Why do you believe in God?

reply to post by borntowatch


ok... but U did not tell me how old Your religion is. and i have one more question... how long is human kind around? did Your religion have answer for it?
we know a lot about DNA today, there is a way how to track the age of any DNA... google it. and do U have knowledge about junk DNA of human kind?

I think you have to ask the question a different way.

The real question is "If there is a God, does God believe in you and why?

In other words "what purpose do we serve in the eyes of a supreme being?

What is our purpose?

What is the goal of our existence?

In the last few years I too began questioning things to determine what I believed and why. For the record I was raised Catholic. What I found was that I along with most people have the beliefs I do because they were choices of my parents not of myself. As I embarked on a journey to find out what I believed in I found that Christianity, Islam and Judaism ALL come from the same texts attributed to the writings of Moses but that those writings are likely just a loose collection of poems, songs, history and folk tales that had been recorded in written rather than verbal form for the the first time in history. Imagine that you were around when man first began writing things down that could be preseved for another generation. This would seem like the technological advancement of the millenia and would be considered "Sacred". I could write volumes here based on the research I've done but in short I came to view Hinduism as the religion most closely aligned with my beliefs that a supreme being exists and one has to acheive a certain level of consciousness and awareness to interact with it - in life or in death.

The first step on this journey is to be able to honestly filter out all the influences that affect how you think to get down to the truth of what you know.
- You have to be self aware enough to admit to yourself when you are lying to yourself.
- You have to recognize when you are being influenced by ideas that are popular but not true
- You have to recognize when you are being influenced by people that are popular and that you may love but may be giving you bad information.

Only when you can do these three things are you ready to start discovering high levels of consciousness on your way to what you might call God.

reply to post by beanandginger

. . . a supreme being exists and one has to acheive a certain level of consciousness and awareness to interact with it . . .

People, is what God interacts with, so it seems that to understand what God is about, we should engage with the same sort off activity that God is.

reply to post by beanandginger


what purpose do we serve in the eyes of a supreme being? i do not serve, i am free... and all supreme beings can go where sun dont shine... cos they never help anyone. prove me wrong

reply to post by U4ea82


DNA has shot the scientific theory of spontanious life from amino acids in the foot . DNA does not occur randomly under any circumstance or over any length of time . There fore the biblical explanation of Gods creation is our only explanation . Deep space is sterile as was the earth at it's formation .The idea that life came from a single cell that assimilated it's self on a rock somewhere in a lightning storm is absurb . Every living thing has DNA information inside a living cell .Niether of these occurs randomly.

Well, i my self am a theistic satanist, but im not blinded by religion at the same time.

I would say that if there was a god out there that was so called the creator and gave everyone hope, then why do people have to strictly follow its rule and not question the rule of that deity? If they question it or disobey (sin), they are threatened eternal suffrage (hell). So going by its rule and never questioning the deity because you fear suffrage, is no way of living. Im not here to create a religious debate/argument, but my point is, live life the way you want to live it.

If you limit yourself because something out there tells you to do it or else, you arent living life. In the end, we have wars going back and forth, people discriminating and hating each other. All that "God" has done for this world is death and hatred. My answer for you is to just believe in yourself. Believe what you want. Just know that out there is a word of unlimited possibilities.

Believing in science can be very helpful. It may help you understand what go's on everyday. If you become closed saying that "God" created everything (like rain for example), there is no real knowledge there. You will be lost and confused due to little knowledge.

Dont listen to what your heart or head tells you all the time. Take both opinions and look at both sides. What are the consequences, what will this lead me too?

Just know that we are in a planet the size of bacteria compared to the whole world. The wolrd has endless possibilities.

Originally posted by ZakOlongapo
reply to post by mideast

 

sounds like U have no clue how universe, galaxy, solar system, earth and life forms here do works...

its ok U are not the only one. there is majority of the people like U. how old is Your religion?

Sounds like you are a human caught up in a duality view of thinking that is the religion called science that have no clue yeet really on what reality really is. Jesus, Buddha and Einstein all knew more than their brothers and sisters and there is a reason they understood more. That kind of understanding is a gift and is evolved into you.

Maybe you should take some time and figure out how synchronicity and chakras work. But if you wanna play around being something lesser than you could be then why should we care. If you do not wanna evolve now then that is you choice.

reply to post by apushforenlightment


we are THE "ONE", play with me i actually do agree with U...
Jesus, Buddha and Einstein all knew more than their brothers and sisters ... they may be know more but not everything, cos they are just 3 people. like U and me

Originally posted by ZakOlongapo
reply to post by apushforenlightment

 

we are THE "ONE", play with me

i actually do agree with U...
Jesus, Buddha and Einstein all knew more than their brothers and sisters ... they may be know more but not everything, cos they are just 3 people. like U and me

Lol I did not expect that answer and it is nice being suprised. Fortunaly I do not know everything. In some ways I know more things than I am comfortable with.

reply to post by apushforenlightment


i feel the same way

Originally posted by ZakOlongapo
reply to post by beanandginger

 

what purpose do we serve in the eyes of a supreme being? i do not serve, i am free... and all supreme beings can go where sun dont shine... cos they never help anyone. prove me wrong

edit on 11-8-2012 by ZakOlongapo because: (no reason given)

Dear beanandginger,

What purpose does my toenail serve? It does serve a purpose; but, it is only a part of me. If you are part of the universe then rather than looking at yourself in isolation, ask yourself what purpose the universe serves. You are not free of the universe, you do interact and live within it. You choose how you contribute or to be a taker that does not contribute in a positive way, that is freedom of will.

You state that supreme beings don't help you, what help are you looking for? Would that help negate your free will or merely be catering to your every wish? What help do you do for the world? You are a self aware being, what are you doing with it other than complaining that you didn't get your cookie?

A friend of mine was a missionary in central and south America, I do not remember the country; but, he had spoke before a hundred thousand people and a taxi driver that had been to the event picked him up to take him to his hotel. The taxi driver asked him if he wanted to see something that would change his life. The driver took him to a mountain, it had tens of thousands of people living on it in cardboard boxes, absolute poverty. If you say that you have it horrible because you don't have it easy, you should understand what hard is. My friend stood there for twenty minutes and cried, westerners spend more time than that crying that they don't have the newest IPad. How much of your life is dedicated to helping others?

Originally posted by U4ea82
I've reached a point in my life where I've begun to question things, specifically, God and the nature of faith. I believe in a creator, though I'm not really sure who he (or she) is. I have a hard time looking at the world around me and attributing it's beauty to a mere cosmic accident. However, I don't feel like I have any personal experience with God, no grand epiphany that made me KNOW that he existed. I've just always felt it in my heart.

Which leads me to my question : Why do you believe in God? Do you believe in God in the traditional sense, or do you have a differing vision of him or her?


Now please remember, I'm asking those who DO believe in God. If you don't believe, that's a perfectly valid opinion to which you are certainly entitled but, please, don't derail the thread trying to convince those who do believe that there is no God. Please be respectful of others and their faith.

If you felt Him in your heart, then you have personal experience.

reply to post by AQuestion


not sure if U are answering "beanandginger" or U talk after what i say...

reply to post by ZakOlongapo


Dear ZakOlongapo,

I am not sure either, the quoted sections sometime confuse me. If you wish to respond to what I wrote regardless of which of you it was in response to, it was in response to the statement I quoted. Peace.

reply to post by AQuestion


ok then...
U did say:
You state that supreme beings don't help you...

i did not say that, i say:
they never help anyone. prove me wrong...

than U ask me this:
what help are you looking for?

my answer is, i am not looking for help... i am doing just fine no god or something like that needed in my life. i did live on 3 different continents last 15 years, live with people of almost all religions... and now i feel that i know what is believe about.... 100% sure is not about god...

reply to post by ZakOlongapo


Dear ZakOlongapo,

my answer is, i am not looking for help... i am doing just fine no god or something like that needed in my life. i did live on 3 different continents last 15 years, live with people of almost all religions... and now i feel that i know what is believe about.... 100% sure is not about god...

I don't get it, you are not looking for help; but, are upset that whatever God there may be does not help you or anyone. What are you expecting of the god you mention? What if the gnostics are right, God created us and then left us to our own devices? I am not a gnostic; but, if they were right then you got your life, you have the opportunity to define yourself as you will, is that not a good thing? What if God created you so that you could choose to not need him, you could choose to be alone and be your own god or you could choose to interact with others who don't need you either; but, chose to interact with you? What do you think you are entitled to and that you are being denied?

Originally posted by U4ea82
That's exactly how I feel. Always questioning things...expanding on what I believe. I wasn't raised in a home that really discussed religion or God.

You're supposed to explore ... question things ... that is how a child learns. By bumping into things ... your elders can teach you how to make wool, how to cook, make shoes, etc. But you're not supposed to do it, exactly as they did it, you're supposed to take their teaching further and develope better shoes. Better cloathes, and healthier food.

And how can you ever hope, to be able to take their teachings further, if you do not question its basic foundation.

Sometimes, you fix the roof ... other times, you replace it. Sometimes, you patch the window, sometimes you replace it. Sometimes you fix the wall, other times ... you replace the house. Sometimes, a tornado tears up your house and you rebuild it, other times ... you move your ome to a different location.

You're not supposed to take anything ... on faith.

reply to post by U4ea82


I wish more people would ask this question my lady. Hoo rah ! and haray ! for you. You ask the perfect question and your plight was once mine until I figured out this much. Being like you. I just had to attribute this existence to much more than blind randomnation ( not a word, but you get my meaning ).

I believe in the Christian faith and simply follow Christ thru my own interpretation of the Bible and the words of Christ as I interpret them to mean to me. And it makes up a belief that answers all of the questions I've ever come up with in this manner.

By doing so, I've even come to the conclusion that it is called The Living Bible for a reason. The Book is pure truth and the truth lives forever it never dies. Also surely a God capable of so much is capable of communication.
So you being where I was so long ago must carry a responsibility to what you have figured out so far right ? At that same point where you are. I looked for that communication and found nothing matched The Living Bible.

That's my story but I suggest that must be your next step. Look for that communicado unbiased as I did. Let me know where you end up ?

Any questions about that you can pm me anytime.

I truly hope you find the path you're meant to travel as you have shown a noble heart.

Randyvious
SnF

Originally posted by U4ea82

Which leads me to my question : Why do you believe in God? Do you believe in God in the traditional sense, or do you have a differing vision of him or her?

I find that there are many people online who think along the lines of Roscrucians or Luciferians. I believe that the Luciferian way is the most prevalent religion that is socially acceptable, the eye is everywhere. More people should study the occult to see what they believe and figure what kind of an impact they have on society, they are BIG on symbolism and their symbols can be found anywhere. As for myself, this statement is interesting to me: "Go and sin no more."
I do not consider myself a Christian, I am not an atheist, the closest thing I come to would be to be what I was conditioned by society to be since childhood, to live by the law of "Do what thou wilt". I've had many supernatural experiences, and I do know that there is a God who answers prayer and resurrects the dead, but as I am now, it would not be truthful for me to make myself out to be a person worthy to escape the tribulation to come.

Because he believes in me!
To all the souls seeking clarity to our existence I promise the answer is in the amazing letter that was left for all of us. Make a goal of obtaining a King James version Bible and work your way through one book at a time.
If you would like a helping hand I would suggest the non denominational Shepherds Chapel Ministry. Arnold Murray is a 60 year Bible scholar that teaches chapter by chapter verse by verse. Our heavenly Father loves you so much and wants so much for you to seek him and return that love. You owe it to yourself!
God bless you all!