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Scientology's "Hole" - alleged torture-camp for high-ranking execs who fell out of favor

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posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 05:55 PM
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Scientology's "Hole" - alleged torture-camp for high-ranking execs who fell out of favor


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August 2, 2012

The Village Voice has a haunting, well-sourced account of "The Hole," where upper echelon Scientologists who have fallen into bad odor with the group's leader are imprisoned under inhumane conditions and tortured.
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posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 05:55 PM
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Scientology is a dangerous cult. This "prison" should be the final proof of that for anyone questioning the legitimacy of this "faith".

From the Village Voice:

Scientology's Concentration Camp for Its Executives: The Prisoners, Past and Present


What seemed to generate the most comments, however, was Brousseau's involvement in the creation of Scientology's notorious office-prison for its top executives, variably known as "CMO Int," the "A to E Room," the "SP Hole," and simply "The Hole."

It was Brousseau who was ordered to put bars on the doors and locks on the windows to turn a set of offices at Scientology's International Base east of Los Angeles into a prison that housed out-of-favor church executives from 2004 to the present day.

But over that time, Brousseau tells us, the conditions of The Hole changed, and so did the roster of people kept inside. After the jump, what we know about the place, and a list of people who spent at least some time there.


The source article goes into detail who has been imprisoned there, the length of their imprisonment, and the nature of their "crime" against the Scientology "church". It also details the level of abuse/torture/sadism inflicted upon them.

It's high time David Miscavige is exposed. The level of wealth and brainwashing he has surrounded himself with can last only so long.

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posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 06:08 PM
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posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 06:20 PM
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So is this from a reputable news source or is it just a blog?



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 06:27 PM
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Well I've met a few scientologists in my day. (I live in LA) Without exception they were all completely brainwashed and of weak mental constitution to begin with.

I've never heard anything good about scientologists. They frankly creep me out when i walk down hollywood blvd and they are out there trying to recruit people.

Once in HS. I had a friend whos family was a scientologist. We joked about it with him. He swore he wasn't really a scientologist and that it was only his family. Then a minute later he popped the trunk of his car to grab something. We looked in and it was literally filled to the brim with scientology books.

Personally I see nothing wrong with the govt cracking these freaks heads in in the worst way. We need to do a Waco to these scientologist people. I know you guys might think I'm being a little over the top. But I live near these people. They are dangerous.

Also, If any scientologist tried to lock me up in some "Hole" there would be a lot of news coverage about mass arsons to all the LA scientology centers. Oh yeah bodies would also be showing up in the news too. F scientology. Germany has it correct when they banned it for what it was. A disingenous brainwashing, moneymaking, fraudulent, cult.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 06:45 PM
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seems like a nightmare

how do they have the authority to imprison people.

Mental idiots.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 06:51 PM
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they don't it's 1000% illegal. But you are right these people have to be mental idiots to get themselves in that position to begin with. have none of these people got enough self respect to prevent this sorta crap from happening to them. in the case of the average scientologist i'd say no they don't have any self respect or they wouldn't be scientologists to begin with. Sorry if I sound a little biased but I've got to live next to these people. They are a problem.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 07:51 PM
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The source is John Brousseau, interviewed by the Village Voice. Yeah. Brousseau is some sort of Scientology insider, former driver for L. Ron Hubbard, worked in the Cruise household, worked in the Sea Org. prison camp RPF. Are they allegations? So far that's all they are.

The Tampa Bay Times also did a report on this in a 2009 investigation;
The Truth Rundown - High-ranking defectors tell of violence in Scientology's top ranks. This three-part series also reveals new information about the Lisa McPherson death case and details the degrading rituals that keep church staffers in line.
(tampabay.com)

At some point this whole nutty cult is going to implode.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 10:25 PM
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Since America rose to the occasion with the whole ChickFillA issue,maybe it's time for people to rise to the occasion and do something about this too. So many people seem to agree that this cult is out of control and perhaps dangerous.I personally don't and won't spend a dime to see a Cruise,Smith,or any other COS celebs art.
And nobody seems to persue or care that LRH was rumored to have assisted Jack Parsons in a failed babalyon working.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by PhoenixOD
So is this from a reputable news source or is it just a blog?

It's from the Village Voice. They are reputable, do good journalism and have existed for almost 60 years.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 10:49 PM
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They must recive their ....purification.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 10:51 PM
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I just don't see this religion having the momentum it would need to keep any sort of mainstream relevance. I think they have to blackmail and shame the high profile members that they have now, and I just don't see their influence lasting over time. I think Scientology will die with David Miscavaige. Still, not soon enough.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 10:52 PM
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David Koresh and Jim Jones are laughing in their graves.

This cult is too secretive, and dangerous.


S&F



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 10:56 PM
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Yea its a racket running behind the cover of a "church" of sorts. Organized crime really.



posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 01:32 AM
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If things like this were really true there would be search warrants and arrests, too bad it is probably not true. To me it seems more like that every highranking official who "falls out of favor" ends up in front of a reporter, not a hole.
edit on 3-8-2012 by Superhans because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 03:00 AM
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Originally posted by BASSPLYR
I've never heard anything good about scientologists. They frankly creep me out when i walk down hollywood blvd and they are out there trying to recruit people.

No joke. I was going to music school at MI which is behind one of their buildings on Hollywood Blvd, they got the message that I was not interested in their BS cult. Yeah L R Hubbard's crew are a creepy bunch.

When I was about 14-15 yrs I went to one of their open house recruiting meetings with my brother, who had a friend involved. I remember walking into a room on their little tour they gave us, some guy was doing a brain exercise with paper clips and erasers on his desk where he had to arrange the items as he perceived them in relation to the world(or some crap like that). Saw their brochure and the rates $$$$$ for the different levels of blissful glee that I could one day obtain. My one and only thought after that was,,,,,,get me the #$&% out of here.



posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 03:18 AM
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David Koresh and Jim Jones are laughing in their graves.



dont put koresh in the same sentence as jones. thats insulting



posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 03:20 AM
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The only prison Scientologists should be in is Federal Prison for torture, theft, wire fraud, tax fraud and about a million other violations of state and federal law.

It's passed religious cult and turned into a giant financial ponzi scheme.



posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 04:15 AM
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Originally posted by BASSPLYR
Well I've met a few scientologists in my day. (I live in LA) Without exception they were all completely brainwashed and of weak mental constitution to begin with.


Exploiting people of weak constitution is one method Scientology use to recruit new members. They've set up two organisations called Narconon and Criminon which are used to draw in drug addicts and criminals. Perfect fodder for Sceintology foot-soldiers used to enforce Hubbard's Fair Game policy or work 15 hours a day for $50 a week.

Criminals were recruited well before Criminon was officially established. Charles Manson was drawn to the cult's philosophies in the 60s. He would later E-Meter his "family" members on the Spahn Ranch prior to them setting off on the Tate/LaBianca murder rampage.



posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 04:20 AM
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The roof looks like it is caving in (first photo, building on left).

I've often wondered why a reporter doesn't infiltrate the ranks, but I hear people turn up dead.



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