Scientology's "Hole" - alleged torture-camp for high-ranking execs who fell out of favor

reply to post by longlostbrother


Your totally right , I Live in The Netherlands and here the dutch scientology branch is very well known for making ppl give all there money to this cult , and to be totally indoctrinated by them , they also want you to break with your famillie and friends so that there will be no outsider to check on you , they will stalk you around , keep you under observation.

what they are doing is a pure brainwash campaign , to brainwash the new cult members into completely abandoning there "normal"life.
They destroy the old "you " to make you one of there scientology archetypes.

i sincerely say this as an honest person that this cult is indeed nothing more than a big scheme , the ppl in it should actually be protected from themselfs.
Actually there should be Law's that protects ppl from this kind of stuff , cause after a while i dont believe its free will anymore
I read somewhere that they have this boat where they reside on , any one knows the purpose of this ?? is this done so they dont have to obey laws of country's ?? because of the international waters ?

We dont need more cults who wants to differ themselves from the rest , we are in times of economic an social struggle , its in this darkest hour that we must work together.

Best wishes to Everyone on ATS

TheGreazel

If you HAVE to pay to learn what your "faith" teaches, then your faith is a corporation, not a religion.

If it wasnt for the paying part. I would say they were Jehovahs Witnesses.

At least cute Katie Holmes is A-Ok.

reply to post by Blackmarketeer


Dear Blackmarketeer,

S&F for bring this to light. I thoroughly enjoy this kind of reading material.

T

crazy things man... great post

reply to post by TheGreazel

is this done so they dont have to obey laws of country's ?? because of the international waters ?

Very likely.

Though I'm certainly no insider, nor do I have first hand knowledge, I've read that the conditions and treatment of some of the members of Sea Org is appalling.

From Understanding Scientology

The chain locker was a small compartment at the bow of the ship where the excess chain attached to the anchor was wound up and stored. It was a cold, dark wet area frequently inhabited by rats. It was into this compartment that people would be lowered as a form of "ethics," or punishment. It was a dangerous form of punishment, since at any moment the chain could be released, and the person in the chain locker, if not careful, could be caught in the outgoing chain. In several cases, children were put into the chain locker as punishment for misdeeds.

In one case Hubbard ordered a five year old deaf mute girl into the chain locker "to cure her deafness." In another case a four year old boy was kept in the chain locker for two weeks because he ate some telex tape. His mother was told that he was actually a very old thetan in a young body, and should not be given sympathy because of his young body.

Members of the Sea Org are also contracted to serving "one billion years" to the group, in exchange for free room and board, and a weekly allowance.

Originally posted by NYUKLES
At least cute Katie Holmes is A-Ok.

Because somebody who is A-OK would even get involved with Cruise or his cult in the first place?

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The whack jobs deserve it.. these guys are completely insane, and if it takes getting locked in an inhumane prison and forced to stand in a trash can for 12 hours to figure it out... so be it. No pity for them.

I totally agree.

These sick crazzy as#sholes are the proof that freedom can be used for very very evil things , religous freedom should not include this BS . THEY ARE SICK from the top down and whats worse is they have money and lawyers like cockroaches ..UGHHHHHHH NAIL THRU HEAD

Originally posted by jacktorrance
reply to post by TheGreazel

 

is this done so they dont have to obey laws of country's ?? because of the international waters ?

Very likely.

Though I'm certainly no insider, nor do I have first hand knowledge, I've read that the conditions and treatment of some of the members of Sea Org is appalling.

From Understanding Scientology

The chain locker was a small compartment at the bow of the ship where the excess chain attached to the anchor was wound up and stored. It was a cold, dark wet area frequently inhabited by rats. It was into this compartment that people would be lowered as a form of "ethics," or punishment. It was a dangerous form of punishment, since at any moment the chain could be released, and the person in the chain locker, if not careful, could be caught in the outgoing chain. In several cases, children were put into the chain locker as punishment for misdeeds.

In one case Hubbard ordered a five year old deaf mute girl into the chain locker "to cure her deafness." In another case a four year old boy was kept in the chain locker for two weeks because he ate some telex tape. His mother was told that he was actually a very old thetan in a young body, and should not be given sympathy because of his young body.

Members of the Sea Org are also contracted to serving "one billion years" to the group, in exchange for free room and board, and a weekly allowance.

No wonder they hide on open waters , any normal reasonable person would still lynch these child molesters this is beyond absurd , reading about this abuse makes my blood boil

Cheers anyway for follow up info , its good to shed some light on these "projects "these monsters are working on.
This particulair cult has nothing to do with being Free or freedom of speech , they are the victim of sellfish pshycopathic cult leaders.

TheGreazel

Sadly, South Park didn't need to make up a lot for this episode:

I have a feeling this is just garbage from some random blog or something. I would believe this could be true, but I won't believe it is true until corroborated by more reputable sources. So let me get this strait...They have a tunnel running under the road? Hmm, not unheard of, but why even put them in this office building? Why not take them to a compound out in the sticks? There are just too many parts that don't add up in my opinion.

Freedom of religion... more power for them. If someone is crazy enough to joining their "religion", he was a lost cause from the start

Any news on it? Has "the hole" been raided? Who is protecting them, that they expect to be able to get away with stuff like that? Dont say Cruise.

I've had some small dealing with a "cult". 25 years ago I did about 4 months work for the Hare Krishna movement as an outsider out in Australia. It was an eye opener, but not in the way I was expecting. I was on my guard the whole time, even half expecting them to drug the food that I ate at their temple. I was actually a little disappointed they didn't try to recruit me once. In fact, and couple of the older guys that had been in since the late sixties advised me against joining, saying it wasn't the same as "the early days" (whatever that meant). While I've never had any interest in joining anything, I've got to say they were surprisingly an okay bunch of people (from what I saw).

However, from what I've read about Scientology, it comes across as pure poison. David Miscavige is an out of control megalomaniac who takes great pleasure in the suffering of others. I'd love to see somebody ram a bus into "The Hole" and free the poor bastards in it, but I've got a horrible feeling they would refuse to leave.

A very revealing interview recently published June 2012

one of their really high ranking people, her first name is debbie went to court and testifiied to the horrific conditions of "the hole" she is not the only one.

horrible cult that will harass and sue the pants off anyone who stands up to them...they have the IRS in their pocket and who know what other high ups......

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They must be purified by pain and suffering!!!

Just kidding! That is extremely messed up. I really do not know much about scientology other than they are said to be strange. If this is true then all the flak they get is merited