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Originally posted by Mr Headshot
I think gay people should be able to get married, I love me some chick fila. Eat there all the time, at least once a week. More since this debacle began.
He didn't say anything hateful for bigoted, the company isn't discriminating or anything like that. This is the dumbest thing ever.
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
If I might make an observation here. You seem to be coming from a starting point which assumes something that is now proven false. The suggestion that his position has hurt the business seems pretty hard to support when the reports seem to keep coming from around the nation that they really packed them in today. Best Buy and Bed bath and Beyond are a block and a half or so from this one so I'm through there enough for my wife or myself. I've never seen it like that.
If you are intentionally eating at CFA more as a result to Dan Cathy's anti-gay statements, that makes you anti-gay yourself. You are no friend to the gay community. And the fact you value chicken over marriage equality definitely shows your so-called support isn't very strong whatsoever.
Originally posted by Mr Headshot
I think gay people should be able to get married, I love me some chick fila. Eat there all the time, at least once a week. More since this debacle began.
He didn't say anything hateful for bigoted, the company isn't discriminating or anything like that. This is the dumbest thing ever.
I agree with you to a certain extent, but what has to be said, first of all, gay rights is a very important issue and it's not just marriage that makes it a very important issue. That's number one. Number two, for better or worse, gay rights is the civil rights issue of our time. It is the main social issue in America and symbolizes very much so where America is at in regards to what people think about our culture, our government.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Yeah Chick-Fil-A is by far the best chicken fast food joint I have ever been to.
But I gotta say, I am really disturbed and disappointed.
I love the idea of everyone protesting the media's one-sided story and all of that but cmon folks.
One of the biggest protest events in recent history and it's all over one of the least important issues of our time?
I'd love to see protests like this against any random govt agency. But I won't hold my breath, because if the media doesn't suggest it than no one will do it.
And yes I'm implying this must be some sort of conspiracy between Chick-Fil-A, the LGBT, the media, and whoever the mind control experts are. My reasoning : There is no way this fast food chain could have anticipated or prepared to have on hand the inventory necessary for this.
I remember more than one instance where Chick-Fil-A had run out of a specific item, and that was years ago with "normal" customer patronage. I have no idea how they could have enough stock on hand to meet this type of exceptional demand.
They should have run out of chicken within a few hours, in my estimation.
Someone had to have tipped them off to pre-order a few weeks ago all of this extra inventory.
Of course I could be wrong and every location went out of inventory within a few hours, but I haven't heard any claims like that so far. If it has been claimed I apologize for missing it.
Is it possible that Chick-Fil-A conspired behind closed doors with the LGBT groups and the media to create this false-protest scenario? Seriously if people think that America's biggest problem is the finer details of unnecessary "govt marriage licences", we are so screwed it's not even funny.
Where are the protests against constant tax hikes? Against LEO's abuse of power? Against the wars or highly questionable international treaties?
No one protested the Patriot Act with this widespread fervor or determination.
That's why I find it really disappointing.edit on 2-8-2012 by muzzleflash because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by crazydaysandnights
I agree with you to a certain extent, but what has to be said, first of all, gay rights is a very important issue and it's not just marriage that makes it a very important issue. That's number one. Number two, for better or worse, gay rights is the civil rights issue of our time. It is the main social issue in America and symbolizes very much so where America is at in regards to what people think about our culture, our government.
There is no conspiracy here but there is attention seeking and grabbing on all fronts. Specifically from right-wingers and the media. The media is loving the CFA drama, and right-wingers are the one who are going out of their way to create a liberal vs conservative fight here.
Originally posted by BennyTheBlade
im not saying im for or against anything here, just wanted to say it makes me sick that people can get angry about what stance a bussines has on a topic and keep trying to preach tollerance yet all the while being intollerant to the right of such people to have an opinion and express it. We as americans are so hypicritical its discusting.
Whenever someone makes this statement, it invalidates every single thing they say. This is wrong, it will always be wrong. And the Ron Paulian arguments against government marriage fail as a result. Although I agree that marriages were previously personal/inter-familial contracts. That has zilch to do with today's marriages. The institution of marriage has fundamentally changed.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Marriage is a religious right, not a government granted privilege.
Originally posted by crazydaysandnights
Whenever someone makes this statement, it invalidates every single thing they say. This is wrong, it will always be wrong. And the Ron Paulian arguments against government marriage fail as a result. Although I agree that marriages were previously personal/inter-familial contracts. That has zilch to do with today's marriages. The institution of marriage has fundamentally changed.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Marriage is a religious right, not a government granted privilege.
Given the entire basis of your argument fails, that marriage is a religious union and not a governmental one, yes, everything you say before and after that becomes invalid. You may say particular individual things which are factually correct but the pieces of the puzzle don't fit.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Please indulge us and if you don't mind, elaborate further and explain exactly why "religious rights" are null and void?
Now, if you have a spare moment, articulate your point as to why "govt marriage licenses" are legitimate and not used to discriminate against specific groups today?
Shortly after noon Wednesday, hundreds of people lined up at Chick-fil-A in Liberty Fair Mall in Martinsville. The line wound around the center court area outside the restaurant and down one wing of the mall. There did not appear to be any protesters in the crowd.
Some people said they were there to support Cathy’s comments on marriage; others said they were there to support his right to express his opinion. Many said they were there to show support for both.
Metcalf, of Spencer, attended the event with his wife, Judy, and their grandson, Tyler Ford, 13, of Florida.
“People can have their own beliefs. They can believe what they want,” Ford said, explaining that right applies to everyone.
Steve Metcalf said his participation in the appreciation day was a statement.
“It says that anybody can have their own beliefs, but we don’t have to put up with somebody else being intolerant as they claim tolerance,” said Metcalf as he patiently waited near the back of the line in the mall. “I’m astounded. Happily astounded” at the show of support for Chick-fil-A, he added.
No, homophobes started it by going out of their way to attack the gay community. CFA is simply the company they're all rallying behind, but the conservative/religious fundamentalist vs gay/pro-gay fight has been raging long before this. Now it's on a national level.
Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
What I'd like to see is Jim Henson calling and end to the hostilities from both sides. This thing has blown up way out of proportion than it need to have.
Because basically, he started it.