And the Plot Thickens. Is not joining Facebook a sign you're a psychopath?

well the reaction
after starting well
has moved from the sublime to the ridiculous


i find facebook an invaluable tool in my day to day life...
keeping track of who is playing what shows where
and who i'll meet there and who is buying the drinks
pestering my girlfriend while she is at work and cannot answer the phone
sharing art and ideas without having to drag my folio to the city on the bus
and of course, adding to my online collection of hilarious photos of drunk bands and friends

yes, privacy is an important personal concern
but i don't think it's either/or, you know? you aren't either Anti-Facebook VIgilante Awesome Man or Supersheep... this extreme negative reaction is exactly the same as the people saying you're a psycho if you don't have it. to my mind every single one of us is probably a psycho anyway
the cia, the fbi, and the kfc are all almost certainly quietly collating away every bit of data
but changing the way i live my life based on a possibility [however likely] kind of feels MORE like capitulation.

people seem to forget that all this world-devastating DATA that is being collected on you is just numbers, maaan
they can't interfere with your daily life
can't stop you going anywhere or doing anything or saying whatever the flip you want to say
and if that ever changes i have a sneaking suspicion having or not having a facebook won't mean squat, cus by then we'll aaaall be in the cattle cars.
apologies for the rant, but i was a little surprised to see such a blanket overwhelmingly negative response, even here.

ha, facebook dont have any real details for me, i use my online name, my d.o.b is wrong, home town and current location are opposite ends of the world,the email address i used to sign up was a temporary guerilla mail address and iv got browser add-ons to stop them following my tracks across the web,
.


eat it zuckerberg!

reply to post by ColoradoJens


What total BS I started a facebook page a few years back only because a friend contacted me because he had one and the only way to see his was to be on facebook.

Well I took one look at some of the things people posted on their pages AND couldn't stop I mean I dont really want to know you just took your dog out for a S*&%

What do I have on my facebook page nothing never used it and never will, oh I dont tweet either.

Do I have the urge to kill anyone NO do I have the URGE to laugh at everyone of these experts YES, so I will

What a joke! So I'm probably the next mass murderer because I don't use facebook? I knew there was a reason I hated that site and these types of reports from the MSM just made it crystal clear why.

Good thread CJ.

reply to post by jayman0111


War and Peace? What are you, some sort of literate person? We can't have that....

Never could get into it for some odd reason. I loved Crime and Punishment, but War and Peace just wasn't for me.

Originally posted by decepticonLaura
they can't interfere with your daily life
can't stop you going anywhere or doing anything or saying whatever the flip you want to say
and if that ever changes i have a sneaking suspicion having or not having a facebook won't mean squat, cus by then we'll aaaall be in the cattle cars.

I have to agree. The problem is not Facebook itself, it's not the advertisements, nor the privacy issues.
People themselves decide what status updates to post, what information they want to share and whether or not to get affected by the ads.

It's the users who decide how much Facebook should be integrated into their lives. I don't believe that Facebook is the problem, peoples seach for self-affirmation is.

In the end, Facebook's spying only has as much effect over your daily life as you let it.
Ignore the ads, laugh at the attempts to spy on your browsing (have some self-irony), don't allow any apps and don't post anything you won't tell a stranger.

reply to post by ColoradoJens


This isn't a surprise. They can monitor and control Facebook, and thus have a free and easy source for every detail of the lives of a lot of people. So, those that don't join are harder to watch, and thus must be labeled as "off" in some way, demonized for not being good little sheep.

The really sad thing is that so many people think those opinions you posted are right. They think privacy is somehow "bad", and don't even understand how messed up the entire business really is!

I have a FB account, but I rarely use it. If I do, it's normally for political chat, not personal stuff. Still, I know a LOT of people that post every single detail of their daily lives on there. What they cook, when they clean, even when they shop, work, etc. It's nuts, but they do it. Alright, time to read the comments from other members now. My guess is most will agree that such sites are overrated, overused, and underestimated as a danger.

Originally posted by ga-`tv-gi

Is not joining Facebook a sign you're a psychopath?

So I geuss that makes me and others that had a Face-borg and opted to not participate anymore the anti-christ.
Face-borg is a evil thing IMHO.

edit on 6-8-2012 by ga-`tv-gi because: (no reason given)

"Face-borg"........LOVE IT!

Do you have objections to that being borrowed? Best description I have seen in ages!

i guess im a psycho because i dont want to read what people had for dinner or see pictures of their dogs and cats

that makes complete sense

Im sorry to say i once had a facebook page a few months ago, in my defense i was using it to try and slowly wake people up with a little intrigue every day just to get people curious enough to do a little research themselves...... how misguided i was.......

I might even reactivate it just so i can put a link to this thread and see what kind of reaction i get,Probably the usual response, the problem is people see any negative comments towards facebook as a personal attack on them and instantly begin to spew the pre programmed verbal diarrhea all over their keyboard in an attempt to justify it or demonize me. "oh look theirs that conspiracy nut at it again" "whens the mother ship coming for you blah blah blah " Makes me fuc***g sick to my teeth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Facebook can lick my betty swallocks !!!!!

Originally posted by bitsforbytes
reply to post by Expat888

 

And what is it you suggest we do? What is fair to you? What are the choices that history has taught us? What do you have to offer if what I said is not just?

I am going to hazard a guess (no need to confirm or deny it) that you are fairly young. I have seen this before; an inability by many young people to understand what the world was like before everyone was online all the time. Before there really was any internet. The world got along just fine (better in a lot of ways), and people managed to have relationships, learn things, communicate, and so forth. New and more technical isn't necessarily good, or better.

Think about this. What if the United States had been founded under modern conditions? Instead of a beautiful document, preserved for posterity, we might have a Constitution written entirely digitally. No paper, and susceptible to editing at the whim of any decent hacker. Instead of old letters from one historical figure to another, we would have online blogs. Really, we probably would not have a country, because so many people would be debating everything online that nothing would get done.

Society doesn't need social networking sites.

Originally posted by Cloudless

Originally posted by decepticonLaura
they can't interfere with your daily life
can't stop you going anywhere or doing anything or saying whatever the flip you want to say
and if that ever changes i have a sneaking suspicion having or not having a facebook won't mean squat, cus by then we'll aaaall be in the cattle cars.

I have to agree. The problem is not Facebook itself, it's not the advertisements, nor the privacy issues.
People themselves decide what status updates to post, what information they want to share and whether or not to get affected by the ads.

It's the users who decide how much Facebook should be integrated into their lives. I don't believe that Facebook is the problem, peoples seach for self-affirmation is.

In the end, Facebook's spying only has as much effect over your daily life as you let it.
Ignore the ads, laugh at the attempts to spy on your browsing (have some self-irony), don't allow any apps and don't post anything you won't tell a stranger.

That would be fine if people unlike ats members knew what was going on in the world but they dont.

So the knowing people like us should make a noise about it, try to help those unaware however futile it may seem.

Fight those who seek to underhandedly take control through the flaws of the human psyche..... or am i not making any sense to you or are really going to stand by what you just said

Whats your motive here buddy, in what way do hijacked social networking sites bring anything good into society.

Im going to delete my account tonight Im fed up with it now !

originally it was cool to speak to my cousins in canada or friends that have immigrated to australia
but now its just a pain in the ass

people actually rely on faceboook now
im sure there is facebook withdrawal symptoms !

reply to post by James1982


Good post.
I don't have Facebook but had a MySpace and it was like that.
Glad to be rid of it.

I was recently at two family functions and some of my relatives actually frowned at me because they can't communicate with me without Facebook. Can't they just pick up a phone to talk? Or let's get together.
It's like you're abnormal if you don't have it.

I don't want Facebook for the very reasons you outlined.
It's too annoying.
I dont want play by play reports on what they just did, as if anybody actually cares , stupid profile pics all doing the same zoolander facial expressions.

What I really resent is I made the choice to stay out of Facebook but get put in it anyways by my family or friends talking about me or posting pics they took of me.

Same with twitter, another pathetic case of desperately seeking attention

reply to post by James1982


Good post.
I don't have Facebook but had a MySpace and it was like that.
Glad to be rid of it.

I was recently at two family functions and some of my relatives actually frowned at me because they can't communicate with me without Facebook. Can't they just pick up a phone to talk? Or let's get together.
It's like you're abnormal if you don't have it.

I don't want Facebook for the very reasons you outlined.
It's too annoying.
I dont want play by play reports on what they just did, as if anybody actually cares , stupid profile pics all doing the same zoolander facial expressions.

What I really resent is I made the choice to stay out of Facebook but get put in it anyways by my family or friends talking about me or posting pics they took of me.

Same with twitter, another pathetic case of desperately seeking attention

facebook is just a connection medium for web pages. Big deal. Its a minor amusement and overrated. Anyones who argues it more than that is the psycopath and needs serious psyco therapy.

Originally posted by decepticonLaura
well the reaction
after starting well
has moved from the sublime to the ridiculous

Snip

yes, privacy is an important personal concern
but i don't think it's either/or, you know?

Mark Zuckerberg apparently does. Believe me. This guy is not a privacy advocate by any stretch of the imagination. Does the term "Radical transparency" sound like a warm, fuzzy blanket to you? You may not think it's either/or but I assure you that the guy who runs that company does. And he hasn't made a secret out of what he believes and exactly how he feels about privacy. If you doubt me, do some digging on Google. You should at least know what you're talking about before you tell other people they're overreacting.

This guy is a jerk and having someone like that running a company that has so much influence and power in the lives of so many people is downright frightening.

Originally posted by Zecharia

Originally posted by Cloudless

Originally posted by decepticonLaura
they can't interfere with your daily life
can't stop you going anywhere or doing anything or saying whatever the flip you want to say
and if that ever changes i have a sneaking suspicion having or not having a facebook won't mean squat, cus by then we'll aaaall be in the cattle cars.

I have to agree. The problem is not Facebook itself, it's not the advertisements, nor the privacy issues.
People themselves decide what status updates to post, what information they want to share and whether or not to get affected by the ads.

It's the users who decide how much Facebook should be integrated into their lives. I don't believe that Facebook is the problem, peoples seach for self-affirmation is.

In the end, Facebook's spying only has as much effect over your daily life as you let it.
Ignore the ads, laugh at the attempts to spy on your browsing (have some self-irony), don't allow any apps and don't post anything you won't tell a stranger.

That would be fine if people unlike ats members knew what was going on in the world but they dont.

So the knowing people like us should make a noise about it, try to help those unaware however futile it may seem.

Fight those who seek to underhandedly take control through the flaws of the human psyche..... or am i not making any sense to you or are really going to stand by what you just said

Whats your motive here buddy, in what way do hijacked social networking sites bring anything good into society.

Can you please define "take control" ? How can Facebook or whatever agency behind the curtain take control of your life?
By collecting your browsing data? by spying and selling the data to advertisement companies so they can tailor the ads specifically to you? How is that in anyway taking control?
If people post where they are, where they work, whom they are with, every single family detail and click the ads then it's a common sense problem, not a Facebook problem. I cannot take responsibility for peoples lack of common sense..

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
facebook is just a connection medium for web pages. Big deal. Its a minor amusement and overrated. Anyones who argues it more than that is the psycopath and needs serious psyco therapy.

This!

Originally posted by Cloudless


Can you please define "take control" ? How can Facebook or whatever agency behind the curtain take control of your life?
By collecting your browsing data? by spying and selling the data to advertisement companies so they can tailor the ads specifically to you? How is that in anyway taking control?

Are you kidding? First of all, you see here that they are trying to blackmail people into signing up for the site by implying that anyone who isn't a Facebook member is "a suspicious person". Whether Facebook itself had anything to do with this creepy article is probably impossible to prove without a confession but the fact that we are here at this point alone speaks volumes. A web site is being used as peer pressure to try and force people to share private information with complete strangers.

Next. The data can eventually be sold to anyone who wants it. Not just advertising companies. Once it's there, there's no telling where it will end up or what it will be used for. This is no small thing. People who don't fully comprehend what they're giving up are getting royally screwed here. Technology is always on the move and you can only really guess how what you put on Facebook today could be abused 15 years from now when you've completely forgotten about it.

If people post where they are, where they work, whom they are with, every single family detail and click the ads then it's a common sense problem, not a Facebook problem. I cannot take responsibility for peoples lack of common sense..

This is what Facebook is designed for. It is purpose-made to invade your privacy. It may be common sense but we all know how common it is. Anyone who has any common sense wouldn't sign up with Facebook to start with. The CEO of Facebook has utter contempt for privacy. Who would want to deal with a company owned by a guy like that?