here is a better way of linking the idea of different earth type rooms and making a difference. Its the power of positive goals and consciousness. But then it turns into the wrong answer. NO, we don't want this representative system, we do want democracy and better models of it, yes not the current, though Norways is closer to real its still not the way it should be. It has to have councils of citizens and real input. Not sure but I think he slipped into the real characters politics there. We don't have the right system yet. And it is something more akin to proportional democracy but there are models that increase the parties and equality in elections and those limit seats and still are winner take all and that is a fake kind. And power to well educated, citizens who are inclusive of all, and give voices to the homeless and most vulnerable because only when a system operates from the well being of its bottom layer of abused, forsaken and struggling, from the bottom up, will it ever be a true system. PERIOD.


Bashar Placing New Systems & The Venus Project

Originally posted by Unity_99
So some of it, not sure on. As his own conscioius overlay kicks in maybe. But this one, hmmm....its interesting.

Bashar Contact Specialist -Civilizations in Galaxy -Bernard Star.wmv

If there has been one thing that I have learned from this phenomena if you are suggesting crop circles are alien considering that you put a picture with a crop circle on it (forgive me if it has nothing to do with the video) is that the aliens making crop circles are different than the ones I have come to study on.

Originally posted by therovers
I can channel Bashars thoughts to you free of charge if you so please.

Bashar said he is 'Willing and ready' and wants to 'Move forward from charging people to hear me, instead I am now free'.

Any requests? I can begin channeling as and when you please

edit on 15-8-2012 by therovers because: (no reason given)

Seriously? You can channel "Bashar"?

You are aware that this "Bashar", does not exist? With the excpetion of in the mind of the dude "channeling", and I guess you.

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


One of his videos, I was watching last night, "Bashar" said that he was the future life, or next step, of Darryl Anka, so he was actually channeling himself. Which is why I don't feel any associated negative energy from the channeling. And, well that does change things enormously.

I think I brought up before the cost of a life coach.....


Bashar Talks About His World.wmv

Starting at about 5 15.

Someone explain to me how Bashar understands English?

Exactly how many of the people who have paid him ultimately won the lottery? I'd bet a lottery's worth of money that it's zero. I divine that number via my unnatural powers of logic and reason.

Seems strange to me that people who have the key to psychically win the lottery never seem to do so.

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

One of his videos, I was watching last night, "Bashar" said that he was the future life, or next step, of Darryl Anka, so he was actually channeling himself. Which is why I don't feel any associated negative energy from the channeling. And, well that does change things enormously.

Actually, One's self is usualy "who" is being channeled. Thus the energies positive or negative are "usually" the channeler's. Of course, this isn't always the case.

reply to post by FlySolo


If he is not just making money, enjoying his own chosen way to help people, sharing his knowledge, and channeling himself just. Which is what I hinted at in my above post. Though still saw some greys behind him.
And his videos are good, enjoyed watching many of them and even arguing with a few of them, because a few of the elitist understandings are there as well. We are not here just to choose our next realm but to help others. That frequency match refers to an event that is either, our passing on, OR, what people refer to as the shift/ascension. But while here, its about other people, and our relationship to them and helping. The real goal of life, is to wake up and have faith in Love and Goodness and attempt to walk in Christ's footsteps, or Budda's, and with work on ourselves and also on finding how to help others, we also open our pineal and shine our light in. The true infinite light we have. We need to lose the apathy and fear that we can make a difference.

However, all ETs communicate with you, usually telepathically in your own language. If they were to unmask and speak to the world telepathically, download information to wake everyone up, say, it would be in your own language.

And that can happen 2 ways, as distinct message in words in your mind. And this would be accompanied with their energy signature, you could see and experience them. And it would be an interactive energy signature. Ie. the next day remembering it, you could see more than you initially saw and play around with bigger package.

But the second way would be you would feel them, their energy signature and be in contact, And receive ideas all at once, that you have to put into words.

I just know that some of what he says is right, and some of it may be a slight propaganda, but sense he really likes to help people too. Its just that there is more to life and our reason for being here than just that. And it requires more compassion towards others. But he does speak of integrity.

However for example, when someone was sharing their UFO sighting with him he did share that while they were "seeing this" they were also, at the same time, aboard the craft.

Now that implies to me a astral way of doing this. He's right the experience contains more than most remember.

Its just that it oft times is not astral, and you would have missing time and be checked over physically.

Most people don't know that if they really have seen a real UFO, or Extraterrestrial Craft then they have been taken aboard physically. Always.

Originally posted by kauskau

Originally posted by ZetaRediculian

Originally posted by kauskau
can´t you sense his love? his integrativeness? his genius? His flow? his intuitive way of saying complex things in a simple way? Cant you sense that a lie can not flow like this for more than 4 minutes?

your senses must be destroyed...

Is anyone here who is awaken and can sense his buddha nature?

Just reading what you posted here, the only thing I sense is that you have been duped. ah....did the buddah charge money to channel aliens? Seriously? From history, who else had a way with words? Hitler maybe? You do understand people get taken in all the time every day....but not you and this guy is for real?

YOu will not be able to show me ONE person in the whole world...that can answer to questions like bashar does...he never gets out of the flow and never "memorises"....his answers are always integrative and "wise"....and he never stumbles or is in stress..show me one person.. Only one..

hitler? are you kidding me. i will not even adress that.



you sceptics....tsss

Winnie the pooh

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by FlySolo

 

However, all ETs communicate with you, usually telepathically in your own language. If they were to unmask and speak to the world telepathically, download information to wake everyone up, say, it would be in your own language.

No one is hitting him with hard questions. You went to lengths to answer a simple question. If he is telepathically answering questions in your own language then two things come to mind instantly.

1. Why vocalize the question at all?
2. Ask the question vocally in another language IE: Japanese and have him answer in English. Should be simple yes?

I'm becoming obsessed with this guy and not for positive reasons. I'm determined to crack him open and expose him for what he is.

Been watching clips last night and here are some ridiculous answers to some Q&A.

Q. How do I quit smoking?
A. Pretend you are in another reality where you never smoked
it took about 10 minutes for him to get to that after circles and circles of talking

Q. Do we have free energy
A. Between 2015 and 2030 we will fully develop harnessing the earth's electromagnetic field.
Doesn't explain how to do this at all

Q. Explain homosexuality
A. Spirits are neither male nor female so they bounce between different sexes for the experience.
in other words, it's a conscious choice but makes no sense if the spirit is A-sexual

Q. How do we achieve total democracy when we think we have it but we don't?
A. It IS democracy but you don't want a democracy, you want a republic...think about it, think about it....
Q. No, I want a democracy
A No you don't! You want a republic!
Q. No, I want a democracy where the majority of people decide
A. No, i won't argue with you about what democracy is, you're only believing what you are told. Do your research, do your research!!
United states is a republic. And he never goes into whether he is referring to old style classical republic or modern.

Anyway, I don't want get too off topic with the Q&A because I will arm myself with more info later. Back to the English thing. Someone needs to pay the $$$ and go to one of his seminars and hit him hard with questions he can not answer. He only rolls majestically because he is holding the conch and dominates the entire session




ETA: Darn! I can't make a thread in the hoax forum but here you go.

"Bashar" has spoken on a wide variety of subjects to thousands of people in more than 15 cities throughout the United States, as well as in Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, England, Egypt and Greece.

I was not surprised that he limits his seminars to English speaking countries. However, i was surprised to see he was in Tokyo, once. But alas, he has a Japanese translator which makes the below clip 3 hours long! Now I don't expect anyone to listen to 3 hours of gibberish but my point is clearly made. TELEPATHIC MY ASS!